"The Bible Tells Me So"

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"The Bible Tells Me So"

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We know that the bible shows us that Jesus never wrote anything which is in the Bible. Other people wrote down [alleged] that which Jesus is reported as having said.
We also know that the bible tells us that what is alleged that Jesus said is but a tiny fraction of what Jesus actually taught. The Bible contains very little [in comparison] in relation to words Jesus allegedly used to teach with.
We know that the bible tells us that what Jesus taught which the Bible did not record, were the mysteries hidden from The World regarding the Nature of his Fathers Kingdom.
We do not know that Jesus never wrote anything, but we do know that there is nothing in the world which is claimed to have come from his pen. He may have written down those many more other things the bible does not record, or perhaps scribes were with him and wrote those things down... but we know that if that were the case, those writings have not been shown to The World. They may exist, but are kept hidden.

IF those things not recorded, are hidden from us, how can we know about them? Does being a "Christian" have anything to do with those unknown things Jesus taught of? Is being a "Christian" something else entirely?

I think it must do, based upon the evidence we have.

I think that Christians are somewhat confused as to their place in the scheme of things as they cannot help but KNOW that what is in the Bible is second hand news - not directly from the pen of Christ, so they are not really 'following Jesus' by 'keeping his word' because they do not know WHAT it was that Jesus SPOKE about those things of mystery [his Father Kingdom] that the Bible author wrote Jesus actually taught to people in secrets. They are "keeping the word of others" who :said so" in writing.

I just asked Google:

"How much of the New Testament scriptures were written by the Apostle Paul? "
Based on the word counts of the 1769 edition of KJV from Bible stats, here's how it works out: Paul wrote 50190/179011 or 28% of the NT.
I also just asked Goggle:

"How many words did Christ speak in the bible" [I left out the word "Allegedly]

The Synoptic Gospel , once you exclude the duplications of Jesus' speeches in the four gospels, the total number of words spoken by Jesus is 31,426."]
Therefore it can be correctly ascertained that Christians are generally "Keeping the word of Paul" in relation to how many words Paul wrote in his teachings, compared to how many teachings are recorded as having come from Jesus.

Also Christians believe that The Bible is "The Word of God" when the Bible itself claims that Jesus is "The Word of God". so their appears to be a possible reason therein as to why Christians appear so confused.

Can we detect in Paul's writing any of these multitude "Secrets" Jesus is said to have taught in private, regarding his Fathers Kingdom, and if so, how are we able to ascertain that Paul was writing the same things as Jesus had taught, if we have no actual record of what Jesus taught?

And - with that, why would The Father want others to write on behalf of Jesus and have us trust that those others would teach the same things that Jesus taught?

Christians only KNOW about what Jesus is reported to have said, which is obviously so very little, as that Bible author suggests.

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Re: "The Bible Tells Me So"

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Tcg wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:49 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:43 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:57 pm

Over the centuries? Your branch of Christianity originated in the 1870s. That's about 150 years.


Tcg
What century was the 1800's?
What century was the 1900's?
What century are the the 2000's?

How many centuries can you count above? 1 2 or 3?

JW
How many centuries are 150 years? One century plus fifty years. Century singular not centuries plural.

Additionally, if someone was born in 1999 and they were still alive today, would you suggest that they are 2 centuries old or perhaps in this case 2 millennia?

I am glad, however, to see you admit that your branch of Christianity started in the 1870s.


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Re: "The Bible Tells Me So"

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Miles wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:51 pm Interesting. Looking up a few stats and doing some simple arithmetic, I found the following:

If Jesus spoke 31,426 words (excluding duplicated speeches), and in the New Testament there are on average 629 words per page (181,253 NT words divided by 288 NT pages source)

The words of Jesus would fill 50 (49.96) pages, which is only 17% of the New Testament (50 divided by 288 total NT pages)


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Thank you Miles for your research. I would point out however that it is also possible to learn from the gospel descriptions of Jesus actions.


Stats bookmarked for future use nonetheless, very helpful.


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