What is the 1000 Years Millennium?

[Pipiripi]

The Thousand Years Millennium

The word 'Millennium' doesn't appear in the Bible, although it is used throughout the world to describe the 1000 year millennial reign after the SECOND coming of Christ which we find in Revelation 20:2-7.
( Read it)
So there is no mistaking that this time period is going to be a 1000 years. But when does it start? The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false and of course, this teaching of Jesus reigning on earth for 1000 years while the wicked continue to live is also false. So what is the truth? Let's find out.

STARTING POINT FOR THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM.
From here the friendly debate begin.

[Pipiripi]

WHAT WILL THE EARTH BE LIKE DURING THE 1000 YEARS?

The mainstream teaching out there contends that during the 1000 years after Jesus returns at the second coming, He will rule the earth, ON EARTH, and there will be peace amongst the nation's Jesus rules from Jerusalem. But there is a BIG problem with this teaching. Take a look at the following verses describing what the earth will be like after the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Isaiah 13:13 (read)
Isaiah 24:1
Jeremiah 4:23-26
Verse 27 of Jeremiah 4 says that the whole land is desolate, but God will not make a complete end. This matched with the truth the earth will be 'made new,' and we inhabit this 'earth made new' after the 1000 years. So God is not going to totally destroy this world. He is going to 'burn up' all things in it (2Peter 3:10) and renew it (2Peter 3:13).
Jeremiah 25:33. (Read)
The wicked are destroyed at Jesus second coming. The saints go to heaven with Jesus and as we can clearly see above, the earth will laid desolate for the 1000 years. You see, this is what the earth will be like during the thousand year millennium. It won't be a happy, peaceful place were Jesus reign the nations, it will be desolate, laid waste and empty! And to Satan it will be a 'bottomless pit" to which he is bound to for the thousand year.

WHAT WILL THE SAINTS DO DURING THE 1000 years?

We've discover that the lost are dead. And Satan is bound to a desolate, empty earth. What about the saved who has gone to heaven with Jesus. What will they doing? By the way, we know that the saved will be with Jesus in heaven and not on earth because Jesus said it Himself in the following verses:
John 14:1-3 (read)
We know that we spent eternity living in the new earth. So for us to be with Jesus in heaven, we would need to be there during the thousand year millennium, that is why Jesus said "I will come again and receive you unto Myself, that where I AM there ye may be." But what will we do while in heaven for the thousand years? Take a look at this Bible prophecy verses from the book of Revelation:
Rev.20:6 (read)
So we will be priests. But what is the purpose of is being priests during the thousand years? We will take part in the great judgement of the lost, and during this process, God will reveal to us why certain people who we knew and loved did not get into the heavenly kingdom, during this time, God will reveal to us more fully His judgment.
1Corinthians 6:3. This verse also confirms that we not only take part in the judgment of the lost. We will even take parts in judging the wicked angels.

My friends, brothers and sisters. Tomorrow if it is God will I will finished this very important issue for our salvation.

[showme]

The Thousand Years Millennium

The word 'Millennium' doesn't appear in the Bible, although it is used throughout the world to describe the 1000 year millennial reign after the SECOND coming of Christ which we find in Revelation 20:2-7.
( Read it)
So there is no mistaking that this time period is going to be a 1000 years. But when does it start? The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false and of course, this teaching of Jesus reigning on earth for 1000 years while the wicked continue to live is also false. So what is the truth? Let's find out.

STARTING POINT FOR THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM.
From here the friendly debate begin.

It starts when the "nations" have been smitten by the "sharp sword" coming from the mouth of the "Word of God", and he rules them with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:13-15). The nations survivors will abide the statutes of God, and keep the feast of Booths, which is to "worship the King, the LORD of Hosts", in "Jerusalem", or suffer no rain (Zechariah 14:16). During that period, "everyone who loves and practices lying" will remain outside the "gates" of the "city". (Rev 22:14-15).

[JehovahsWitness]

The wicked are destroyed at Jesus second coming. The saints go to heaven with Jesus and as we can clearly see above, the earth will laid desolate for the 1000 years. You see, this is what the earth will be like during the thousand year millennium. It won't be a happy, peaceful place were Jesus reign the nations, it will be desolate, laid waste and empty!

I'm sorry you are wrong. The earth will never be empty of human life, God created the earth for humans to live on and allowing it to empty, even for a period, will be a defeat of his purpose and that can never be (Compare Isaiah 55:11, Mat 6:9; Ps 104:5).

TO SUGGEST JESUS WILL RULE FOR A THOUSAND YEARS OVER AN EMPTY PLANET IS ABSURD

ISAIAH 9:6
For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the increase of his rulership And to peace, there will be no end

What do we learn from the above? That Jesus (Prince of Peace) will rule and it will be a period of peace. Ruling over an earth empty of everyone but satan is obviously not "peace".

