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The Tongue wrote: the spirit who guides me
Who is the spirit who guides you and have you tested him to see whether he is from God?
Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
(1 John 4:1 ESV)
Master W.M.K.
Who is this person? My Master is Jesus Christ.
Does your teacher believe that Jesus was a man who became a god, or a GOD who became a man
I can't speak for any of my teachers but according to the Bible neither of these is true. Jesus was God and when he was incarnated he took on a human nature but kept his divine nature. He is both God and man, not a God who became a man or a man who became a God.
born of an immaculate conception
The immaculate conception is the belief that Mary was born of a virgin and therefore was without sin. But if she was without sin she would never have made this statement:
My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
(Luke 1:46-47 ESV)
You can find out more about the immaculate conception here:

http://www.gotquestions.org/immaculate-conception.html
the only begotten Son of an alien life form that pre-existed the creation of the cosmos?"
He was the only begotten Son of the creator of the cosmos.
Such a disciple as yourself should be able to answer this on your Master's behalf.
If you want to know what my Master says you can find out directly by reading the Bible.
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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theophilus40 wrote:
The Tongue wrote: the spirit who guides me
Who is the spirit who guides you and have you tested him to see whether he is from God?
Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
(1 John 4:1 ESV)
Master W.M.K.
Who is this person? My Master is Jesus Christ.
Does your teacher believe that Jesus was a man who became a god, or a GOD who became a man
I can't speak for any of my teachers but according to the Bible neither of these is true. Jesus was God and when he was incarnated he took on a human nature but kept his divine nature. He is both God and man, not a God who became a man or a man who became a God.
born of an immaculate conception
The immaculate conception is the belief that Mary was born of a virgin and therefore was without sin. But if she was without sin she would never have made this statement:
My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior
(Luke 1:46-47 ESV)
You can find out more about the immaculate conception here:

http://www.gotquestions.org/immaculate-conception.html
the only begotten Son of an alien life form that pre-existed the creation of the cosmos?"
He was the only begotten Son of the creator of the cosmos.
Such a disciple as yourself should be able to answer this on your Master's behalf.
If you want to know what my Master says you can find out directly by reading the Bible.
[theophilus40 wrote]........ Who is the spirit who guides you and have you tested him to see whether he is from God?

Who is the spirit who guides me? IT is the spirit of truth; and No, I refuse to put my guiding spirit to the test, but I have tested the spirit of those who claim to have the spirit of God, only to find that the spirit that the greater majority who claim to be christians have, is not the spirit that comes from God, but the spirit of the anti=Christ, who is the enemy of truth and Christ.

.........Do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. (1 John 4:1.)

Why didn’t you complete the words of John, which prove that people such as yourself who refuse to acknowledge that Jesus came as a human, born of the seed of Adam as are all human beings, do not have the spirit that comes from God, but are led by the spirit of the enemy of Christ and of the truth.

1st letter of John 4:1-3; “My dear friends, do not believe all who claim to have the spirit, (My words are spirit) but test them to find out if the spirit they have comes from God. For many false prophets have gone out everywhere. This is how you will be able to know if it is Gods spirit/word: anyone who acknowledges that Jesus came as a human being has the spirit who comes from God. But anyone who denies this about Jesus does not have the spirit from God. The spirit that he has is from the enemy of the anointed one, the Anti-christ etc.�

2nd letter of John verses 7-10;.“Many deceivers have gone out all over the world, people who do not acknowledge that Jesus came as a human being. Such a person is a deceiver and an enemy of Christ.�

You don’t have to go too far to find the den of the disciples of the anti-christ, who refuse to acknowledge that Jesus was the promised seed of Abraham and King David who are all of the seed of Adam. Those disciples of darkness who spread that great lie that the man Jesus was an eternal and immortal god, and that God has never been able to resurrect a descendant of Adam to eternal life, throughout the entire world, through their Radio and TV programs and their lying books, and refuse to acknowledge that He came as a human being, and that God who raised our brother Jesus who was of the seed of Adam, will raise all those who are united to him in the great and glorious androgynous body that come from mankind, in which new species, God's only begotten Son, will dwell on earth among mankind.

Now close your eyes slightly and hold your pen tightly
Then call for the spirit within to awake
For it’s He who I walk with, who, in you I would talk with
And here’s the request that to him I would make.
Arise! Let your light shine for now is the right time
To scatter the darkness and shine forth you’re Light
Release all your children held fast in the prison
Of those teachers of darkness, those Sons of the night…. The Tongue.

Quote by the Tongue concerning your earthly spiritual master W.M.K.

[theophilus40 wrote]........Who is this person? My Master is Jesus Christ.

No mate, the one that you labour so hard for, trying to promote his radio programs, etc, in post after post in this forum, and perhaps other forums as well, is Woodrow Michael Kroll, and not the man Jesus, who was the faithful and obedient servant to “WHO I AM� who chose the man Jesus from among his own people and sent him to speak in his name, and to say only that which he was commanded to say by our Lord God and Saviour, who is “The Son of Man� and the only begotten Son of God who inherited his Father's throne.

