Christians: Does this embarrass you?

[Avoice]

Christians: Do you ever feel like you have been left 'holding the bag' having to defend the Christian Testament? Forced to come up with all sorts of torturous explanations to defend the writings of your religion? Respond to the following:
EXAMPLE:

BELOW IS QUOTE FROM GALATIONS AND THE PASSAGE IN GENESIS THAT GALATIANS REFERS TO.

"But the promises were spoken to Abraham and his seed. He does not say, And unto seeds, as of many; but as of one; And thy seed, which is Christ."

"Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father. And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed"

THE CLAIM: Galatians claims that it says seed not seeds. Therefore it means one seed meaning Jesus.
THE PROBLEM: In Hebrew, the word seed is written the same in the singular and the plural: ZERA. The same way the word sheep in English is the same for singular and plural.

THE QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS: How do you defend Galations that claims if it meant more than one seed it would have said it. As if the word ZERA would say ZERAS if it meant plural. NO IT WOULDNT.
How does it feel having to conjuring up some explanation to save the ignorant writer of Galatians who didn't know that the word seed in Hebrew is the same in singular and in the plural

CHRISTIANS: YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED. ARE YOU ANGRY WITH ME FOR SHOWING YOU OR ANGRY THAT THE WRITER OF GALATIANS USED DECEPTION TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to servant1 in post #80]

Have you subjected Christian scripture to the same critical analysis which you have presumably applied to the writings of every other religion?

I have. Trinity translations are altered and erred by satans will, misleading all using them.

Are you, then, our one and only trustworthy source of information? Are you so wise and highly enlightened that what you believe is an infallible indicator of Ultimate Truth?

[servant1]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #81]


The teachings of Jesus clearly show who is who. Few even know what he taught.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to servant1 in post #82]

The teachings of Jesus clearly show who is who. Few even know what he taught.

A lot of people have read the Christian Bible. If they don't understand what it says, how is its teaching clear?

[historia]

My argument in post #61 has nothing to do with whether the Bible is historically accurate or not (as if we can speak in such simplistic terms to begin with), but that's the rabbit hole you've gone down in your replies.

Your argument is essentially, "Aw, c'mon.....give 'em a break! Just let it go....."

How many rabbit holes in other religions do Christian apologists just let go?

Careful readers of the thread will note that, in my original post, I cited the Oxford scholar John Barton to show that the early Rabbis employed a similar methodology to Paul when interpreting the Bible, precisely to demonstrate that my argument is not a case of special pleading, as you are now trying to suggest.

I said in that post, too, that, for those who have not given proper consideration to the historical context of the Bible, discovering that ancient readers interpreted sacred texts differently than we do can be disorienting. I think that probably best describes your attempted rebuttal: disoriented. I would also add disappointing.

[Clownboat]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #49]


Paul and Jesus are in harmony, otherwise God wouldn't have used his writings in the bible. Its men who twist things into disharmony.

As what shown to you, Paul and Jesus were not in harmony. I put in the work to show this and all you are doing now is sticking your fingers in your ears and repeating dogma.

[Clownboat]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #50]


John 3:16 proves it is for all.
In the NT speaking in tongues was speaking a foreign language they never spoke before. via holy spirit guidance.

Well, let me refer you to the Bible:

Acts 19:6
6 When Paul placed his hands on them, the Holy Spirit came on them, and they spoke in tongues and prophesied.

Mark 16:17
17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

1 Corinthians 14:2
2 For anyone who speaks in a tongue does not speak to people but to God. Indeed, no one understands them; they utter mysteries by the Spirit.

The Bible disagrees with you because speaking in tongues was in fact not just speaking a foreign language they never spoke before.

[servant1]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #83]


1Single teaching shows the whole world who is who= Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking-FIRST the kingdom and his ( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)-- 97% of the religions claiming to be Christian teach to seek Jesus' righteousness first because they do not listen to him.

[servant1]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #85]


They are in harmony. You use an altered translation.

[servant1]

[Replying to Clownboat in post #86]


Whatever that means the bible does not explain. One thing for sure its not mumbo jumbo they speak.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to historia in post #84]

I said in that post, too, that, for those who have not given proper consideration to the historical context of the Bible, discovering that ancient readers interpreted sacred texts differently than we do can be disorienting.

If the Bible can be interpreted as ancient text, then so can the text of any ancient non-Christian religion. Thus, the Bible has no special claim to make.