What is the 1000 Years Millennium?

Pipiripi · Post by **Pipiripi** » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:07 am

The Thousand Years Millennium

The word 'Millennium' doesn't appear in the Bible, although it is used throughout the world to describe the 1000 year millennial reign after the SECOND coming of Christ which we find in Revelation 20:2-7.
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So there is no mistaking that this time period is going to be a 1000 years. But when does it start? The popular mainstream teaching is after the church is "rapture," the saints spent 7 years in heaven with Jesus while the great tribulation happens on earth. Then after the 7 years, they believe the church comes back to earth with Jesus where He will reign from Israel for a 1000 years. The rapture teaching is false. The seven years tribulation teaching is false and of course, this teaching of Jesus reigning on earth for 1000 years while the wicked continue to live is also false. So what is the truth? Let's find out.

STARTING POINT FOR THE 1000 YEAR MILLENNIUM.
From here the friendly debate begin.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:16 am

[Replying to post 59 by Pipiripi]

Read Romans 8:1-7 special verse 4 and 7.

Those are important verses in Paul's writings, about our spiritual death that still dogs us, but is now shared with, and overcome by, our new resurrection life in Christ by the Holy Spirit.

He begins to talk about this in chapter 5 and majors on it in chapters 6 and 8.

It is our spiritual resurrection, the "first resurrection" that the second death cannot hurt.

Pipiripi · Post by **Pipiripi** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:12 am

Checkpoint wrote:
Pipiripi wrote:
Checkpoint wrote:
Pipiripi wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 53 by Pipiripi]

I asked you

Are you saying you get that this binding of Satan so he is now on that chain, is a present, here and now, spiritual reality?

You answered

Yes, a spiritual chain. Do you remember that he has ask God permission for hurt Job? He can do nothing if God not allowed him. But it isn't just like we humans do.
Yes, but when Christ came the chain was shortened and became a kingdom reality, from the time of his ministry onwards.

It was and is directly related to the clash of kingdoms; Satan's and God's.
Yes sir/miss, You get it just were it belongs. The war has begin in heaven, and it end here when the 1000 years millennium is done. This time we will participate or on Jesus side or the devil. There's no other way.
The war in heaven was fought and won when Jesus was here. As a result he is bound to the earth, to this world and its system.

The war continues but God's people win because they have spiritual heavenly life that overcomes deception and death.

It's what Revelation 12 is all about.
Yes, you are completely right. There I will people to focused their mind in spiritual affect. Help others with your knowledge. We must help people's seeing the spiritual, of all what is happening now and in the future.

Look at this on: Literal mind seeing a war literary in Israel. Spiritual mind see spiritually a war against Satan and his angels. Do You see the difference?
Yes, I do see the difference.

But I also see the difference between us, you and I.

You see "the first resurrection" as literal and therefore yet future, whereas I see it as spiritual and therefore a present reality.

You see the "thousand years" as literally that specific number, whereas I see it as spiritual, an age that begins with the binding of Satan that occurred during the ministry of Christ, and remains a present reality.

D o you see the difference?

Yes, I get you. Try to understand me what I'm gonna to say. We known that the book of Revelation has many symbolic languishes, so there also literal things in there. If we see revaluation 12:1-17. You see some point there that the Bible interpreted itself. Let's see some example in Revelation 12.
1. Women -- Church
2. Dragon -- Satan
3. Stars -- Demons
4. Baby -- Jesus
This is how I follow the interpretation of the Bible. State me how you understand Revelation 12. And if you have time, I really wont you to see the debate between Jim Staley And Chris Rosebrough. It is long, but very interesting.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:10 pm

[Replying to post 62 by Pipiripi]

Yes, I get you. Try to understand me what I'm gonna to say. We known that the book of Revelation has many symbolic languishes, so there also literal things in there. If we see revaluation 12:1-17. You see some point there that the Bible interpreted itself. Let's see some example in Revelation 12.
1. Women -- Church
2. Dragon -- Satan
3. Stars -- Demons
4. Baby -- Jesus
This is how I follow the interpretation of the Bible. State me how you understand Revelation 12.

Most Christians, whether they have a literal or a spiritual position, understand those specifics as you do. That includes me.