Act 3: 13; “The God of our ancestors, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, (WHO I AM) has given glory to his servant Jesus.�

1st Timothy 1:1; From Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by order of “GOD OUR SAVIOUR� and Christ “JESUS OUR HOPE.�

Deuteronomy 18: 18; YHVH=WHO I AM, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, says to Moses; "I will send them a prophet like you from among their own people; I will tell him what to say, and he will tell the people everything I command. He will speak in my name etc.

Peter confirms that Jesus was that man, when in reference to Jesus he says in Acts 3: 22; “For Moses said; "The Lord your God will send you a prophet, Just as he sent me, and he will be one of your own people, etc."

Did the people of his day believe that he was the Lord, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. The God of our ancestors? No, they did not, for on the day of his triumphant entry into Jerusalem, the people escorting him cried out, "Blessed is he, who comes in the name of the Lord." Verifying that they believed Jesus to be the one that God had prophesied that he would choose from among the Israelites, and send to the people to speak in his name.

John 5: 24; "Whoever hears my words, said Jesus, and believes in “HIM� who sent me, has eternal life.

To inherit eternal life we must believe in “The Son of Man� who revealed himself to us through his obedient earthly host body the man Jesus.

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn it; but that the world through him might be saved."

(15) That who so ever beleiveth in "HIM" (Who chose the man Jesus to speak in his name) should not perish, but have eternal life.

So we see that the one in who we must believe in order to inherit eternal life, is not Jesus, as he himself has stated, but “WHO I AM� the one who chose Jesus from among the people as his earthly mouth piece through who He could reveal to the world, his massage of salvation.

Acts 3:19; “Repent then and turn to God, (Not to Jesus, but to God) so that He (God) will forgive your sins. If you do, times of spiritual strength will come from the Lord, and He will send Jesus, who is the Messiah that he has already CHOSEN for you.

You will notice that I always use the holy scriptures to back up my statements, not like your earthly master and teachers who make the ridiculous claims, such as the child of Mary and her half brother Joseph the Levite from Cyprus, was born of immaculate conception, being conceived in the womb of some supposed virgin and sired by some alien life form that pre-existed the cosmos, which teachings are not to be found anywhere in the scriptures, but come from the mouths of those poor souls who have been deceived by the anti-christ and his bride and her daughter denominations, and who refuse to acknowledge that Jesus was born of the seed of Adam and that he had two human biological parents, as revealed in the scriptures, as do all human beings. Anything born of such parentage as a mortal virgin and an ancient alien, cannot in our wildest imaginations be classified as a “HUMAN BEING.�

1st Peter 1: 20; reveals that Jesus was Chosen by our God, before the creation of this period of universal activity and was revealed in these last days for your sake. Through Him (Jesus) you believe in God, who raised him from death and gave him glory; and so your faith and hope are fixed on God.

[theophilus40 wrote]........ I can't speak for any of my teachers but according to the Bible neither of these is true. Jesus was God and when he was incarnated he took on a human nature but kept his divine nature. He is both God and man, not a God who became a man or a man who became a God.

You’re living in fairy land mate. The only place in the bible where it is revealed that Our Lord God and saviour spiritually begat Jesus, is when he came up out of the baptismal waters and the spirit of our Lord God and saviour, “THE SON OF MAN� the MOST HIGH in the creation, descended on Jesus in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, “You are my beloved in whom I am pleased, ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee.

In Luke 3: 22; (In place of “Thou art my beloved son in who I am well pleased.�) The following authorities of the second, third, and fourth centuries read, “This day I have begotten thee,� vouched for by Codex D, and the most ancient copies of the old latin (a, b. c. ff.I), by Justin Martyr (AD 140), Clemens Alex, (AD. 190), Methodius (AD. 290), among the Greeks. And among the Latins, Lactaitius (AD 300), Hilary (AD) Juvencus (AD. 330), Faustus (AD. 400) and Augustine.

Or again in Hebrew 5: 7-10; where it is written: “In his life on earth Jesus made his prayers and requests with loud cries and tears to God who could save him from death. Because he was humble and devoted, God heard him. But even though he was “A� son of God, (Not God’s Son, or THE son of God, but A son of God, check it out in the of Strong’s Concordance, or The King James, Amplified, or The Revised Standard translations. all Israelites are sons of God according to God’s word, see Psalms 82: 6; ‘You are gods,’ I said; ‘all of you are sons of the Most High.’) he learned through suffering to be obedient, when he was made perfect he became the only source through whom salvation could be gained from our Lord God and saviour, who rose Jesus from death and will raise all they, who are united to him also.

Being made perfect through his obedience, Jesus could then be used as the host body through which our Lord and saviour “Who I Am,� could then revealed himself through the life, the miracles, and the words, that would be revealed through his obedient servant and earthy image, who did, nor spoke one word on his own authority other than that which he was commanded by the Lord our saviour.

