Vaccines and Religion

[Tcg]

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A new report reveals that 1 in 10 Americans say that COVID-19 vaccines conflict with their religious belief:

1 in 10 Americans say the COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs

Only 10% of Americans believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs, and 59% of Americans say too many people are using religious beliefs as an excuse not to get vaccinated, a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Interfaith Youth Core (IFYC) shows.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/10626553 ... exemptions

How could health care issues conflict with religious beliefs?

Were vaccines in the past rejected due to religious beliefs?


Tcg

[Athetotheist]

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A new report reveals that 1 in 10 Americans say that COVID-19 vaccines conflict with their religious belief:

1 in 10 Americans say the COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs

Only 10% of Americans believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs, and 59% of Americans say too many people are using religious beliefs as an excuse not to get vaccinated, a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Interfaith Youth Core (IFYC) shows.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/10626553 ... exemptions

How could health care issues conflict with religious beliefs?

Were vaccines in the past rejected due to religious beliefs?

Tcg

Well, if one has a bias for truth, versus the lies of Fauci, then they can consider their beliefs in a religious sense of truth versus lies, light versus darkness. Fauci said that there was no reason to believe the flu came from Wuhan, yet his organization had funded the creation of just such a covid in the Wuhan lab. Fauci said masks were of little help, then said he was lying. He said it would take two weeks to get it in control, and now, he is talking getting vaccines every 6 months, even though the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting the virus or from spreading it. One large study came to the conclusion that getting the virus, provides up to 28 times higher immune response than getting the vaccine. Which would point to getting the now low symptom new variant. One study showed that heart problems were higher when getting a shot, than from getting the flue. From the reports I have seen, only 1 person has died from the new variant, whereas the yearly US death numbers from cardiovascular disease is 800,000, yet people were given fast food if they got a shot. At first Biden and Harris said they couldn't trust a shot because Trump had pushed through the development. These people and their fear mongering followers are killing themselves by means of high blood pressure and suicide. As for vaccines in the past, they actually gave people an immunity to getting a disease, with a proofed minimum number of complications. As for Covid, more young people die from driving, and suicide than getting covid. If you are young and healthy, there is no reason for the government to force a shot on anyone. Actually, it would give the country a herd immunity if the young simply got immunized by getting the weak virus variant. Sweden didn't shut down, and their covid rates are a percentage of the US rates. Michigan shut down, and now their hospitalizations are requiring the hospitals to request the national guard to help them out. The lowest hospitalization is in Florida, which did not shut down, and they are fighting the Feds with respect to mandates. I mean, people can follow the science, or they can follow the political science of Fauci and Biden, who I am not sure who is pulling his strings, but they appear to have a godless/Marxist means of operating. And yes, Marxist is a hard-core religious type of belief, whereas if you follow me, you can go down the path of the yellow brick road. It is the fascist who regulate free speech, and close down other opinions.

You say a lot about studies here, but nothing about who conducted those studies or where. Would you mind being specific?

[Goat]

...IT doe snot 'overwrite dna', It causes a response to spikes in the MRna, but the ability to provide that response to foreign agents is already in the DNA. ...

Where do you get the idea that "It causes a response to spikes in the mRNA"? By what I have understood, the vaccine causes cells to produce the spike protein of the virus. And then that spike protein causes immune response, if everything goes well.

Yes, it causes the b cells to produce an enzyme. However, it does not affect the DNA. The DNA that allows for the response already exists. It neither rewrites, nor replace DNA.

Now, there are some viruses that can have the effect of doing that, if you get infected. Retroviruses invade the cell nucleus, and hijack the dna replication mechanism. However, the MRNA vaccine does not. Nor for that matter, does covid, when it invades a cell, it does not invade the nucleus. The spike protein does case the cells to produce the spike protein. What the spikes do is cause the B-cells to start producing y-shaped proteins that will bind with the virus spikes so they are unable to invade the cells. The spikes of the Mrna proteins are the same as the spikes of the covid virus, so the b-cells will produce the y-shaped proteins that protect against the virus. It 'recognizes' the shape, and is primed against the infection ahead of time. In the case of Mrna vaccines, they don't invade the cells, but the train the immune system against the virus.

[2ndpillar2]

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A new report reveals that 1 in 10 Americans say that COVID-19 vaccines conflict with their religious belief:

1 in 10 Americans say the COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs

Only 10% of Americans believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs, and 59% of Americans say too many people are using religious beliefs as an excuse not to get vaccinated, a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Interfaith Youth Core (IFYC) shows.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/10626553 ... exemptions

How could health care issues conflict with religious beliefs?

Were vaccines in the past rejected due to religious beliefs?

