The Gospel of Jesus vs the Gospel of Jehovah

[Johan]

Depending on who you "think" the Living God is you have a "Gospel" from Him. And it is a huge problem to many.

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So who is He? Jesus or Jehovah/Yahweh? There can not be 2 Gods. One is a liar. So let us see what Jesus says about "His Gospel". And let us see what Jehovah says about "His Gospel".

A "contest" between the "2 Gods"? Sure. The Living God does not fear it. In fact He Loves it.

Let the Fire Fall! Because the Real God answers in "Fire" and is not scared to be "challenged". In Fact the "challenge belongs to Him. Because the Victory too.

1 Kings 18: 21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the Lord be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.*n5
22 Then said Elijah unto the people, I, even I only, remain a prophet of the Lord; but Baal’s prophets are four hundred and fifty men.
23 Let them therefore give us two bullocks; and let them choose one bullock for themselves, and cut it in pieces, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under: and I will dress the other bullock, and lay it on wood, and put no fire under:
24 And call ye on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the Lord: and the God that answereth by fire, let him be God. And all the people answered and said, It is well spoken.*n6
25 And Elijah said unto the prophets of Baal, Choose you one bullock for yourselves, and dress it first; for ye are many; and call on the name of your gods, but put no fire under.
26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.*n7*n8*n9
27 And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.*n10*n11*n12
28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.*n13
29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.*n14*n15

30 And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me.

So what is the Gospel of Jesus? And what is the Gospel of Jehovah?

[tam]

Peace to you all,

Depending on who you "think" the Living God is you have a "Gospel" from Him. And it is a huge problem to many.

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The true Christ and the true God do not have different gospels. Nor is there any challenge between them. The Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father. The Son subjects Himself to His Father out of love, and out of love the Father has also put the Son in charge of all His (the Father's) belongings, and given the Son all authority in heaven and on earth.

So who is He? Jesus or Jehovah/Yahweh?

Who is the Living God?

The MOST Holy One = the Father, whose name is JAH. He is the Living God. He has a Living Image (and Living Word) - His Son and Chosen One, Jaheshua, the Holy One of God.

There can not be 2 Gods. One is a liar.

There is one ALMIGHTY God - the MOST Holy One who is the Father, the Creator, and whose name is JAH. He has a Son, His heir, who is the HOLY One of God. The Son is the the Truth and the Living Image of the Living God.

Neither of them is a liar!

We have even been given an example in the temple as a physical example to help us grasp the spiritual reality. The physical temple had a Holy Place and a MOST Holy Place. No one could come to the MOST Holy Place unless one came through the HOLY Place.

JUST as no one comes to the Father (the MOST Holy One) except through the Son (the Holy One)

So let us see what Jesus says about "His Gospel". And let us see what Jehovah says about "His Gospel".

There is only one gospel - aka - good news.

That good news (of the Kingdom) is Christ Jaheshua. Through Him, we may be reconciled to God, receive (eternal) life, have forgiveness of sins, and even become sons of our Father in heaven.



Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[OneJack]

Peace to you all,

Depending on who you "think" the Living God is you have a "Gospel" from Him. And it is a huge problem to many.

viewtopic.php?p=1178624#p1178624

The true Christ and the true God do not have different gospels. Nor is there any challenge between them. The Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father. The Son subjects Himself to His Father out of love, and out of love the Father has also put the Son in charge of all His (the Father's) belongings, and given the Son all authority in heaven and on earth.

So who is He? Jesus or Jehovah/Yahweh?

Who is the Living God?

The MOST Holy One = the Father, whose name is JAH. He is the Living God. He has a Living Image (and Living Word) - His Son and Chosen One, Jaheshua, the Holy One of God.

There can not be 2 Gods. One is a liar.

There is one ALMIGHTY God - the MOST Holy One who is the Father, the Creator, and whose name is JAH. He has a Son, His heir, who is the HOLY One of God. The Son is the the Truth and the Living Image of the Living God.