Not that Jesus took upon himself the honour of being high priest, for we read in Hebrew 5: 5-10; that It was after he had been made perfect through suffering that Our Lord God and saviour, made him high priest in the order of Melchizedek, with these words, “You are my Son, THIS DAY I have become your Father.

So, we know when Jesus was begotten as the first of many brothers and sisters, who are to be born as the glorious androgynous body of the only begotten Son of God the Most High in the creation, “The Son of man� who are all born the son of God, not by blood, nor by the will of the flesh, nor by the will of man, but like our brother Jesus, who was born of the Spirit of our Lord God and saviour, “The Son of Man� which descended upon him in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, “You are my beloved in whom I am pleased, ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee. “

Jesus, was resurrected on the day after the first weekly Sabbath following Passover, which is the feast of first fruits.

Jesus was the physical enclosure of all the spirits of good people who had fallen asleep in righteousness after the paying the blood price for their inherited sin and any mistakes that had made, and who were separated from the unrighteous dead and gathered to the living evolving spirit within the bosom of Abraham.

Jesus, over whom death had absolutely no power as all that he was had died once and had been Judged and the righteous do not die twice.

Jesus our brother, was the first fruits to be harvested from the body of mankind, the first of many brothers and sisters who are to be transformed into the image of God’s Only begotten Son who is the sin offering that has been prepared for us. The first to be raised from the dead past of “The Son of Man,� the first to receive his share of the hidden Manna, the glorious body of brilliant and blinding light, in which, He, on the road to Damascus, answered Saul's question, "Who are you Lord?" with these words, "I am Jesus of Nazareth whom you persecute,"

And Jesus our brother, was given divine glory and now sits in the throne of our Father, and we the chosen ones who have born the image of the first Adam, shall also bear the IMAGE of Jesus, "The Second Adam," (in the eternal process of change/evolution, for mankind does not close the chapter in the book of evolution) a new creation of bodies of Glorious and blinding Light that is the new Temple of our Lord that is to replace God’s old tabernacle (Mankind) as the ruler on this earth of all creation.

First, "MAN" (man (�נוש� : 'enosh') in English, mortal human beings) was created a little lower than the angels, then he is crowned with glory and all creation is placed beneath his feet. All creation is placed beneath the feet of MAN (man (�נוש� : 'enosh) in English, mortal human beings) WHO IS CROWNED WITH GLORY, we have not yet seen this happen. But we have seen Jesus, the first born from the dead, who has won the victory and was given divine glory by our heavenly Father and saviour, and now sits in His heavenly throne of Godhead: and who, in Revelation 3: 21; invites those, who win the victory also, to sit with him in our Father’s throne of Godhead within the creation. And all creation Visible and invisible, which, according to Paul, includes even the angels, will bow at their feet.

[theophilus40 wrote]........ The immaculate conception is the belief that Mary was born of a virgin and therefore was without sin. But if she was without sin she would never have made this statement: My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior (Luke 1:46-47 ESV)

Correct, the Holy scriptures reveal that neither the man Jesus nor his mother Mary were born of some imaginary virgin birth.

We are almost at the close of the sixth day from the day in which Adam ate of the fruit of the forbidden tree and died in that first day at the age of 930, and soon comes the great tribulation, which is the war to end all wars, after which the Sabbath will dawn, and those whose graves were opened with the death of the one who was anointed by the MOST HIGH, will, like our Ancestral Father who was reborn on earth in the body of Jesus, will each chose for themselvse an earthly host body in which they of the body of Christ can be reborn on earth and take the thrones that have been prepared for them and rule as Kings in the “DAY OF THE LORD,� The Great Sabbath of one thousand years.

It is through his resurrect body, that He who lays his life down for us, knowing that he can take it up again, unlike the man Jesus who had to be risen from the grave by “WHO I AM,� will judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone, by raising that MAN from death.�

Act 17: 31, For He, (The Son of Man, “WHO I AM�) has fixed a day (The seventh period of one thousand years) in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising that MAN from death."

You may continue to follow and promote the lies of your earthly Master and teacher, who has been deceived by the enemy of Christ, who refuses to acknowledge that Jesus came as a human being born of the seed of Adam, but know now, that your Master is a liar and a favoured son of the father of all lies; or you may follow He who sent the man Jesus, who is the promised seed of Abraham of the seed of Adam, to speak in his name and has given him divine glory and eternal life.