Tcg

Well, if one has a bias for truth, versus the lies of Fauci, then they can consider their beliefs in a religious sense of truth versus lies, light versus darkness. Fauci said that there was no reason to believe the flu came from Wuhan, yet his organization had funded the creation of just such a covid in the Wuhan lab. Fauci said masks were of little help, then said he was lying. He said it would take two weeks to get it in control, and now, he is talking getting vaccines every 6 months, even though the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting the virus or from spreading it. One large study came to the conclusion that getting the virus, provides up to 28 times higher immune response than getting the vaccine. Which would point to getting the now low symptom new variant. One study showed that heart problems were higher when getting a shot, than from getting the flue. From the reports I have seen, only 1 person has died from the new variant, whereas the yearly US death numbers from cardiovascular disease is 800,000, yet people were given fast food if they got a shot. At first Biden and Harris said they couldn't trust a shot because Trump had pushed through the development. These people and their fear mongering followers are killing themselves by means of high blood pressure and suicide. As for vaccines in the past, they actually gave people an immunity to getting a disease, with a proofed minimum number of complications. As for Covid, more young people die from driving, and suicide than getting covid. If you are young and healthy, there is no reason for the government to force a shot on anyone. Actually, it would give the country a herd immunity if the young simply got immunized by getting the weak virus variant. Sweden didn't shut down, and their covid rates are a percentage of the US rates. Michigan shut down, and now their hospitalizations are requiring the hospitals to request the national guard to help them out. The lowest hospitalization is in Florida, which did not shut down, and they are fighting the Feds with respect to mandates. I mean, people can follow the science, or they can follow the political science of Fauci and Biden, who I am not sure who is pulling his strings, but they appear to have a godless/Marxist means of operating. And yes, Marxist is a hard-core religious type of belief, whereas if you follow me, you can go down the path of the yellow brick road. It is the fascist who regulate free speech, and close down other opinions.

You say a lot about studies here, but nothing about who conducted those studies or where. Would you mind being specific?

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel. The Swedish comparison and the new variant worldwide death rate of one, was simply taken from recent news. To feel comfortable, you should do a search for which ever answers you are looking for. As for Biden closing down flights from South Africa for having the new variant, the latest I heard, 28 European countries have the new variant, and apparently, they haven't been shut down. Plus, the South African doctor in charge, said the symptoms were very mild.

[Athetotheist]

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A new report reveals that 1 in 10 Americans say that COVID-19 vaccines conflict with their religious belief:

1 in 10 Americans say the COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs

Only 10% of Americans believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs, and 59% of Americans say too many people are using religious beliefs as an excuse not to get vaccinated, a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Interfaith Youth Core (IFYC) shows.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/10626553 ... exemptions

How could health care issues conflict with religious beliefs?

Were vaccines in the past rejected due to religious beliefs?

Tcg

Well, if one has a bias for truth, versus the lies of Fauci, then they can consider their beliefs in a religious sense of truth versus lies, light versus darkness. Fauci said that there was no reason to believe the flu came from Wuhan, yet his organization had funded the creation of just such a covid in the Wuhan lab. Fauci said masks were of little help, then said he was lying. He said it would take two weeks to get it in control, and now, he is talking getting vaccines every 6 months, even though the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting the virus or from spreading it. One large study came to the conclusion that getting the virus, provides up to 28 times higher immune response than getting the vaccine. Which would point to getting the now low symptom new variant. One study showed that heart problems were higher when getting a shot, than from getting the flue. From the reports I have seen, only 1 person has died from the new variant, whereas the yearly US death numbers from cardiovascular disease is 800,000, yet people were given fast food if they got a shot. At first Biden and Harris said they couldn't trust a shot because Trump had pushed through the development. These people and their fear mongering followers are killing themselves by means of high blood pressure and suicide. As for vaccines in the past, they actually gave people an immunity to getting a disease, with a proofed minimum number of complications. As for Covid, more young people die from driving, and suicide than getting covid. If you are young and healthy, there is no reason for the government to force a shot on anyone. Actually, it would give the country a herd immunity if the young simply got immunized by getting the weak virus variant. Sweden didn't shut down, and their covid rates are a percentage of the US rates. Michigan shut down, and now their hospitalizations are requiring the hospitals to request the national guard to help them out. The lowest hospitalization is in Florida, which did not shut down, and they are fighting the Feds with respect to mandates. I mean, people can follow the science, or they can follow the political science of Fauci and Biden, who I am not sure who is pulling his strings, but they appear to have a godless/Marxist means of operating. And yes, Marxist is a hard-core religious type of belief, whereas if you follow me, you can go down the path of the yellow brick road. It is the fascist who regulate free speech, and close down other opinions.

You say a lot about studies here, but nothing about who conducted those studies or where. Would you mind being specific?

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel. The Swedish comparison and the new variant worldwide death rate of one, was simply taken from recent news. To feel comfortable, you should do a search for which ever answers you are looking for. As for Biden closing down flights from South Africa for having the new variant, the latest I heard, 28 European countries have the new variant, and apparently, they haven't been shut down. Plus, the South African doctor in charge, said the symptoms were very mild.

According to worldometers.info, 5,336,391 people have died of covid since it was supposed to disappear like magic a year and a half ago.