ISAIAH 11: 1, 2; 9, 10
A twig will grow out of the stump of Jesse, And a sprout from his roots will bear fruit. And the spirit of Jehovah will settle upon him [...] They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters cover the sea. In that day the root of Jesse will stand up as a signal for the peoples.

What do we learn from the above? That when Jesus (the stump of Jesse) rules there will be people on the earth because the scriptures speak about the knowlede of God (Jehovah) filling the earth. (Obviously this is not referring to Satan or to animals) More than that, eveyone will live peacefully with no violence.



Will the planet ever be empty of human life?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 495#909495

When is the 1000 year millennium rule of Christ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 204#909204

[FWI]

[Replying to post 1 by Pipiripi]

What is the 1000 year millennium?

The first thing we must do to understand the first millennium of the Kingdom of God and the rulership of the Christ would be to reject the doctrine of heaven or hell. These two concepts (heaven/hell and the millennium) are contrary to each other. Hence, the millennium of the Christ is a time period where the vast majority of human beings (past, present and future) will be offered a place in the Kingdom of God on this earth. Those who have died will be resurrected (physical) upon this earth and will be joined with those who have survived Armageddon. They will be taught the true ways of God and given a certain period of time to accept or reject these ways. Those that reject this new way of existence will just cease to exist, never to be resurrected againThose who truly accepts the One True God as the source who determines what is best for them will be changed into a new non-physical being. See: Rev. 11:18.

When does it (the millennium) start?

Technically, this would occur when the present ruler of this world loses his authority (Rev. 11:15). This would be by decree of the One True God. Practically, this occurs after the marriage of the Christ (Rev. 19:6-8) and the Christ returns to this earth.

But, of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only (Matthew 24:36 NKJV Holman Bible Publishers).

However, we are not left without hints or signs of when this will occur. The point is that humans should be living their lives as if it will happen, when least expected (Matt. 24:37-42).

[Pipiripi]

The Thousand Years Millennium

The word 'Millennium' doesn't appear in the Bible, although it is used throughout the world to describe the 1000 year millennial reign after the SECOND coming of Christ which we find in Revelation 20:2-7.
( Read it)
So there is no mistaking that this time period is going to be a 1000 years. But when does it start? The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false and of course, this teaching of Jesus reigning on earth for 1000 years while the wicked continue to live is also false. So what is the truth? Let's find out.

STARTING POINT FOR THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM.
From here the friendly debate begin.

It starts when the "nations" have been smitten by the "sharp sword" coming from the mouth of the "Word of God", and he rules them with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:13-15). The nations survivors will abide the statutes of God, and keep the feast of Booths, which is to "worship the King, the LORD of Hosts", in "Jerusalem", or suffer no rain (Zechariah 14:16). During that period, "everyone who loves and practices lying" will remain outside the "gates" of the "city". (Rev 22:14-15).

When it begin there will be nothings in the world who is alive.

[Pipiripi]

The wicked are destroyed at Jesus second coming. The saints go to heaven with Jesus and as we can clearly see above, the earth will laid desolate for the 1000 years. You see, this is what the earth will be like during the thousand year millennium. It won't be a happy, peaceful place were Jesus reign the nations, it will be desolate, laid waste and empty!

I'm sorry you are wrong. The earth will never be empty of human life, God created the earth for humans to live on and allowing it to empty, even for a period, will be a defeat of his purpose and that can never be (Compare Isaiah 55:11, Mat 6:9; Ps 104:5).

TO SUGGEST JESUS WILL RULE FOR A THOUSAND YEARS OVER AN EMPTY PLANET IS ABSURD

ISAIAH 9:6
For a child has been born to us, A son has been given to us; And the rulership will rest on his shoulder. His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace. To the increase of his rulership And to peace, there will be no end

What do we learn from the above? That Jesus (Prince of Peace) will rule and it will be a period of peace. Ruling over an earth empty of everyone but satan is obviously not "peace".

ISAIAH 11: 1, 2; 9, 10
A twig will grow out of the stump of Jesse, And a sprout from his roots will bear fruit. And the spirit of Jehovah will settle upon him [...] They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah as the waters cover the sea. In that day the root of Jesse will stand up as a signal for the peoples.

What do we learn from the above? That when Jesus (the stump of Jesse) rules there will be people on the earth because the scriptures speak about the knowlede of God (Jehovah) filling the earth. (Obviously this is not referring to Satan or to animals) More than that, eveyone will live peacefully with no violence.