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The Tongue wrote: The only place in the bible where it is revealed that Our Lord God and saviour spiritually begat Jesus, is when he came up out of the baptismal waters and the spirit of our Lord God and saviour, “THE SON OF MAN� the MOST HIGH in the creation, descended on Jesus in the form of a dove, as the heavenly voice was heard to say, “You are my beloved in whom I am pleased, ‘THIS DAY’ I have begotten thee.
That isn't what God said.
And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; and behold, a voice from heaven said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased.�
(Matthew 3:16-17 ESV)
And when he came up out of the water, immediately he saw the heavens being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.�
(Mark 1:10-11 ESV)
Now when all the people were baptized, and when Jesus also had been baptized and was praying, the heavens were opened, and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form, like a dove; and a voice came from heaven, “You are my beloved Son; with you I am well pleased.�
(Luke 3:21-22 ESV)
All three accounts of Jesus' baptism tell us that God declared him to be his son but he never said anything about having begotten him. That statement is first found is Psalm 2:7:
I will tell of the decree: The LORD said to me, “You are my Son; today I have begotten you".
In Acts 13:32-33 Paul explains what it means:
And we bring you the good news that what God promised to the fathers, this he has fulfilled to us their children by raising Jesus, as also it is written in the second Psalm, “You are my Son, today I have begotten you."
It was a prophecy of his resurrection, not his baptism.
Correct, the Holy scriptures reveal that neither the man Jesus nor his mother Mary were born of some imaginary virgin birth.
Wrong! The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin.
Now the birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. When his mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child from the Holy Spirit. And her husband Joseph, being a just man and unwilling to put her to shame, resolved to divorce her quietly. But as he considered these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not fear to take Mary as your wife, for that which is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins.� All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had spoken by the prophet:

“Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel� (which means, God with us).

When Joseph woke from sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded him: he took his wife, but knew her not until she had given birth to a son. And he called his name Jesus.
(Matthew 1:18-25 ESV)
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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In Luke 3: 22; In place of "Thou art my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased" the following authorities of the second, third, and fourth centuries read, "This Day I Have begotten thee," vouched for by Codex D, and the most ancient copies of the old Latin (a, b, c, ff. I), by Justin Martyr (AD 140), Clemens Alex (AD. 190), Methodius (AD. 290), among the Greeks. And among the Latins, Lactatius (AD. 300), Hilary (AD,) Juvencus (AD. 330), Faustus (AD, 400) and Augustine. All these oldest manuscripts were changed completely. They now read, "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased." Whereas the original variant was, "Thou art my Son. THIS DAY I have begotten thee."

Hebrew 5: 7-10; “In his life on earth Jesus made his prayers and requests with loud cries and tears to God who could save him from death. Because he was humble and devoted, God heard him. But even though he was "A" son of God, (Not God’s Son, or THE son of God, but A son of God, check it out in the Appendix of Strong’s Concordance, or The King James, Amplified, or The Revised Standard translations. all Israelites are sons of God according to God’s word, see Psalms 82: 6; ‘You are gods,’ I said; ‘all of you are sons of the Most High.’) he learned through suffering to be obedient, "WHEN HE WAS MADE PERFECT" he became the only source through whom salvation could be gained from our Lord God and saviour, who rose Jesus from death and will raise all they, who are united to him also.

Being made perfect through his obedience, Jesus could then be used as the host body through which our Lord and saviour “Who I Am,� could then reveal himself through the life, the miracles, and the words, that would be seen through his obedient servant and earthy image, who did, nor spoke one word on his own authority other than that which he was commanded by the Lord our saviour.

And it was after he had been made perfect through suffering, that our Lord God and saviour, declared him to be high priest after the order of Melchizedek.

Hebrew 5: 5; Reveals that Jesus did not take upon himself the honour of being high priest. Instead, after he he had been made perfect through suffering, God made him high priest in the order of Melchizedek with these words; "You are my Son, "This Day" I have begotten thee."

1st Peter 1: 20; Reveals that Jesus was Chosen by our Lord God and saviour, who is The “Son of Man,� the MOST HIGH in the creation from the previous world which was destroyed by water, before the creation of this world which is reserved up against the day of fire, when the heavens shall roll up as a scroll and the universal elements will become so excited they will burn up and the heavens and earth shall disappear, and he (Jesus) was revealed in these last days for your sake. Through Him (Jesus) you believe in God, who raised him from death and gave him glory; and so your faith and hope are fixed on God.

Genesis 5: 23; Enoch was 365 and had spent his life in fellowship with God when he disappeared because God had Taken him.

Hebrews 11: 5; “By faith Enoch was Translated (To change from one form to another) so that he should not experience death; and he was not found, because God had Translated him.

365, is the number of days in a calendar year. The Lamb of God who takes on the sins of the world is to be one year old. Enoch is the unblemished Lamb of God.

Sandalphon is an archangel in Jewish and Christian writings. Sandalphon figures prominently in the mystical literary traditions of Rabbinic Judaism and early Christianity, notably in the Midrash, Talmud, and Kabbalah.

Sandalphron and Metatron are post human angels, Metatron is the name that was given to Enoch after he had been translated from a body of corruptible matter into a glorious body of incorruptible light, and Sandalphron, who is erroneously thought by some to be Metatron’s twin, is in fact Elijah’s angelic name after he was carried up to stand before Enoch and was also transfigured.

