Good news

[kjw47]

The coming of Gods kingdom is good news for all creation. A complete reversal of this satan ruled system of things. No more war, hatred, fear, pain. sickness, diseases, starvation, infirmities, no greed, cheating on mates, drug addiction, drunkeness, No mourning, outcries, even death will be no more( Rev 21:4) etc,etc= a cure all for what ails mortal existence. During Jesus 1000 year reign, satan is abyssed, the earth will be transformed into an Eden(paradise) a resurrection of dead loved ones who get an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will and get their names written in Gods book of life. Mortals made back to perfection, not aging like now. All created living things living in perfect harmony(Isaiah 11) But then satan gets loosed for a little while and all rebels(Gog from Magog( Rev 20:8) get rooted out, and death, Hades( grave) satan and his angels and Gog from Magog get destroyed in the lake of fire. Then Gods kingdom in full control forever, never again anything like this satan ruled system will occur. pure happiness, all motives of mortal hearts from love not profit seeking.
Gaining entrance into that kingdom has more value than all the wealth combined on earth. One must live to do Jesus' Fathers will now over their own will( Matt 7:21)
Like this-Matt 6:33--Therefore, keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his ( YHWH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)--Then one can accomplish this-John 4:22-24

Will you live for entrance into Gods kingdom?

[myth-one.com]

Revelation 16:13 is when the demon spirit of the "false prophet" (Paul), . . . .

Why do you identify Paul as the "false prophet"?

Many reasons. First of all, he taught the practice of lawlessness (Mt 7:22-23 Mt 13:41), such as the Law was nailed to a cross. Second of all he was a self-witnesser, which makes his witness untrue (John 5:31). Third of all he declared "he is in the wilderness", for which Yeshua said, "do not believe them" (Mt 24:26). Fourth of all, his name was changed from Saul to Paul, which means "little", and as the foremost sinner, his "little" would become "least", and that is what those in the kingdom called him, for he tried to annul even one of the least of the Law and the prophets (Mt 5:19). The fact that he lived and died in the generation of Judas Iscariot and tried to annul the covenant of circumcision (Zech 11:10), aligns him with the three shepherds who were to be annihilated in the same "month"/generation. The 3rd shepherd/staff being Peter, the "worthless shepherd" of Zech 11:16-17). The fact that Constantine, the 7th head of the beast of Rev 17, the "another" king of Daniel 7:24-25 & Rev 17:10 & Rev 13:11, who was deemed the "beast with two horns like a lamb" (Rev 13), the two horns/leaders being Peter and Paul, whereas Constantine built a basilica for each, and his Roman church was built on them both, and the combination was to "deceive" "those who dwell on the earth" (Rev 13). That the daughters of Babylon include the Roman church and her daughters. That should be a start.

Let's just look at your first reason as to why you identify Paul as the "False Prophet":

First of all, he taught the practice of lawlessness (Mt 7:22-23 Mt 13:41), such as the Law was nailed to a cross.

Under the first covenant between God and man, man had to remain without sin to gain everlasting life. That is, the wages of sin is death, where sin is the transgression of God's Law or commandments.

But under the New Testament Covenant after Jesus died on the cross after living a sinless human life, we are no longer under the law to gain everlasting life:

Romans 6:14
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

So "the Law was nailed to a cross" is a true statement. The law no longer has any relevance to our salvation. It was nailed to a cross and died.

I would not expect the "false prophet" to teach the truth as Paul did on this subject.

[kjw47]

You best read revelation Rev 16 mentions Armageddon occurring. Rev 19 is the results-- Satan gets captured and Abyssed at Armageddon--He isnt let loose for 1000 years, then at the end of Rev 20 the lake of fire event occurs.

In the lake of fire event, whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Aren't the names of all believers written in the Book of Life?

If so, then all whose names are not in the Book of Life are nonbelievers.

So the wages for our sins is being cast into {/quote]

the lake of fire.

At death the wages of sin are paid in full.

So you're saying that sinners and the righteous are treated the same. We can all do whatever we want during our first life with no consequences, as our first death pays the wages for our sins.

What's the point of that?

Those alive to see the trib and Armageddon come will not be resurrected if God kills them off then. The separating of the sheep and goats occurs during the trib. Truth has become abundant here in these last days. Its being rejected by 99%--they are choosing to reject it.
Those who can live righteous prior to death will most likely pass the final test when satan is loosed for a little while-The others will have to prove their faithfulness during that period. But its really a loving provision by God to do that for the unrighteous. Even some of those who lived righteous( OT) have never heard the name Jesus-they will learn many things to.