My point is that Chapter 12 does not chronologically follow Chapter 11, and that Chapter 20 likewise does not chronologically follow Chapter 19.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:10 pm

[Replying to post 62 by Pipiripi]

And if you have time, I really wont you to see the debate between Jim Staley And Chris Rosebrough. It is long, but very interesting.

Thank you, but debates or long quotes or stories are not for me.

My concentration span has become much shorter than it used to be.

If you think readers may be interested, I suggest you post the link.

Pipiripi · Post by **Pipiripi** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:51 am

Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 62 by Pipiripi]

Yes, I get you. Try to understand me what I'm gonna to say. We known that the book of Revelation has many symbolic languishes, so there also literal things in there. If we see revaluation 12:1-17. You see some point there that the Bible interpreted itself. Let's see some example in Revelation 12.
1. Women -- Church
2. Dragon -- Satan
3. Stars -- Demons
4. Baby -- Jesus
This is how I follow the interpretation of the Bible. State me how you understand Revelation 12.
Most Christians, whether they have a literal or a spiritual position, understand those specifics as you do. That includes me.

My point is that Chapter 12 does not chronologically follow Chapter 11, and that Chapter 20 likewise does not chronologically follow Chapter 19.

It is exactly how you say it. That's why they we have to show the people's carefully how to interprets Bible Prophecy.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:03 pm

Pipiripi wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 62 by Pipiripi]

Yes, I get you. Try to understand me what I'm gonna to say. We known that the book of Revelation has many symbolic languishes, so there also literal things in there. If we see revaluation 12:1-17. You see some point there that the Bible interpreted itself. Let's see some example in Revelation 12.
1. Women -- Church
2. Dragon -- Satan
3. Stars -- Demons
4. Baby -- Jesus
This is how I follow the interpretation of the Bible. State me how you understand Revelation 12.
Most Christians, whether they have a literal or a spiritual position, understand those specifics as you do. That includes me.

My point is that Chapter 12 does not chronologically follow Chapter 11, and that Chapter 20 likewise does not chronologically follow Chapter 19.
It is exactly how you say it. That's why they we have to show the people's carefully how to interprets Bible Prophecy.

If only it was that simple.

Our problem is that we agree on Chapter 12 but disagree about Chapter 20.

Pipiripi · Post by **Pipiripi** » Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:42 pm

Checkpoint wrote:
Pipiripi wrote:
Checkpoint wrote: [Replying to post 62 by Pipiripi]

Yes, I get you. Try to understand me what I'm gonna to say. We known that the book of Revelation has many symbolic languishes, so there also literal things in there. If we see revaluation 12:1-17. You see some point there that the Bible interpreted itself. Let's see some example in Revelation 12.
1. Women -- Church
2. Dragon -- Satan
3. Stars -- Demons
4. Baby -- Jesus
This is how I follow the interpretation of the Bible. State me how you understand Revelation 12.
Most Christians, whether they have a literal or a spiritual position, understand those specifics as you do. That includes me.

My point is that Chapter 12 does not chronologically follow Chapter 11, and that Chapter 20 likewise does not chronologically follow Chapter 19.
It is exactly how you say it. That's why they we have to show the people's carefully how to interprets Bible Prophecy.
If only it was that simple.

Our problem is that we agree on Chapter 12 but disagree about Chapter 20.

I understand why you are not agree. Why? Because if the Bible interpreted itself and we follow only the Bible with an open mind, we will never can understand the words of God completely. I want you to read this carefully. It is not for you, only for you to see what happened if we don't let the Bible guide us completely.
2Peter 2:1-3. Focus on verse 3.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:49 am

[Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]

I understand why you are not agree. Why? Because if the Bible interpreted itself and we follow only the Bible with an open mind, we will never can understand the words of God completely.

We are travelers on a journey, and we walk by faith, not by sight.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:22 am

[Replying to post 65 by Pipiripi]

I want you to read this carefully. It is not for you, only for you to see what happened if we don't let the Bible guide us completely.
2Peter 2:1-3. Focus on verse 3.

That passage is not about that, it is about rebellion and arrogance and fleshly living and their judgment.

Checkpoint · Post by **Checkpoint** » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:15 am

[Replying to post 67 by Pipiripi]

You cited a passage for me to read and be instructed.

It got me thinking about that, and prompts me to ask you to read a passage and question you on it.

The passage s 2 Peter 3:3-13

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