Some of the earliest sources on Sandalphon refer to him as the prophet Elijah transfigured and elevated to angelic status.[1] Other sources (mainly from the midrashic period) describe him as the "twin brother" of Metatron, whose human origin as Enoch was similar to the human origin of Sandalphon.[2]

On the evening when the Passover lamb is eaten, the Jewish people would send the youngest and most innocent member of the family, to open the door and let Elijah their savior into their house.

The Book of Enoch the Prophet 37: 4; “Til the present day such wisdom has never been given by the Lord of spirits as I have received according o my insight, according to the good pleasure of the Lord of Spirits by whom the lot of eternal life has been given to me.

This is verified by your bible.

I understand, that even though the word of God reveals to you in Genesis 5: 23; that at the age of 365, Enoch was taken by God, and that Hebrew 11: 5; reveals to you that Enoch was translated so as to never experience death, and that this chosen one of God, plays no part whatsoever in your belief.

This Enoch, who ascended to the very ends of time, witnessed the ends of the universe, as was taught to Peter by our Lord. Enoch watched as the universal elements, burnt up and fall as massive columns of fire beyond all measure in height and depth into the Great Abyss/Black Hole of origin. Which Enoch described as the prison of all the stars and the host of Heaven, which included himself, who entered into the Logos, as the supreme personality to have evolved in that cycle of universal manifestation, before all descended through space and time to “THE� very beginning, before space and time had begun.

It was He, “The Light of Man� who in the beginning of this cycle of universal activity, cried out, “Let there be light,� as he observed the invisible pool of universal genetic information (The Logos) that been gathered over the eons of eternity, express itself, Not as the spoken word, but in the resurrection of the universal body in the which the supreme Personality of the Logos, which was the life and the Light of man, had evolved.

In his Books he speaks of his ascent to the ends of time: 39: 3-8; “And in those days a whirlwind carried me off the earth, and set me down at the ends of the heavens. And there I saw another vision, the dwelling place of the Holy, and the resting place of the righteous. Here mine eyes saw his dwelling with his angels, and their dwelling place with the holy. And they petitioned and interceded and prayed for the children of men. And righteousness flowed before them as water, and mercy like dew from the earth. Thus it is among them forever and ever.

And in that place mine eyes saw the Elect One of righteousness and of faith, and I saw his dwelling place beneath the wings of the Lord of Spirits, and righteousness shall prevail in his days, and the righteous and elect shall be without number before him forever and ever. And all the righteous and elect before him shall be as fiery lights, and their mouths shall be full of blessing. And their lips shall extol the name of the Lord of Spirits, and righteousness before him shall never fail.

There I wished to dwell, and my spirit longed for that dwelling place: and henceforth hath been my portion. For so it hath been established concerning me before the Lord of Spirits.--------------On that day Mine Elect One shall sit on the throne of glory and shall try their works, and their places of rest shall be innumerable, and their souls shall grow strong within them when they see Mine elect ones, and those who have called on my Glorious Name ( my addition I Am Who I Am).

And the Elect One shall in those days shall sit on My throne, (Enoch is the living ancestral spirit of all the descendants of the eight souls who were saved by the water, the Godhead to the post-flood body of man) and his mouth shall pour forth all the secrets of wisdom and counsel; for the Lord of Spirits hath given them to him and hath glorified him, etc.

Then I will cause Mine Elect One to dwell among them. And I will transform the heaven and make it an eternal blessing of Light, and I will transform the earth and make it a blessing: and I will cause Mine elect ones to dwell upon it: but the sinners and evil-doers shall not set foot thereon, for I have provided and satisfied with peace My righteous one.

Concerning the Elect one of righteousness, Enoch has this to say, “In him dwells the spirit of wisdom, and the spirit which gives insight, and the spirit of understanding and of might, and the spirits of those who have fallen asleep in righteousness.

These are the spirits of Good people who fell asleep in righteousness after paying the blood price for their inherited sin and any mistakes that they had made in life, and were separated from the unrighteous dead, and gathered to the evolving living spirit of Enoch within the bosom of Abraham, which body of righteous spirits, over whom death had no more power were reborn on earth as the man Jesus, whom Enoch had seen and chosen in his ascent to the beginning of time.

1st Peter 1: 20; He had been chosen by God before the creation of the world and was revealed in these last days for your sake. Through him you believe in God, who raised him from death and gave him Glory; and so your faith and hope are fixed on God.

The elect ones of righteousness were also chosen before the creation of the world, Daniel, Jeremiah, Paul, just to name three, who are mentioned, as having been chosen before they were even born.

With the death of the physical body of Jesus, the spirits who had fallen asleep in righteousness, and who, like Enoch were given the lot of eternal life, were released from death as their graves were opened and three days later they entered the Holy City and showed themselves as the risen Christ, and who now, in the spiritual existence, have been living as Our Father and our God lived, gathering to themselves the spirits of Good people who fall asleep in righteousness, after paying the blood price for their inherited sin and any mistakes that they made.

