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The Origin and Destiny of man

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True religion should clearly answer the question of the origin and destiny of man.

1. Where did we come from?

2 Why are we here?

3. What is the eternal destiny of man?

May we hear your clear knowledge of the above questions.
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Re: The Origin and Destiny of man

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[Replying to myth-one.com in post #48]
The names of believers are written into the Book of Life. All deceased whose names are written in the Book of Life will be resurrected to everlasting spiritual life at the Second Coming. At that same moment, believers who are alive on the earth will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet them in the air. All will then spend the 1000-year Millennium with Jesus.
How could Adam be a believer of Jesus as he already died before Jesus was born?

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Capbook wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 4:36 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #48]
The names of believers are written into the Book of Life. All deceased whose names are written in the Book of Life will be resurrected to everlasting spiritual life at the Second Coming. At that same moment, believers who are alive on the earth will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet them in the air. All will then spend the 1000-year Millennium with Jesus.
How could Adam be a believer of Jesus as he already died before Jesus was born?

The names of believers are written into the Book of Life. All deceased whose names are written in the Book of Life will be resurrected to everlasting spiritual life at the Second Coming. At that same moment, believers who are alive on the earth will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet them in the air.

So at this time everyone whose name is written in the Book of Life has been serviced -- all have received everlasting life.

They will then spend the 1000-year Millennium with Jesus.

Then, all deceased nonbelievers will be resurrected as humans after the 1,000 years in the second resurrection.

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Resurrected nonbelievers along with those nonbelievers living on the earth at the time of the second resurrection will then face judgment. Following their judgment, those whose names are written in the Book of Life gain everlasting life. Those whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire and suffer their second and everlasting second death.

But remember that the Book of Life was totally serviced following the first resurrection! That is, all deceased and living Christians were granted everlasting life at the Second Coming.

Checking the Book of Life again after judgment of nonbelievers implies that those being judged will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior and have their names written in the Book of Life during their judgment! Otherwise, there would be no reason to check the Book of Life again.

So during judgment is when large numbers of people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior -- including the billions who have never even heard the name Jesus.

Adam will have an opportunity to accept Jesus and gain everlasting life after his resurrection as a human at the second resurrection.

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Re: The Origin and Destiny of man

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:29 pm
John17_3 wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:21 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:01 am
Capbook wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:39 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #46]
If Adam accepts Jesus as his Savior, then Adam will gain everlasting life. If not, then Adam will suffer his second and everlasting death in the lake of fire.
The first Adam died before Jesus was born.
May I know how could Adam accepts Jesus as his Savior?

The names of believers are written into the Book of Life.
Adam rebelled and joined Satan, as the first human rebel.

Can you please provide the scripture you used to support this claim.

The Bible indicates that Eve rebelled before Adam:

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Genesis 3:6)

Eve was considered a human, right?
Yes, that is true, but the man is the one who the responsibility primarily rests. 1 Timothy 2:13, 14
However, that is not the issue.
The question was asked:
The first Adam died before Jesus was born.
May I know how could Adam accepts Jesus as his Savior?

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John17_3 wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:24 pm May I know how could Adam accepts Jesus as his Savior?[/b][/i][/color]
Sure, here it is again.

The names of believers are written into the Book of Life. All deceased believers whose names are written in the Book of Life will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming. At that same moment, believers who are alive on the earth will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet them in the air.

So at this time everyone whose name is written in the Book of Life has been serviced -- all have received everlasting life.

They will then spend the 1000-year Millennium with Jesus. After the Millennium, all deceased nonbelievers will be resurrected as humans in the second resurrection.

<======================================>

Resurrected human nonbelievers along with those nonbelievers living on the earth at the time of the second resurrection will then face judgment. Following their judgment, those whose names are written in the Book of Life gain everlasting life.

But remember that the Book of Life was totally serviced following the first resurrection! That is, all deceased and living Christians were granted everlasting life at that time.

Checking the Book of Life again after judgment of nonbelievers means that those being judged had an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior and have their names written into the Book of Life during their judgment!

Otherwise, there would be no reason to check the Book of Life again.

So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!

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[Replying to myth-one.com in post #54]
So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!
May I know where to find the verse that says the above quoted explanation?

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Re: The Origin and Destiny of man

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Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:18 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #54]
So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!
May I know where to find the verse that says the above quoted explanation?
I don't think myth does not understand the question.
I think the response is suggesting it is not scriptural, but his opinion. So, there is no scripture.