[Tcg]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

[2ndpillar2]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

[Tcg]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?


Tcg

[2ndpillar2]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?

Tcg

How about looking into the horse's mouth. Fauci admits that the vaccine is making things worse. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/fauci-admit ... ple-worse/ Your gods of Fauci, Pelosi, and Biden have gotten their sheep killed, and is retarding the educational and communication skills of small children by having them wear masks, which only serve to concentrate germs, which might be a good thing. Natural immunity comes from getting sick. 79% of omicron cases are from vaccinated people. Sounds like a great vaccine. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ 15,000 medical experts decry the use of vaccines on children. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ Now, I am quite happy you are getting your shots, if indeed you are actually getting them, but they will not prevent you from getting the covid, nor will prevent you from giving it to others. It is a "logical fallacy", an appeal to ignorance, to say otherwise. The only way to get a leg up is to eat right, rest right, exercise right, and be factually informed.

[nobspeople]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?

Tcg

How about looking into the horse's mouth. Fauci admits that the vaccine is making things worse. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/fauci-admit ... ple-worse/ Your gods of Fauci, Pelosi, and Biden have gotten their sheep killed, and is retarding the educational and communication skills of small children by having them wear masks, which only serve to concentrate germs, which might be a good thing. Natural immunity comes from getting sick. 79% of omicron cases are from vaccinated people. Sounds like a great vaccine. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ 15,000 medical experts decry the use of vaccines on children. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ Now, I am quite happy you are getting your shots, if indeed you are actually getting them, but they will not prevent you from getting the covid, nor will prevent you from giving it to others. It is a "logical fallacy", an appeal to ignorance, to say otherwise. The only way to get a leg up is to eat right, rest right, exercise right, and be factually informed.

WND (formerly WorldNetDaily) is an American news and opinion website and online news aggregator which has been described as "fringe" and far-right as well as politically conservative. The website is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories... The WND website provides news, editorials, letters to the editor, forums, videos and conducts a daily poll. Its CEO Joseph Farah has said that WND provides "the broadest spectrum of opinion anywhere in the news business", but acknowledges "some misinformation by columnists"...The WND website also sells survivalist gear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Surely this is expected from such a site.

[2ndpillar2]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?

Tcg

How about looking into the horse's mouth. Fauci admits that the vaccine is making things worse. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/fauci-admit ... ple-worse/ Your gods of Fauci, Pelosi, and Biden have gotten their sheep killed, and is retarding the educational and communication skills of small children by having them wear masks, which only serve to concentrate germs, which might be a good thing. Natural immunity comes from getting sick. 79% of omicron cases are from vaccinated people. Sounds like a great vaccine. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ 15,000 medical experts decry the use of vaccines on children. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ Now, I am quite happy you are getting your shots, if indeed you are actually getting them, but they will not prevent you from getting the covid, nor will prevent you from giving it to others. It is a "logical fallacy", an appeal to ignorance, to say otherwise. The only way to get a leg up is to eat right, rest right, exercise right, and be factually informed.

WND (formerly WorldNetDaily) is an American news and opinion website and online news aggregator which has been described as "fringe" and far-right as well as politically conservative. The website is known for promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories... The WND website provides news, editorials, letters to the editor, forums, videos and conducts a daily poll. Its CEO Joseph Farah has said that WND provides "the broadest spectrum of opinion anywhere in the news business", but acknowledges "some misinformation by columnists"...The WND website also sells survivalist gear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WorldNetDaily

Surely this is expected from such a site.

Apparently, going after the messenger is all you have, because you were unable to refute the information that was linked. As for your CNN left wing, progressive type news sites, they have been sued for lying, and the only Russian collusion, they peddled for 4 years, was on the part of their darling, Hillary Clinton, or that the Afghan withdrawal was a huge success. No, hold on to your god's of CNN, who are getting thrown into courts for sexual assaults, and who, like yourself, try to denigrate factual news, at the same time as pushing fake news. For a "wide opinion" of news, yeah, you might want to try WND. It has a quick over all view of aggregated news, but I am not a big fan of Farah. But unlike fake news, he doesn't claim to be a news source, but a news aggregator. If you want to find fake commentators, you can go to the large media outlets. With the coming "great tribulation", and the coming economic crash, you might want to stock on water, food, a source of heat, and a gun with ammunition. For a sample on WND economic section: https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/4967944/ Whereas wholesale prices over the last 12 months is up 9.6%. As for an article on inflation: https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/economist-t ... en-claims/ "In the last year, the price of a used car, for example, is going up by more than 30%. Beef prices have risen by 21%. Crude oil up 55%. Dimensional lumber, 35%. Wheat, 37%. Sugar, 33%. Corn, 39%. Palm Oil, 43%. Do you drink coffee in the morning, ever? Oh, too bad. The price of coffee has risen 108% in the last year. Do you like breakfast cereal? Oh, sorry. Oats are up 114%," he said.