Christianity's Biggest Problem Yet?

[POI]

Below is a 20 minute video. For the ones who opt not to watch, I'll start with the following question? (Which may then lead to many others, as this is a fairly new concept of thought for me)....

Why does YHWH allow for so much animal suffering? Before you Christians answer, I trust you are already aware of this guy's counter points?

[POI]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

Then why select Christianity, as opposed to the many other religions out in circulation? Couldn't your methodology also justify other opposing religious doctrines?

[William]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

Then why select Christianity, as opposed to the many other religions out in circulation? Couldn't your methodology also justify other opposing religious doctrines?

If I had of been brought up in a different culture, I would likely call myself whatever the cultures main religion calls itself, if anyone asked.

Someone asked - I gave my answer.

[POI]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

Then why select Christianity, as opposed to the many other religions out in circulation? Couldn't your methodology also justify other opposing religious doctrines?

If I had of been brought up in a different culture, I would likely call myself whatever the cultures main religion calls itself, if anyone asked.

Someone asked - I gave my answer.

Thank you for answering the first question. Now what about the second...

Couldn't your methodology also justify other opposing religious doctrines?

[William]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

Then why select Christianity, as opposed to the many other religions out in circulation? Couldn't your methodology also justify other opposing religious doctrines?

If I had of been brought up in a different culture, I would likely call myself whatever the cultures main religion calls itself, if anyone asked.

Someone asked - I gave my answer.

Thank you for answering the first question. Now what about the second...

Couldn't your methodology also justify other opposing religious doctrines?

It would depend upon what these other opposing religious doctrines were.

You do not say.

[Tcg]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

An atheist is one who lacks belief in god/s. That would not preclude one from being a Christian. A Christian is one who follows what they believe to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This wouldn't require a belief in god/gods. The first three Quakers I ever met were all atheists. Two of those also considered themselves Christians.


Tcg

[William]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

An atheist is one who lacks belief in god/s. That would not preclude one from being a Christian. A Christian is one who follows what they believe to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This wouldn't require a belief in god/gods. The first three Quakers I ever met were all atheists. Two of those also considered themselves Christians.


Tcg

Then the ones calling themselves Christians were following the Prime Directive of Atheism. Atheists identifying with the main culture of their society. Lacking belief in gods and calling themselves Christians. Whether one requires belief in god/gods to call oneself a Christian is of no interest to me.

[Tcg]

He regards himself as a Christian in the sense that he acknowledges the culture he grew up in.

He sees similar connections re Christian Mythology with other cultures Mythologies.

In that, yes - I consider myself a Christian...

By the above criteria,couldnt most atheist in the western world consider themselves Christian?

Atheists couldn't [due to their prime directive] but Materialists theoretically could.

An atheist is one who lacks belief in god/s. That would not preclude one from being a Christian. A Christian is one who follows what they believe to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This wouldn't require a belief in god/gods. The first three Quakers I ever met were all atheists. Two of those also considered themselves Christians.


Tcg

Then the ones calling themselves Christians were following the Prime Directive of Atheism.

Nope, they were expressing the fact that they followed what they believed to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. Odd that you presume to assign a motive to people you've never met and know nothing about.

Strawman much?

Atheists identifying with the main culture of their society. Lacking belief in gods and calling themselves Christians. Whether one requires belief in god/gods to call oneself a Christian is of no interest to me.

No again. As I've already stated they weren't "identifying with the main culture of their society." They were expressing the fact that they followed what they understood to be the teachings of Jesus Christ. Whether or not you are interested has no effect on the facts I've presented.


Tcg

[William]

[Replying to Tcg in post #227]

An atheist is one who lacks belief in god/s. That would not preclude one from being a Christian. A Christian is one who follows what they believe to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This wouldn't require a belief in god/gods. The first three Quakers I ever met were all atheists. Two of those also considered themselves Christians.

Then the ones calling themselves Christians were following the Prime Directive of Atheism.

Nope, they were expressing the fact that they followed what they believed to be the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Whatever they were following re whatever they believed apparently had them thinking they were atheists.
If you can show me even one gospel verse which shows us all that biblical Jesus referred to his followers and "Christians", this would greatly add weight in favor of your argument.

Odd that you presume to assign a motive to people you've never met and know nothing about.

I can only go by the information provided. They could be fictional characters for all anyone knows, but fictional or not, you said that they were atheists, so according to the prime directive of Atheism, they lacked belief in god/gods.

I was commenting on that aspect. I don't particular care what the motives of atheists are and assigned no 'motive' re these example you gave.

It did not surprise me because there are many materialists who call themselves Christians.

Atheists identifying with the main culture of their society. Lacking belief in gods and calling themselves Christians. Whether one requires belief in god/gods to call oneself a Christian is of no interest to me.

No again. As I've already stated they weren't "identifying with the main culture of their society." They were expressing the fact that they followed what they understood to be the teachings of Jesus Christ. Whether or not you are interested has no effect on the facts I've presented.

You presented a story. You did not present any facts.

If these Christians calling themselves Atheists could be questioned as to why they do, this would be helpful as a way af getting clarification.

I myself have never met a Christian calling there self an Atheist, but if I ever do, I will then have opportunity to question them further as to why they do so.

Perhaps there are some Christians calling themselves atheists on this message board who will step up and explain their position?

[Tcg]

[Replying to Tcg in post #227]

An atheist is one who lacks belief in god/s. That would not preclude one from being a Christian. A Christian is one who follows what they believe to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. This wouldn't require a belief in god/gods. The first three Quakers I ever met were all atheists. Two of those also considered themselves Christians.

Then the ones calling themselves Christians were following the Prime Directive of Atheism.

Nope, they were expressing the fact that they followed what they believed to be the teaching of Jesus Christ.

Whatever they were following re whatever they believed apparently had them thinking they were atheists.
If you can show me even one gospel verse which shows us all that biblical Jesus referred to his followers and "Christians", this would greatly add weight in favor of your argument.

Odd that you presume to assign a motive to people you've never met and know nothing about.

I can only go by the information provided.

I've provided the fact that they followed what they believed to be the teaching of Jesus Christ. You in fact have ignored the information provided. Not surprisingly, many do so when they attempt to ignore facts that reveal the fallacy of their claims. These folks were and are Christians, not cultural Christians, who also lacked belief in god/gods. Yes, indeed some Christians are also atheists.


Tcg

[Tcg]

If these Christians calling themselves Atheists could be questioned as to why they do, this would be helpful as a way af getting clarification.

They aren't Christians calling themselves atheists (lower case), they are Christians who are (lower case) atheists. The only ones who need clarification are those who have never met these folks.

Tcg