[kjw47]

The majority of the little flock lived in Jesus day and after. Few are on earth now.
Peter was a member of the little flock-he was married -that shows symbolism of Rev 14:4-- actually celibate of the false religions on earth it means.
There are 4 different Yeshuas being taught on earth. The bible speaks of the real one. So all believing in the other 3 have lost. Its not to difficult for one to see who the real one is. Because every true follower learns all he taught, applies all he taught. And the most important they believe what he says over the errors translated in that contradict him. Few on earth actually knows what he taught.

What Yeshua taught was that following the "false prophets" (Mt 7:13-23) that "practice lawlessness" leads to "destruction" and or "the furnace of fire", which is Har-Magedon (Mt 13:41-42). The "practice" of "lawlessness" is better known as following the false gospel of grace, whereas the law is nailed to a cross, whereas you can ignore the law and live forever, as first stated by the "serpent" in the garden (Genesis 3:4).

The lake of fire isnt Armageddon. Armageddon is spoke of at Rev 16, Rev 19 are the results-Then Jesus1000 year reign, satan abyssed, then loosed a little while to test the resurrected ones-Many follow him. all get destroyed in the lake of fire= the second death. Then Gods kingdom rules forever in everlasting peace.

The "furnace of fire" (Mt 13:30) is at the "end of the age", when the "day of the LORD", God's judgment, Har-Magedon, begins, when the tares/wicked, who have been protected, will be "gathered" "first" and thrown into the "furnace of fire". The millennium starts at the raising of the righteous, those who do not have the "mark of the beast", to rule 1000 years with Yeshua (Rev 20:4). Those who are thrown into the "lake of fire", are done so at the end of the millennium. The "furnace of fire", in which the "tares", "those who commit lawlessness" (Mt 13:40) are thrown in will weep and gnash their teeth (Mt 13:42). Those thrown into the "lake of fire", 1000 years later, will face an immediate second death, and there will be no weeping. The "furnace of fire" is not the "lake of fire". "God's kingdom", whereas David rules Judah and Ephraim in the land given to Jacob (Ez 36), lasts for 1000 years, and then the "white thrown judgment" occurs (Rev 20:12), whereas all will be of one mind and there will be no nations/Gentiles to rule over with a "rod of iron" (Rev 19:15). The resurrected at the beginning of the millennium will reign with "Christ" for 1000 years (Rev 20:4). They have already been tested before their deaths. Your story line seems a little confused. I am not sure if it is rooted in the JW bible, but you might want to try looking at another source bible.

You best read revelation Rev 16 mentions Armageddon occurring. Rev 19 is the results-- Satan gets captured and Abyssed at Armageddon--He isnt let loose for 1000 years, then at the end of Rev 20 the lake of fire event occurs.

Revelation 16:13 is when the demon spirit of the "false prophet" (Paul), along with the demon spirit of the devil, entices the nations/Gentiles to come against Jerusalem (Zech 14:1-2) at the "end of the age", which we are now in, whereas "He is near, right at the door" (Mt 24:33). This is the "end of the age" when the reapers/angels will gather out the "tares"/ "those who commit lawlessness" (Mt 13:39-42), those that follow the false gospel of grace, and "cast them into the furnace of fire", which is done 1000 years before the dead are raised, judged according to their deeds, and those not in the book of life, are thrown into the "lake of fire". Har-Magedon is simply the place where the nations/Gentiles are gathered (Rev 16:16). It is known as the valley of Megiddo, where the last battle waged there was when the British defeated the Ottomans (clay) mixed with the German Kaiser/Caesar (Rome/iron) (Daniel 2:45) in the years 1918 and tossed them out of the land of Judea to initially usher in the Zionist per the British Balfour Declaration. Har-Magedon is the time period when the cities of the nations/Gentiles fall (Rev 16:19), and "every island fled away"...."and huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, came down from heaven upon men" (Rev 16:19), and Babylon had to drink from the cup of God's wrath, or to say, those with the mark of the beast, the Gentile churches, daughters of Babylon, will have drink from the cup of God's anger (Rev 14:10), better known as a "furnace of fire", where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

That is absurd saying Paul is a demon prophet. Your teacher is a murderer of who ever listens to them. And you are in that boat as well. By saying that. Youcall Gods written word lies. Yet you or your teachers have 0 proof. You best pray to Jehovah to open your eyes.

[myth-one.com]

Those alive to see the trib and Armageddon come will not be resurrected if God kills them off then.

Nope. Every human who ever died will be resurrected:

Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

The separating of the sheep and goats occurs during the trib. Truth has become abundant here in these last days. Its being rejected by 99%--they are choosing to reject it.

Those who can live righteous prior to death will most likely pass the final test when satan is loosed for a little while-The others will have to prove their faithfulness during that period. But its really a loving provision by God to do that for the unrighteous. Even some of those who lived righteous( OT) have never heard the name Jesus-they will learn many things to.