In post #49, I asked several times for scripture, but no response, so that usually is a demonstration that a claim is being made, for which no support can be given, and the comments can therefore be ignored.

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Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:18 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #54]
So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!
May I know where to find the verse that says the above quoted explanation?

It requires more than one verse.

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myth-one.com wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:38 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:18 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #54]
So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!
May I know where to find the verse that says the above quoted explanation?

It requires more than one verse.
May we know them?

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Capbook wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:55 am
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:38 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:18 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #54]
So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!
May I know where to find the verse that says the above quoted explanation?

It requires more than one verse.
May we know them?

Sure.

All humans who ever lived will be made alive again, or resurrected:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (I Corinthians 15:22)

All includes both believers and nonbelievers! However, all will not be resurrected at the same time. There will be an order to the resurrections:

But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:23)

So Jesus will be resurrected first, and that has already occurred. The resurrection which we presently await is the one at which those "that are Christ's" will be resurrected. Those "that are Christ's" refers to Christians. This resurrection for all Christians occurs at the Second Coming of Jesus to the earth, or "at his coming."

At that same moment at His coming, believers who are alive on the earth will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet them in the air.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)

Those whose names are in the Book of Life will have gained everlasting life.

After every human named in the Book of Life has been granted everlasting life, the Book of Life has been completely serviced.

Those granted everlasting life will then spend the 1000-year Millennium with Jesus. After the Millennium, all deceased nonbelievers will be resurrected as humans in the second resurrection.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (Revelation 20:4-5)


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Resurrected human nonbelievers along with those nonbelievers living on the earth at the time of the second resurrection will then face judgment:

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Revelation 20:12)

Following their judgment, those whose names are written in the Book of Life gain everlasting life.

But remember that the Book of Life was totally serviced following the first resurrection! That is, all deceased and living Christians were granted everlasting life at that time.

Checking the Book of Life again after judgment of nonbelievers means that those being judged had an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior and have their names written into the Book of Life during their judgment!

Otherwise, there would be no reason to check the Book of Life again!

So, during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!

Since billions of humans were either born before Jesus, or after Jesus but never even heard His name, that seems just and true:

Great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. (Revelation 15:3)

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myth-one.com wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:41 am
Capbook wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 5:55 am
myth-one.com wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 8:38 pm
Capbook wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:18 am [Replying to myth-one.com in post #54]
So during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!
May I know where to find the verse that says the above quoted explanation?

It requires more than one verse.
May we know them?

Sure.

All humans who ever lived will be made alive again, or resurrected:

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. (I Corinthians 15:22)

All includes both believers and nonbelievers! However, all will not be resurrected at the same time. There will be an order to the resurrections:

But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (I Corinthians 15:23)

So Jesus will be resurrected first, and that has already occurred. The resurrection which we presently await is the one at which those "that are Christ's" will be resurrected. Those "that are Christ's" refers to Christians. This resurrection for all Christians occurs at the Second Coming of Jesus to the earth, or "at his coming."

At that same moment at His coming, believers who are alive on the earth will be born again of the Spirit as spirits and meet them in the air.

Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (I Thessalonians 4:17)

Those whose names are in the Book of Life will have gained everlasting life.

After every human named in the Book of Life has been granted everlasting life, the Book of Life has been completely serviced.

Those granted everlasting life will then spend the 1000-year Millennium with Jesus. After the Millennium, all deceased nonbelievers will be resurrected as humans in the second resurrection.

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. (Revelation 20:4-5)


<======================================>

Resurrected human nonbelievers along with those nonbelievers living on the earth at the time of the second resurrection will then face judgment:

And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. (Revelation 20:12)

Following their judgment, those whose names are written in the Book of Life gain everlasting life.

But remember that the Book of Life was totally serviced following the first resurrection! That is, all deceased and living Christians were granted everlasting life at that time.

Checking the Book of Life again after judgment of nonbelievers means that those being judged had an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior and have their names written into the Book of Life during their judgment!

Otherwise, there would be no reason to check the Book of Life again!

So, during judgment is when Adam and billions of other people will have an opportunity to accept Jesus as their Savior!

Since billions of humans were either born before Jesus, or after Jesus but never even heard His name, that seems just and true:

Great and marvelous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints. (Revelation 15:3)
You may have forgotten one scripture. Mark 3:29
But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of eternal sin.”

Whoever has commited this sin, are eternally dead, and will not be resurrected. Job 11:20; Proverbs 11:7Job 11:20; Proverbs 11:7; Hebrews 6:6
Do you agree?

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