Will the planet ever be empty of human life?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 495#909495

When is the 1000 year millennium rule of Christ?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 204#909204

My friend the saints are in heaven, everything I wrote is in harmony with the scriptures this believing is closed for literal mind. Only if you let the Holy Spirit guide you, you can understand the scriptures. This is my belief and everyone who let the Holy Spirit quide them will see the THRUTH. My friend your believing show that Jesus come on earth 4 times or will be fighting.
1. As a baby.
2. As secret raptured.
3.Rule on earth 7 years tribulation.
4.Rule in heaven with the 144.000 and the saved on earth.

The BIBLE teached.
1. As a baby
2. As King of kings, and take the saves with Him in heaven.
3. For lived with us here on the EARTH with the Father God.
This is Biblical TRUTH.

[Pipiripi]

[Replying to post 1 by Pipiripi]

What is the 1000 year millennium?

The first thing we must do to understand the first millennium of the Kingdom of God and the rulership of the Christ would be to reject the doctrine of heaven or hell. These two concepts (heaven/hell and the millennium) are contrary to each other. Hence, the millennium of the Christ is a time period where the vast majority of human beings (past, present and future) will be offered a place in the Kingdom of God on this earth. Those who have died will be resurrected (physical) upon this earth and will be joined with those who have survived Armageddon. They will be taught the true ways of God and given a certain period of time to accept or reject these ways. Those that reject this new way of existence will just cease to exist, never to be resurrected againThose who truly accepts the One True God as the source who determines what is best for them will be changed into a new non-physical being. See: Rev. 11:18.

When does it (the millennium) start?

Technically, this would occur when the present ruler of this world loses his authority (Rev. 11:15). This would be by decree of the One True God. Practically, this occurs after the marriage of the Christ (Rev. 19:6-8) and the Christ returns to this earth.

But, of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only (Matthew 24:36 NKJV Holman Bible Publishers).

However, we are not left without hints or signs of when this will occur. The point is that humans should be living their lives as if it will happen, when least expected (Matt. 24:37-42).

When Jesus return there will be no lives anymore on earth. After the 1000 years the wicked will resurrected, and then fire come of heaven destroyed them. That is the second resurrection.

[Pipiripi]

AFTER THE MILLENNIUM

So at the end of the thousands year millennium, Satan will be released from his prison. Now remember what it meant by Satan is in prison? The fact that he was on earth alone, with no one to deceive or tempt. So for him to be released the wicked must be resurrected, ( This is the second resurrection) and Satan then will go forth to deceive the nation ( the lost) on more time.
Revelation 20:7-8. (Read)
This is Satan's last stance against Jesus. He gathered the lost nation's on the earth for one final battle.
Please note: One thing you will notice about the book of Revelation is that it is not in chronological order.
Revelation 21:2.
So the new Jerusalem descended down from heaven onto the earth. The saints are inside with Jesus.
Revelation 20:9-10 (read)
This is the final battle, Satan, with the lost nations who he deceived once more, go up to the new Jerusalem to attack it and try to take control. But as we know, God get the victory, and He reigns fire down from heaven and the wicked and Satan with his angels are destroyed by fire.

Many people believed that the 'camp' of the saints and the 'beloved city' in the above verses is earthy Jerusalem. But this is impossible. Remember what state the earth is in during the 1000 years? It is desolate. Everything is destroyed, including Jerusalem in Israel. So this 'beloved city' must be the new Jerusalem from heaven.
2Peter 3:13. (read)
Revelation 21:1-4 (read)
Satan, his evil angels and the lost are destroyed and are no more. Sin has been removed from the universe and the save lived forever with God and Jesus Christ our saviour on the new earth. Praise the Lord!

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 12 by Pipiripi]

Starting Point for the 1000 years Millennium

Revelation 20:6 (read it)

So first of all, we need to find the starting point of the thousand year millennium. Can we get a starting from the above verses? Yes! We can see from this verse that the FIRST RESURRECTION START THE THOUSAND YEAR MILLENNIUM.

Wh respect, verse 5 is not the starting point, verse 1 is.

The first resurrection is not the starting point, the binding of Satan is.

So the question to begin with is, just what is the binding of Satan?

Briefly, this is how I see it; scriptures will follow today or tomorrow.[later edit: sometime soon]



The binding of Satan is the taking away of his hitherto success in deceiving the world.

It is already a spiritual reality, having been brought about by the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

The devil is now on a chain, and Jesus holds the keys, and the authority to open and to shut, to bind and to loose.

The devil is not yet in chain my friend.

He is not in chains but on a chain, like a dog, free to devour but only within the area the chain allows.

[JehovahsWitness]

the save lived forever with God and Jesus Christ our saviour on the new earth.

So you believe God will leave heaven and spend eternity on the planet earth. Will the angels remain in heaven alone looking down at God on the earth?