Those whose names are written in the Book of Life will be born again of the Spirit as everlasting spiritual bodied beings.

Those whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire and quickly perish -- never to live again.

How's that for separating the sheep from the goats!

[kjw47]

Those alive to see the trib and Armageddon come will not be resurrected if God kills them off then.

Nope. Every human who ever died will be resurrected:

Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

The separating of the sheep and goats occurs during the trib. Truth has become abundant here in these last days. Its being rejected by 99%--they are choosing to reject it.

Those who can live righteous prior to death will most likely pass the final test when satan is loosed for a little while-The others will have to prove their faithfulness during that period. But its really a loving provision by God to do that for the unrighteous. Even some of those who lived righteous( OT) have never heard the name Jesus-they will learn many things to.

Those whose names are written in the Book of Life will be born again of the Spirit as everlasting spiritual bodied beings.

Those whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast into the lake of fire and quickly perish -- never to live again.

How's that for separating the sheep from the goats!

I showed you bible truth. Why does the scroll of life have to be opened after the resurrection then? Rev 20:12) Rev 20:8 says fire comes down out of heaven and destroys the unfaithful( Gog from magog) once satan is loosed for a little while.

[myth-one.com]

I showed you bible truth.

The Bible states that every human who ever died their first death will be resurrected:

Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

You said that humans who live during the trib and Armageddon will not be resurrected from their first death if God kills them off then.

Therefore, your statement contradicts the Biblical statement that every deceased human will be resurrected from their first appointed death.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #63]

All of the 144,000 are not dead. There are still a few thousand alive on Earth. No one knows the exact number.

The "earth is not harmed", via "the great day of wrath", until the 144,000 are sealed (Rev 6 & 7), and the sealed are all from the tribes of the sons of Israel/Jacob. As the "the day of the LORD", the day of judgment, is in abeyance, the 144,000 have yet to be all sealed for their protection. The dead do not need protection from the coming "wrath" of God, at the hands of the "four angels", therefore all 144,000 will be alive at the time of the "day of the LORD" (Rev 6 & 7). Rev 6 indicates that all 144,000 will be alive and sealed at the time of the wrath/judgment of God, which is contrary to what you indicate. You might want to rethink your stance.

You need to rethink your stance. The physical Israel was given up by Jehovah because they didn't accept His Son. He then turned to spiritual Israel, the Christian congregation. Peter wrote to the Christians in Galatia, Asia, etc., that they were now part of God's "holy nation." He said:

"YOU are 'a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for special possession'....For you were once not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not been shown mercy, but now you have received mercy." (I Peter 2:9,10)

Jesus himself said that the Kingdom would be given to "a nation producing its fruits".....it would be taken from natural Israel (and given to spiritual Israel---the Christian congregation.) (Matthew 21:43; see also Matthew 23:37,38) Paul wrote that "There is neither Jew nor Greek...for you are all one in union with Christ Jesus. Moreover, if you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham's offspring, heirs with reference to a promise." (Galatians 3:28,29)

Revelation 7:5-8 refers to a spiritual sealing of 144,000 from the earth. They are no longer natural Jews (though some of them are) as a group, but spiritual Jews, those that belong to Christ.

After having said that, I agree that all 144,000 will be in heaven and alive, with Christ, when Armageddon hits. They will all come with him to finally destroy this awful corrupt system of things and usher in Paradise on Earth.

[kjw47]

I showed you bible truth.

The Bible states that every human who ever died their first death will be resurrected:

Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

You said that humans who live during the trib and Armageddon will not be resurrected from their first death if God kills them off then.

Therefore, your statement contradicts the Biblical statement that every deceased human will be resurrected from their first appointed death.

We will see

[myth-one.com]

I showed you bible truth.

The Bible states that every human who ever died their first death will be resurrected:

Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

You said that humans who live during the trib and Armageddon will not be resurrected from their first death if God kills them off then.

Therefore, your statement contradicts the Biblical statement that every deceased human will be resurrected from their first appointed death.

We will see

We have already seen that your claim contradicts the Bible.

I guess we are waiting to see if Kjw47 or God got it right.

[onewithhim]

I showed you bible truth.

The Bible states that every human who ever died their first death will be resurrected:

Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

You said that humans who live during the trib and Armageddon will not be resurrected from their first death if God kills them off then.

Therefore, your statement contradicts the Biblical statement that every deceased human will be resurrected from their first appointed death.

We will see

The scripture means.....all die because of what Adam did, and those that will be made alive are alive because of what Christ has done. It doesn't mean that every person who has died will be resurrected.