This is a request for kingiyk, who has posted comments to this effect on another thread. I feel like I’ve already refuted his core arguments, but would still like to debate this more formally, in a proper H2H format.
The rules would be:
-A maximum of four rebuttals (kingiyk can provide the opening argument, with me providing the first rebuttal and so on). I will give him the first and last word.
-No ChatGPT usage. It’s okay to use AI to aggregate sources and clarify questions, but the responses must be self-written and self-reasoned.
-Standard mathematics (algebra, calculus, trigonometry, arithmetic, statistics, etc.) only. If you’re “inventing your own branch of math,†taking it to peer-reviewed journals is a better first step.
-No appeals to faith or hand-waving dismissals. Any argument presented in good faith must be addressed.
-A maximum of two weeks to respond.
Does the 12-hour clock and “triune math†prove the Christian god?
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Does the 12-hour clock and “triune math†prove the Christian god?
Post #1 Haven
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Post #4[Replying to kingiyk in post #3]
I’d prefer to limit it to four just to match the formal debate format.
I’d prefer to limit it to four just to match the formal debate format.
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Re: Does the 12-hour clock and “triune math†prove the Christian god?
Post #5Cool. I am ready to make my opening argument.Haven wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 3:06 pm [Replying to kingiyk in post #3]
I’d prefer to limit it to four just to match the formal debate format.
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Post #6 Haven
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Re: Does the 12-hour clock and “triune math†prove the Christian god?
Post #7I've added you two to the H2H group. You should be able to create the thread now.Haven wrote: ↑Thu Oct 09, 2025 6:03 pm [Replying to kingiyk in post #5]
Mods, will you start a thread in the H2H forum? Thanks!
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Post #8Thanks so much! And I’m working on my rebuttal to your opening argument, kingiyk. It should be up later this week. I’m not giving it short shrift, so it’s going to be thorough and pretty long (apologies).
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Post #9I have responded! I look forward to your rebuttal.
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Post #10I should have my rebuttal posted this weekend. I’m sorry for the delay - work got absolutely crazy this week!
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