. . . given power to tempt man, thus leading man into sin and eventually causing him to go to hell?
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Couldn't god have done it without Satan's help?
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Some "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
You says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
I answered that in my previous post. We use our power of reason to understand what will happen (Isaiah 1:18). Revelation 20:7-9. Verse 12 states that the risen dead will be judged according to their deeds, and they are written in the scroll of life. What would they be judged on? Their deeds, and where they stand with their obedience and love toward God, wouldn't you say? Who says what deeds are acceptable? They would have to side with God rather than go with the Devil who is let loose for awhile to mislead them.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 3:43 amYou says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
Yes, those who take part in the first resurrection are those names written in the book of life whom were judged according to their deeds. And reign with Christ a thousand years I believe in heaven in the new Jerusalem. After a thousand years Satan would deceived the nations(the rest of the wicked dead resurrected) to battle the saints and the new Jerusalem coming down from heaven but fire would devour them. Satan and others thrown into the lake of fire that would destroy them. There will no more bad influences from anything as they will be burned up.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:32 pmI answered that in my previous post. We use our power of reason to understand what will happen (Isaiah 1:18). Revelation 20:7-9. Verse 12 states that the risen dead will be judged according to their deeds, and they are written in the scroll of life. What would they be judged on? Their deeds, and where they stand with their obedience and love toward God, wouldn't you say? Who says what deeds are acceptable? They would have to side with God rather than go with the Devil who is let loose for awhile to mislead them.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 3:43 amYou says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
So who will take part in the 2nd resurrection? Will they also rule and where will they live?Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:00 amYes, those who take part in the first resurrection are those names written in the book of life whom were judged according to their deeds. And reign with Christ a thousand years I believe in heaven in the new Jerusalem.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:32 pmI answered that in my previous post. We use our power of reason to understand what will happen (Isaiah 1:18). Revelation 20:7-9. Verse 12 states that the risen dead will be judged according to their deeds, and they are written in the scroll of life. What would they be judged on? Their deeds, and where they stand with their obedience and love toward God, wouldn't you say? Who says what deeds are acceptable? They would have to side with God rather than go with the Devil who is let loose for awhile to mislead them.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 3:43 amYou says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
Every human who ever died, shall be resurrected or made alive again:
The wicked dead will take part in the second resurrection after the thousand years.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:06 amSo who will take part in the 2nd resurrection? Will they also rule and where will they live?Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:00 amYes, those who take part in the first resurrection are those names written in the book of life whom were judged according to their deeds. And reign with Christ a thousand years I believe in heaven in the new Jerusalem.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:32 pmI answered that in my previous post. We use our power of reason to understand what will happen (Isaiah 1:18). Revelation 20:7-9. Verse 12 states that the risen dead will be judged according to their deeds, and they are written in the scroll of life. What would they be judged on? Their deeds, and where they stand with their obedience and love toward God, wouldn't you say? Who says what deeds are acceptable? They would have to side with God rather than go with the Devil who is let loose for awhile to mislead them.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 3:43 amYou says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
Capbook wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:34 amThe wicked dead will take part in the second resurrection after the thousand years.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:06 amSo who will take part in the 2nd resurrection? Will they also rule and where will they live?Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:00 amYes, those who take part in the first resurrection are those names written in the book of life whom were judged according to their deeds. And reign with Christ a thousand years I believe in heaven in the new Jerusalem.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:32 pmI answered that in my previous post. We use our power of reason to understand what will happen (Isaiah 1:18). Revelation 20:7-9. Verse 12 states that the risen dead will be judged according to their deeds, and they are written in the scroll of life. What would they be judged on? Their deeds, and where they stand with their obedience and love toward God, wouldn't you say? Who says what deeds are acceptable? They would have to side with God rather than go with the Devil who is let loose for awhile to mislead them.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 3:43 amYou says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
And when the thousand years expired, Satan will deceived this resurrected wicked (nations) and compassed the saints and the holy city new Jerusalem coming down from heaven but fire (v9) and lake of fire (v10) will devour and destroy the wicked, devil and etc. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And no more bad influences. Then there will no more death, no more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain for the former things have passed away. (Rev 21:4)
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
KJV
Rev 20:7-10
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
KJV
Revelation 21:4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."(NKJV)
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:27 am
Will those take part in the 2nd resurrection also rule ? Where will they live?
No, they will not rule, as they will be devoured by fire (v.9) that is second death. (Rev 21:8)JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:27 amCapbook wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:34 amThe wicked dead will take part in the second resurrection after the thousand years.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:06 amSo who will take part in the 2nd resurrection? Will they also rule and where will they live?Capbook wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:00 amYes, those who take part in the first resurrection are those names written in the book of life whom were judged according to their deeds. And reign with Christ a thousand years I believe in heaven in the new Jerusalem.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2024 5:32 pmI answered that in my previous post. We use our power of reason to understand what will happen (Isaiah 1:18). Revelation 20:7-9. Verse 12 states that the risen dead will be judged according to their deeds, and they are written in the scroll of life. What would they be judged on? Their deeds, and where they stand with their obedience and love toward God, wouldn't you say? Who says what deeds are acceptable? They would have to side with God rather than go with the Devil who is let loose for awhile to mislead them.Capbook wrote: ↑Wed May 29, 2024 3:43 amYou says, "Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden)". May I know what final test they are to go through? And may I know what verse?onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 8:53 amSome "goats" will be destroyed at Armageddon, but the rest will go through the Great Tribulation and into the new world Paradise. Those that will reign with Christ will all ascend to be with Jesus before Armageddon. Resurrection of all of the dead will occur during the Millennial Reign and those that haven't heard about the good news will be taught then. Everyone who stands with Jesus after the Thousand Years are over and they go through one final test (similar to what Adam had to do in the Garden) will then have eternal life on Earth. They will "come to life," the real life (I Timothy 6:19) that God originally planned for humans to have.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 12:33 pmHere is what the Bible states:onewithhim wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2024 11:33 am
One must accept Jesus as Savior and stand for God's sovereignty over the Devil's. That is the final test for mankind. Then they "come to life"---come to eternal life---after the Thousand Years.
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)
Any human who believes in Jesus as their Savior will gain everlasting life. There is no "and" yadda, yadda ..., or "final test."
Those who believe will be resurrected to everlasting life at the Second Coming.
All who died not believing in Jesus will be resurrected as humans after the Thousand Years and be preached the good news of the Gospel and choose to accept or reject Jesus as their Savior at that time.
And when the thousand years expired, Satan will deceived this resurrected wicked (nations) and compassed the saints and the holy city new Jerusalem coming down from heaven but fire (v9) and lake of fire (v10) will devour and destroy the wicked, devil and etc. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And no more bad influences. Then there will no more death, no more tears, no more sorrow, no more pain for the former things have passed away. (Rev 21:4)
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.
KJV
Rev 20:7-10
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
KJV
Revelation 21:4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."(NKJV)
Will those take part in the 2nd resurrection also rule ? Where will they live?