That righteous blood which has been collected by the 144,000 spirits over whom death has no power will be the ransom blood for the host body on earth that each of those 144000, who are the body of Christ, will choose, in which to be reborn on earth, as Enoch was reborn in the body of Jesus, who now sits in the throne of Godhead to the most high in the creation.

And They, the resurrected body of Jesus, over whom death has no power, will take the thrones that have been prepared for them and Judge the whole of creation, visible and invisible.

From the Book of Enoch the prophet 108: 11-13; “And now I will summons the spirits of the good who belong to the generation of light, and I will transform those who were born in darkness, who, in the flesh were not recompensed with such honour as their faithfulness deserved. And I will bring forth in shining light those who have loved My holy name (Who I Am,) and I will seat each one on the throne of his honour. And they shall be resplendent for times without number.�

The Book of Enoch the Prophet 105: 1-2; In those days the Lord bade them to summon and testify to the children of the earth concerning their wisdom: show it unto them; for ye are their guides, and a recompense over the whole earth. 2. For I and my Son will be united with them (The glorious Temples of light in which God our Father and his Lamb will dwell on earth among mankind.) forever in the paths of uprightness in their lives; and ye shall have peace, rejoice, ye children of uprightness. Amen.

Of course, people such as yourself who are obedient to the universal church of Constantine, and are afraid to go outside of the canon that she has formulated for you, reject the fact that the Holy scriptures reveal that Enoch was the cornerstone to who was gathered all the spirits of Good people who had fallen asleep in righteousness after paying the blood price for their inherited sin and any mistakes that they might have made in their own lives, over whom death had no more power, in the creation of the heavenly blueprint=simulacrum, which is the only begotten Son of God and the sin offering that is prepared for us.

In Jesus, who was the compilation of all the righteous spirits which had been gathered to the evolving spirit of Enoch in the bosom of Abraham, we saw the only begotten Son of God, who is “THE SON OF MAN� who is the spirit that is currently developing within the body of mankind, as he was 2000 years ago, in his evolution to become the great heavenly simulacrum, who is the sin offering that is prepared for us, who dies in the process of involution, by releasing, from the first to the last, the spirits of which he was created, and the Man Enoch (The chosen cornerstone) the first and the least in the glorious body of God’s only begotten son, was the first to be released, and was the spirit that filled the man Jesus, his chosen earthly host body.

“The Book of the Secrets of Enoch� 22: 8; The word’s of the only man, of who it is revealed in scripture, was taken by God while still alive, See Genesis 5: 24; where he was translated, (Changed from one form to another, while keeping the original essence of that from which the translation was made) see Hebrew 11: 5.

“And I fell prone and bowed down to the Lord, and the Lord with his lips said to me: ‘Have courage, Enoch, do not fear, arise and stand before my face into eternity.’

And the archistratiege Michael lifted me up, and led me before the Lord’s face.

And the Lord said to his servants tempting them: ‘Let Enoch stand before my face into eternity,’ and the glorious ones bowed down to the Lord, and said: ‘Let Enoch GO according to Thy word.’

And the Lord said to Michael: ‘Go take Enoch from out his earthly garments, and anoint him with my sweet ointment, and put him into the garments of my glory.’

And Michael did thus as the Lord told him. He anointed me, and dressed me, and the appearance of that ointment is more than the great light, and his ointment is like sweet dew, and its smell mild, shining like the suns rays, and I looked at myself, and was like one of his glorious ones.

And the Lord summoned one of his arch-angels by name Pravuil, whose knowledge was quicker in wisdom than the other arch-angels, who wrote all the deeds of the Lord; and the Lord said to Pravuil: ‘Bring out the books from my store-houses, and a reed of quick writing, and give it to Enoch, and deliver to him the choice and comforting books out of thy hand.

The Lord then commanded Enoch to write down the names of every man who would ever live and the position for each soul into all eternity, for all souls are prepared to eternity.

From the book of “The Secrets of Enoch.� After telling the escorting angels to return Enoch to earth for thirty days, in order to reveal his writing to his sons, an ancient angel colder than ice was called forward to touch Enoch, and ‘The Most High’ said to him, “Enoch, If thy face were not frozen here, no man on earth would be able to behold thee.�

After revealing all that he had seen to his children, which is contained in too many chapters to bother about here, in chapter 50, Enoch says to his children; “I have put every man’s work in writing and none born on earth can remain hidden nor his works remain concealed. I see all things.

Now therefore, my children, in patience and meekness spend the number of your days that you may inherit endless life, etc. In chapter 50: 2; Enoch says this to his pre-flood children, “You see how I wrote all the works of everyman, before his creation etc.�

The stone that the builders have rejected, has turned out to be the most important stone of all.

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[theophilus40 wrote]........ Wrong! The Bible clearly teaches that Jesus was born of a virgin.

