Many failed predictions of Jesus return..

[Elijah John]

Matthew 16:27-28 New International Version (NIV)

27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Fathers glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
28 Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.

There have been many failed predictions of the "2nd coming of Christ". Most notably, Charles Taze Russell who predicted Jesus would return in 1914. When he didn't return, the prediction was revised to mean an "invisible return".

For debate, in light of the quoted passage from Matthew, was Jesus the first person to mistakenly predict his return?

How is Jesus prediction different from any of the others who have mistakenly predicted the time of his return?

[alexxcJRO]

[Replying to post 49 by alexxcJRO]

Again:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

Case dismissed.

See post 18.

Nonsense dear sir.
You are forgetting about symptom 2 and 3.
Symptom 1 + 2 + 3 points to Jesus suffering from a psychotic disorder.
People that have ADD don't suffer from delusions and hallucinations.

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 49 by alexxcJRO]

Again:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

Case dismissed.

See post 18.

Nonsense dear sir.
You are forgetting about

That's why your case was dismissed by a poster who agrees with you that Jesus got it wrong.

There is nothing in your case I need to remember.

[alexxcJRO]

That's why your case was dismissed by a poster who agrees with you that Jesus got it wrong.

So you are not dismissing it by that logic therefore my post still stands unchallenged :

Here again for you:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

Symptom1: Disorganized speech or thinking(rapidly switching topics, called derailment or loose association; switching to topics that are unrelated, called tangental thinking : cheek.

Symptom2: Grandiose delusions (delusions that a person has a special power or importance; grossly exaggerated beliefs of self-worth, power[7], knowledge, identity, exceptional relationship to a divinity or famous person): cheek.

Symptom3: Jesus had visual, auditory hallucinations (ex: He saw and heard the voice of Satan) : cheek.

Psychosis is an abnormal condition of the mind that results in difficulties telling what is real and what is not. Symptoms may include false beliefs and seeing or hearing things that others do not see or hear.[4] Other symptoms may include incoherent speech and behavior that is inappropriate for the situation
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Psychosis may involve delusional beliefs..The most common type of delusion are persecutory delusions, where a person believes that an individual, organization or group is attempting to harm them. Other delusions include delusions of reference (beliefs that a particular stimulus has a special meaning that is directed at the holder of belief), grandiose delusions (delusions that a person has a special power or importance), thought broadcasting (the belief that ones thoughts are audible) and thought insertion (the belief that ones thoughts are not their own).
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Disorganization is split into disorganized speech or thinking, and grossly disorganized motor behavior. Disorganized speech, also called formal thought disorder, is disorganization of thinking that is inferred from speech. Characteristics of disorganized speech include rapidly switching topics, called derailment or loose association; switching to topics that are unrelated, called tangental thinking; incomprehensible speech, called word salad or incoherence. Disorganized motor behavior includes repetitive, odd, or sometimes purposeless movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 53 by alexxcJRO]


Checkpoint wrote:

That's why your case was dismissed by a poster who agrees with you that Jesus got it wrong.

You ventured

So you are not dismissing it by that logic therefore my post still stands unchallenged :

Here again for you:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

I am dismissing it by that logic, by which another poster exposed how weak your case always was.

[alexxcJRO]

[Replying to post 53 by alexxcJRO]


Checkpoint wrote:

That's why your case was dismissed by a poster who agrees with you that Jesus got it wrong.

You ventured

So you are not dismissing it by that logic therefore my post still stands unchallenged :

Here again for you:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

I am dismissing it by that logic, by which another poster exposed how weak your case always was.

That logic is stupid dear sir.

Q: Why is so hard to understand? !:)))

I am not talking about only symptom 1.
You are forgetting about symptom 2 and 3.

Symptom 1 + 2 + 3 points to Jesus suffering from a psychotic disorder.

People that have ADD don't suffer from delusions and hallucinations.

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 53 by alexxcJRO]


Checkpoint wrote:

That's why your case was dismissed by a poster who agrees with you that Jesus got it wrong.

