How to Define Characteristics of "uncaused"

jgh7 · Post by **jgh7** » Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:20 pm

In some argument for God, they say that everything in the universe that exists has a cause, and that this goes back and back until you get to the original "uncaused" entity that is God. They then go on to give their arguments as to why God is qualified to be "uncaused" unlike everything else.

What are the characteristics necessary to be uncaused? Are these characteristics exclusive to God only? Are they exclusive to the Christian God only? Are they exclusive to some living self-aware entity only?

William · Post by **William** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:08 pm

[Replying to post 99 by Willum]

Atoms are eternal, nothing needs to create them.

Is that a fact Jack?

What science have you to support this as being the case?

How does this amount to a paradox?

If atoms are eternal as you claim, then why does that mean GOD does not exist? How do you know for example that atoms are not evidence of the mind of GOD?

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:26 pm

[Replying to post 101 by William]

That is the fact. Atoms are immortal only changing when acted upon. I know youve read my posts on the subject; what parts didnt you get?

William · Post by **William** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:44 pm

[Replying to post 102 by Willum]

If atoms are eternal as you claim, then why does that mean GOD does not exist? How do you know for example that atoms are not evidence of the mind of GOD?

Willum · Post by **Willum** » Sun Mar 18, 2018 5:40 pm

[Replying to post 103 by William]

Well, it does mean a all powerful creator is unnecessary, if he isnt all powerful, then a great deal of the rest of the myth is impossible, and the discussion continues...