Nope! You are wrong my dear friend, the virgin birth is not to found in the original unleavened bread which has come down to us from the heights of heaven. That false teaching was the yeast that has been added by the disciples of the Anti-Christ in his attempt to distort the pure taste of God’s word, and to swell it out of all proportion in order that it might be rejected by the searchers of the truth, people, whose god given logical brain could never and would never be able to accept such rubbish.

The original Hebrew, scriptures has been translated into many different languages, over the many, many centuries by later people who were unfamiliar with the Hebrew language, in which those books were originally written,.

Those erroneous translations of the origin Hebrew have been edited and still need to be edited by scholars whose knowledge of the original Hebrew is growing as more and more ancient inscriptions of the Hebrew are discovered.

The Good News Bible: Catholic Study Edition: Proverbs 30; 19; translates the Hebrew term “Almah� as woman. “And a man and a woman falling in love.�

The New Revised Standard bible: Proverbs 30: 19; likewise translats the Hebrew “ALMAH,� as “GIRL.� The way of a ship on the seas, as the way of a man with a girl

Even the KJV, which erroneously translates the Hebrew term “ALMAH� as “VIRGIN� , in Isaiah 7: 14; in proverbs 30: 19, correctly translates the word “ALMAH� as “MAID� “The way of a ship in the midst of the sea, as the way of a man with a maid.�

From the KJV 24: 13; Behold, I stand here by the well of water; and the “DAUGHTERS=banoth= daughters, descendants � of the men of the city come out to draw water. (14) And let it come to pass that the “DAMSEL=yaldah=lass,girl� to whom I shall say etc.

How many of those daughters of the men of city were virgins? We don’t know, because the sexual status of those girls is not being referred to.

Now let us skip from Genesis 24: 13; to verse 16; Where, in reference to Rebecca we read, “And the ‘DAMSEL=yaldah=girl’ was very fair to look upon, and was a virgin=bethulah= having never known a man sexually.

Here the Hebrew term “BETHULAH� is used, which, unlike the Hebrew “ALMAH� means “VIRGIN� and is used in every instance in the Old Testament, where a girl who has never had any sexual contact with a man is being referred to.

Isaiah 7: 14; Hebrew Translation: Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the “ALMAH� young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel.

Isaiah 7: 14; Erroneous KJV Translation: Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the “ALMAH� virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

The Greek word parthenos (πα�θένος) used in Matthew 1:23 ; is ambiguous but the Hebrew term “Almah� that is erroneously translated in some Christian bibles as “virgin� is absolute, and according to Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible, the Hebrew term “Almah,� carries the meaning, (Concealment---unmarried female.)

WAS MARY REALLY A VIRGIN?

Yes! Right up until the act by which she conceived her firstborn son Jesus, who was sired by Joseph ben Heli as recorded in Luke 3: 23; who is not to be confused with Joseph Ben Jacob, as recorded in Matthew 1; two different men completely..

Isaiah 7: 14; Jewish Translation: Therefore, the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign; behold, the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel.

Isaiah 7: 14; Erroneous KJV Translation: Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel.

The Greek word parthenos (πα�θένος) used in Matthew 1:23 ; is ambiguous but the Hebrew term “Almah� that is erroneously translated in some Christian bibles as “virgin� is absolute, and according to Young’s Analytical Concordance to the Bible, the Hebrew term “Almah,� carries the meaning, (Concealment---unmarried female.)

Go to “A Dictionary of Biblical Tradition in English Literature,� by David Jeffery.
There you will find written, “Many scholars consider the new Revised Standard Version of the King James translation, which is probably the most widely used version of the English bible today, and considered by most modern scholars to be to be the most accurate translation of the Old Testament. It follows the modern consensus in translating ‘Almah’ as ‘Young Woman’ in Isaiah 7: 14.

In 1973, an ecumenical edition of RSV was approved by both Protestant and Catholic hierarchies, called the common bible. As a matter of fact, I have in front of me, A New English Translation of the Bible, published in 1970 and approved by the council of churches in England, Scotland, Wales, the Irish council of churches, the London Society of Friends, and the Methodist and Presbyterian churches of England. And what do we read in Isaiah 7: 14; “A young Woman is with child, and she will bear a son.� I also have before me The Good News Bible, catholic Study Edition, with imprimatur by Archbishop John Whealon: and on turning to Isaiah 7: 14; and what do you know? It says here, “A young woman who is pregnant will have a son, etc.�

In translating the Hebrew words of the prophet Isaiah, that an “Almah� an “unmarried female� is with child and will bear a son,� into Greek, which unlike the Hebrew language, does not have a specific term for ‘virgin,’ the authors of the Septuagint and Matthew correctly used the Greek word ‘Parthenos,’ which carries a basic meaning of ‘girl,’ or unmarried youth, and denotes ‘virgin’ only by implication.

A more accurate rendering of the Greek “parthenos� is a person who does not have a regular sexual partner, a widow with a family of children, would be a “parthenos�.