You ventured

So you are not dismissing it by that logic therefore my post still stands unchallenged :

Here again for you:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

I am dismissing it by that logic, by which another poster exposed how weak your case always was.

That logic is stupid dear sir.

Q: Why is so hard to understand? !:)))

I am not talking about only symptom 1.
You are forgetting about symptom 2 and 3.

Symptom 1 + 2 + 3 points to Jesus suffering from a psychotic disorder.

People that have ADD don't suffer from delusions and hallucinations.

Your case is about someone who lived 2000 years ago.

Using "logic" you presume to evaluate his mental fitness based on what he then said.

I could do the same and come to very different conclusions, not by using logic but by evaluating the opinions and reactions of those in his day and his own comments about that.

Madman or genius, or neither, but something else entirely?

[alexxcJRO]

[Replying to post 53 by alexxcJRO]


Checkpoint wrote:

That's why your case was dismissed by a poster who agrees with you that Jesus got it wrong.

You ventured

So you are not dismissing it by that logic therefore my post still stands unchallenged :

Here again for you:
This way one can make a case for "Jesus was probably suffering from a psychotic disorder."

I am dismissing it by that logic, by which another poster exposed how weak your case always was.

That logic is stupid dear sir.

Q: Why is so hard to understand? !:)))

I am not talking about only symptom 1.
You are forgetting about symptom 2 and 3.

Symptom 1 + 2 + 3 points to Jesus suffering from a psychotic disorder.

People that have ADD don't suffer from delusions and hallucinations.

Your case is about someone who lived 2000 years ago.

Using "logic" you presume to evaluate his mental fitness based on what he then said.

I could do the same and come to very different conclusions, not by using logic but by evaluating the opinions and reactions of those in his day and his own comments about that.

Madman or genius, or neither, but something else entirely?

If someone today came to you and talk to you about his imaginary friend: an entity from dimension 7.
About how he sees him and hears him vividly.
That was chosen by this entity because he was special(has some weird anomaly in his brain that makes him suitable to talk to beings from dimentsion 7) to warn humanity of an impending danger that is heading our way: a malevolent conglomerat of alien species is coming to earth with nefarius goals in mind.
And he is very disorganized in speech or thinking(rapidly switching topics, called derailment or loose association; switching to topics that are unrelated, called tangental thinking).

Q: Would you think for a second he is mentally ill? Would a psychiatrist suspect he probably is suffering from a psychotic disorder?

[Tcg]

I could do the same and come to very different conclusions, not by using logic but by evaluating the opinions and reactions of those in his day...

Sure you could. All you'd have to do is provide documents written during the time he supposedly lived. All this would take is providing documents no one before you has presented. So please, share this secret stash with us.

Madman or genius, or neither, but something else entirely?

Sure. It's got to be one of those given that "something else entirely" covers everything madman or genius doesn't. "Something else entirely" covers "nothing but pure mythology", so this covers my bet.

[Checkpoint]

I could do the same and come to very different conclusions, not by using logic but by evaluating the opinions and reactions of those in his day...

Sure you could. All you'd have to do is provide documents written during the time he supposedly lived. All this would take is providing documents no one before you has presented. So please, share this secret stash with us.

Madman or genius, or neither, but something else entirely?

Sure. It's got to be one of those given that "something else entirely" covers everything madman or genius doesn't. "Something else entirely" covers "nothing but pure mythology", so this covers my bet.

Your bet?

Secret stash?

Talk about mythology....

[Tcg]

I could do the same and come to very different conclusions, not by using logic but by evaluating the opinions and reactions of those in his day...

Sure you could. All you'd have to do is provide documents written during the time he supposedly lived. All this would take is providing documents no one before you has presented. So please, share this secret stash with us.

Madman or genius, or neither, but something else entirely?

Sure. It's got to be one of those given that "something else entirely" covers everything madman or genius doesn't. "Something else entirely" covers "nothing but pure mythology", so this covers my bet.

Your bet?

Secret stash?

Talk about mythology....

Oh, I get it. You can't present anything to support your claim. This is familiar territory.