Neither of them is a liar!

We have even been given an example in the temple as a physical example to help us grasp the spiritual reality. The physical temple had a Holy Place and a MOST Holy Place. No one could come to the MOST Holy Place unless one came through the HOLY Place.

JUST as no one comes to the Father (the MOST Holy One) except through the Son (the Holy One)

So let us see what Jesus says about "His Gospel". And let us see what Jehovah says about "His Gospel".

There is only one gospel - aka - good news.

That good news (of the Kingdom) is Christ Jaheshua. Through Him, we may be reconciled to God, receive (eternal) life, have forgiveness of sins, and even become sons of our Father in heaven.



Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

What specific gospel of salvation did the voice teach you? Did the voice send you to preach?

[1213]

...One sure thing too is that those words are not Jesus.

Interesting that you think the words of Jesus are no in the Bible. Why do you think so?

[OneJack]

...One sure thing too is that those words are not Jesus.

Interesting that you think the words of Jesus are no in the Bible. Why do you think so?

What I mean to say is that those words written in the bible are not Jesus, or in short, the bible is not Jesus.

[Johan]

Did I agree?

You are welcome to show us where you "disagreed", Brother. I would love to have that link. Because I am sure I just read right over it and never saw it.

If you did not hear that gospel you claimed was from Jesus, there is nothing for me to agree or disagree with. For me, only Jesus matters the most of all and for all because He is the Savior of our souls from the fire and boiling water of the planet hell, which will be in place in due time.

That is admitting you never disagreed with the summary I gave in the picture about the "Gospel of Jesus" as is given by the denominations and organizations, Brother. And seems it is your gospel too. Jesus is saving us from His Hell when we work hard for him in building his churches where he enjoys being worshiped. And make followers for him to have more who worship him. And study his word and praying to him and pay his prophets to be wealthy in Mammon. All because we fear of his hell in heaven if we don't do it.

This is an excerpt from the gospel of the Lord Jesus that we heard and learned from Him,

Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

“Remember, eternal life and your salvation are in My hands. If you want to be saved, come and draw near to Me. If you want eternal life, come and call upon Me. Trust in Me, because if you don't, you will have no salvation and no eternal life. You will have nowhere to go but to calamity and suffering. But if you draw near to Me, you will attain nothing but peace – peace if you accept it, if you trust in Me, if you believe in Me with all your heart and all your love. Love Me with all your heart, and worship none other but Me, the one and only Lord.”

That is admitting you indeed believe with most of Christianity in a Jesus who threatens you with his hell He is going to punish you with if you don't work hard for Him as His slave, Brother. And of course pay his prophets big bucks for threatening you and enjoying your slavery. Seems like the "gospel of Lucifer", Brother?

[Johan]

There is only one gospel - aka - good news.

That good news (of the Kingdom) is Christ Jaheshua. Through Him, we may be reconciled to God, receive (eternal) life, have forgiveness of sins, and even become sons of our Father in heaven.



Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

You never said there is anything wrong with my pic in it being a summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" from the denominations and organizations. So you are in total agreement with it as the Real Gospel?

[OneJack]

You are welcome to show us where you "disagreed", Brother. I would love to have that link. Because I am sure I just read right over it and never saw it.

If you did not hear that gospel you claimed was from Jesus, there is nothing for me to agree or disagree with. For me, only Jesus matters the most of all and for all because He is the Savior of our souls from the fire and boiling water of the planet hell, which will be in place in due time.

That is admitting you never disagreed with the summary I gave in the picture about the "Gospel of Jesus" as is given by the denominations and organizations, Brother. And seems it is your gospel too. Jesus is saving us from His Hell when we work hard for him in building his churches where he enjoys being worshiped. And make followers for him to have more who worship him. And study his word and praying to him and pay his prophets to be wealthy in Mammon. All because we fear of his hell in heaven if we don't do it.