In reference to Hanna who nursed the baby Jesus before Mary performed the ceremony of purification, it is said that Anna was a prophetess who earnestly hoped for the coming of the Messiah, she was an old woman of 84 and had been a widow for seven years, never remarrying, but remaining in her parthenia=unmarried and sexually chaste state, ect, She was a parthenos, but in no way whatsoever was she still a virgin.

To translate something from the Hebrew to the Greek, or from any language to another, one must not lose the essence of the original, and the original was, that “A young woman was with child.� Therefore, as the greater majority of churches now admit, that the words of Isaiah, which refer to a child that had been sired by Isaiah himself, to the prophetess, who may or may not have been married to Isaiah, was, “A young woman who is pregnant will have a son, etc.� Matthew 1: 23; should now read, “Now all this happened to make come true what the Lord had said through Isaiah, “A young woman who is pregnant will have a son, etc.� Because they all now admit that those were the words of Isaiah 7: 14.

The Septuagint was a translation of the Hebrew Old Testament into Greek, by Hebrews in Alexandria, one hundred to two hundred years before the days of Jesus, and they like Matthew, were forced to use the Greek term, "Parthenos" in translating the Hebrew "Almah" Because there was no other word in the Greek Language that they could use for maiden, or young girl, etc.

‘Parthenos,’ was often used in reference to non-virgins who had never been married. Homer uses it in reference to unmarried girls who were no longer virgins, and Homer was the standard textbook for learning Greek all throughout antiquity, so any writer of Greek, including Matthew, who translated Isaiah’s words, that (An unmarried woman would be with child etc) while being well aware of this words versatile and indefinite meaning; was in no way implying that Mary was a virgin.

For the Hebrew has a specific term for ‘virgin,’ “Bethulah� which word is used in every instance in the Old Testament where a woman who has never had sexual intercourse with a man is referred to, which is obviously not the case with the unmarried woman/Almah, who is mentioned in Isaiah 7:14.

In Pergamos, as one of the final stages in the quest for enlightenment, the initiated adept would participate in sex with the Temple Virgin/Parthenos.

"Parthenos" did not mean possessing an intact hymen. A parthenos was simply an unmarried woman, a woman who claimed ownership of herself.

There are of course some on this forum who will argue that Matthew meant "Virgin" when using the ambiguous Greek term "Parthenos, but this is their own personal erroneous opinion and can not be supported by any biblical evidence, and they, like yourself, are absolutely wrong.

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Week 2 of 3

Monday, January 14 It Is Impossible to Hide God's Wisdom

Tuesday, January 15 When Your Actions Come Back to Haunt You

Wednesday, January 16 When Your Match Is More than You Are, Part 1

Thursday, January 17 When Your Match Is More than You Are, Part 2

Friday, January 18 Our Evil Intent Is No Match for God's Goodness
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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theophilus40 wrote: Week 2 of 3

Monday, January 14 It Is Impossible to Hide God's Wisdom

Tuesday, January 15 When Your Actions Come Back to Haunt You

Wednesday, January 16 When Your Match Is More than You Are, Part 1

Thursday, January 17 When Your Match Is More than You Are, Part 2

Friday, January 18 Our Evil Intent Is No Match for God's Goodness
I see that you have tested the WORD OF GOD, and as it, (the word of our Lord God and saviour,) does not match up to the the words of your earthly teacher, "Woodrow Michael Kroll," You have decided to turn your back on the truth as revealed in the Holy Scriptures and continue to help the disciples of the Anti-Christ spread their lie throughout the entire earth.

If the truth had not been revealed to you, then you would not now, be living in sin. May the Lord have mercy on your soul.

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Week 3 of 3

Monday, January 21 When Good News Almost Kills You

Tuesday, January 22 It Doesn't Get Much Better than This

Wednesday, January 23 Shepherds in the Land of the Sun God

Thursday, January 24 Making Promises You Plan to Keep

Friday, January 25 When God Turns Evil to Good
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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In his final letter to Timothy and the early church, the apostle Paul sent a message of hope and courage for troubling times. It's a call to serve God faithfully and consistently. Join us as Dr. Kroll points out the value of a committed life, a disciplined life and the assurance that God's Word is unchanging, powerful enough to see us through the challenges of the future we face.

Monday, January 28 Encouraging Words During Troubling Times

Tuesday, January 29 The Inestimable Value of One Faithful Life

Wednesday, January 30 Make Your Life a Disciplined Life

Thursday, January 31 The Behaviors of End-time People

Friday, February 1 The Unsurpassing Importance of God's Word
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
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What makes it possible for you to enjoy salvation and life as a child of God? The Holy Spirit. Find out about the peace, understanding and security we receive when the Holy Spirit takes up residence in our lives.

Week 1 of 2

Monday, February 4 The Holy Spirit Regenerates You

Tuesday, February 5 The Holy Spirit Baptizes You

Wednesday, February 6 The Holy Spirit Indwells You

Thursday, February 7 The Holy Spirit Seals You, Part 1

Friday, February 8 The Holy Spirit Seals You, Part 2
His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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