Does life have meaning for an atheist?

[Wootah]

Yes, we do live as though the world was flat. If we do airline travel, we know we are going around a globe, But that's about the only time we realise it. But this is to reduce the Bible to the level of any other story or history book, real or false or a mix. There is no reason to put it anywhere but on the shelf with all the other books of myth. It talks about the condition of man, but we just understand it better now than the writers of the Bible, even if they hadn't ascribed it all to a god. Yes, science isn't settled by a long shot - nobody (but Theists misrepresenting it, yet again) says that it is, but the fact is that the more science has found out the more the gaps for god have shrunk. If you think that a 'longer shot' is going to validate a god (name your own) I think you are fooling yourself. And you may think that without the idea that a god made us as the pinnacle of creation,we don't value humans. Theists make that mistake all the time, just as they think life has no meaning unless a god imposes one. This is all a misconception that Theists can never understand until they deconvert.

Go on prove life has meaning?

[Wootah]

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

What would you accept as proof? I don't want to go off on irrelevant tangents here.

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I'll be reasonable, what would you accept as proof of Jesus is God?

[Miles]

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

What would you accept as proof? I don't want to go off on irrelevant tangents here.

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I'll be reasonable, what would you accept as proof of Jesus is God?

Ah ha, a little bit of tap dancing to distract the audience is it! In any case, because I asked first, you get to answer first; although, in as much as you wont tell us what you'd accept as proof I won't plan on responding to your Cincinnati Time Step and Shuffling Ball Change.


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[Wootah]

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

What would you accept as proof? I don't want to go off on irrelevant tangents here.

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I'll be reasonable, what would you accept as proof of Jesus is God?

Ah ha, a little bit of tap dancing to distract the audience is it! In any case, because I asked first, you get to answer first; although, in as much as you wont tell us what you'd accept as proof I won't plan on responding to your Cincinnati Time Step and Shuffling Ball Change.


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Anything scientific?

[TRANSPONDER]

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

What would you accept as proof? I don't want to go off on irrelevant tangents here.

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I'll be reasonable, what would you accept as proof of Jesus is God?

I'm happy to answer that one (even though it is sorta shifting the burden of proof), because I've answered the same sort of thing before. It is too late to even ask that question because there is too much 'proof' for me that Jesus was not god. Assuming there was such a person (which I suspect there was). There is too much evidence for me (though maybe not for others) that Paul got the idea of a resurrected Jesus from the disciples and it was not a god but a man -messiah, but Paul's Greek Christian followers thought they had to make a god of Jesus and so they did. The spirit of the son of man (Adam - Paul is pretty clear about that) as the Messiah entered the man Jesus at the baptism, but by the time the gospels came to be written (by Greek Christians) it was the spirit of God, nothing less, and the Jesus of the gospels was evolved from Mark's meat puppet pushed around by the Spirit to the almost transparent and near divine man Jesus with God in person shining though his translucent skin. The add -on nativities to make Jesus divine from birth and not from the baptism are demonstrably concocted and the add ons of the resurrection accounts to make a spirit that left Jesus on the cross (that's pretty clear, too) into one that resurrected in the old body or if a new incorruptible one, it had the crucifixion -marks added for identification, are also demonstrably concocted to turn a spiritual resurrection -claim into a solid body one with witnesses, telling destructively different stories.

I know the apologists will explain away (at least to their own satisfaction) all and any of that, but the fact remains that I see no way that you can convince me that there is any evidence you can get from the Bible that Jesus was God. It is as late for that as to ask what would convince me that Genesis is true, evolution is false and the earth is flat. It's a pointless question to ask.

[JoeyKnothead]

I was hoping for proof not random ramblings.

Prove life has meaning for an atheist please.

Because a god I can't show exists says it does.

Happy now?

It's quite sickening to have a theist question if an atheist's life has meaning or purpose.

It's also quite obvious here our theist will not accept that atheists lives can be full of meaning and purpose because his holy text declares us void of possible good.

Insert all manner of cussing, organized and random, with as much vitriol as our theist allows for atheists to have.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #15]

Appeal to emotion. Any answer? Scientific or proof?

[JoeyKnothead]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #15]

Appeal to emotion. Any answer? Scientific or proof?

Says the guy who promotes a book full of libels and slanders against any who disagree.

That you can't understand that "meaning" is a subjective term is your problem, borne of your desire to nullify the lives of those who don't buy your fairy tale religion.

[TRANSPONDER]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #15]

Appeal to emotion. Any answer? Scientific or proof?

Try this one - just as a Believer expects us to accept that He is in communication with God just because he says so, We can expect you to accept that life has meanings for us, even without them being imposed on us by a cosmic dictator. If we are supposed to accept the Theist claims of how they feel, why aren't ours equally valid? After all a denialist can deny anything no matter how well validated and claim they won. Appeal to emotion may not be perfect but your appeal to denial is much worse.

[Wootah]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #15]

Appeal to emotion. Any answer? Scientific or proof?

Try this one - just as a Believer expects us to accept that He is in communication with God just because he says so, We can expect you to accept that life has meanings for us, even without them being imposed on us by a cosmic dictator. If we are supposed to accept the Theist claims of how they feel, why aren't ours equally valid? After all a denialist can deny anything no matter how well validated and claim they won. Appeal to emotion may not be perfect but your appeal to denial is much worse.

I accept. So God exists?

[Miles]

[Replying to JoeyKnothead in post #15]

Appeal to emotion. Any answer? Scientific or proof?

Try this one - just as a Believer expects us to accept that He is in communication with God just because he says so, We can expect you to accept that life has meanings for us, even without them being imposed on us by a cosmic dictator. If we are supposed to accept the Theist claims of how they feel, why aren't ours equally valid? After all a denialist can deny anything no matter how well validated and claim they won. Appeal to emotion may not be perfect but your appeal to denial is much worse.

I accept. So God exists?

SEE! I knew it. Even you don't know.

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