This is an excerpt from the gospel of the Lord Jesus that we heard and learned from Him,

Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

“Remember, eternal life and your salvation are in My hands. If you want to be saved, come and draw near to Me. If you want eternal life, come and call upon Me. Trust in Me, because if you don't, you will have no salvation and no eternal life. You will have nowhere to go but to calamity and suffering. But if you draw near to Me, you will attain nothing but peace – peace if you accept it, if you trust in Me, if you believe in Me with all your heart and all your love. Love Me with all your heart, and worship none other but Me, the one and only Lord.”

That is admitting you indeed believe with most of Christianity in a Jesus who threatens you with his hell He is going to punish you with if you don't work hard for Him as His slave, Brother. And of course pay his prophets big bucks for threatening you and enjoying your slavery. Seems like the "gospel of Lucifer", Brother?

You should have asked the Father first about the gospel I said we heard and learned from the Lord Jesus instead of an outright assumption that it seems like the gospel of Lucifer. Sorry, but it’s now obvious that you really do not know Jesus, even His words do not ring a bell in your mind. And I doubt too if you know Lucifer.

[tam]

Peace to you,

There is only one gospel - aka - good news.

That good news (of the Kingdom) is Christ Jaheshua. Through Him, we may be reconciled to God, receive (eternal) life, have forgiveness of sins, and even become sons of our Father in heaven.



Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

You never said there is anything wrong with my pic in it being a summary of the "Gospel of Jesus" from the denominations and organizations. So you are in total agreement with it as the Real Gospel?

I am not in agreement with it.

Hell as a place of eternal suffering does not exist.

That is something that men have conceived.

Not God, and not His Son.

Peace again to you.

[tam]

Peace to you,

Peace to you all,

Depending on who you "think" the Living God is you have a "Gospel" from Him. And it is a huge problem to many.

viewtopic.php?p=1178624#p1178624

The true Christ and the true God do not have different gospels. Nor is there any challenge between them. The Father loves the Son and the Son loves the Father. The Son subjects Himself to His Father out of love, and out of love the Father has also put the Son in charge of all His (the Father's) belongings, and given the Son all authority in heaven and on earth.

So who is He? Jesus or Jehovah/Yahweh?

Who is the Living God?

The MOST Holy One = the Father, whose name is JAH. He is the Living God. He has a Living Image (and Living Word) - His Son and Chosen One, Jaheshua, the Holy One of God.

There can not be 2 Gods. One is a liar.

There is one ALMIGHTY God - the MOST Holy One who is the Father, the Creator, and whose name is JAH. He has a Son, His heir, who is the HOLY One of God. The Son is the the Truth and the Living Image of the Living God.

Neither of them is a liar!

We have even been given an example in the temple as a physical example to help us grasp the spiritual reality. The physical temple had a Holy Place and a MOST Holy Place. No one could come to the MOST Holy Place unless one came through the HOLY Place.

JUST as no one comes to the Father (the MOST Holy One) except through the Son (the Holy One)

So let us see what Jesus says about "His Gospel". And let us see what Jehovah says about "His Gospel".

There is only one gospel - aka - good news.

That good news (of the Kingdom) is Christ Jaheshua. Through Him, we may be reconciled to God, receive (eternal) life, have forgiveness of sins, and even become sons of our Father in heaven.



Peace again to you all,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

What specific gospel of salvation did the voice teach you?

I believe I said it:

There is only one gospel - aka - good news.

That good news (of the Kingdom) is Christ Jaheshua. Through Him, we may be reconciled to God, receive (eternal) life, have forgiveness of sins, and even become sons of our Father in heaven.

Did you have a specific question about it?

Peace again to you.

[OneJack]

[Replying to tam in post #58]

Hell as a place of eternal suffering does not exist.

Will it not exist forever?

That is something that men have conceived.

I doubt, that’s not what we heard and learned from Jesus.

Not God, and not His Son.

What have you heard from the Father about hell?