The Christian Armageddon

[RisenSaints]

People ask me, "Aren't you worried about the misery your book will cause Christians?" I reply, "I suspect that 28,000 nuclear warheads exploding all around them will make them even more depressed." And the funny thing is, they never ask that question of Christian missionaries travelling overseas to convert the natives. Starting with Saul of Tarsus, for two thousand years Christian missionaries have been saying to people, "Either worship the Lord Jesus Christ or burn in hell for eternity".

Did it enter their heads that the natives had been happily worshipping their pagan gods for hundreds, maybe thousands of years? Did a Christian missionary ever consider the misery he might be causing, the dread, the fear, the anguish? Did he worry about the splits he was causing in families and between tribes? Did he worry about the wars he might be causing? Or did he just think, "Fuck it all, I know everything there is to know and I'm going to terrify these wogs into worshiping Jesus"?

I'm not threatening people with eternal damnation, I'm warning them that unless they tackle the madness of Christian fundamentalism, the chances or World War 3 breaking out are greater than they would otherwise be. With 42% the population of the USA longing for their nuclear "Armageddon", thousands of them in the military, commanding and crewing nuclear submarines, flying stealth bombers, programming Pentagon and Norad computers, waiting patiently down nuclear missile silos, we are at greater risk than we would be if intelligent, rational people were in charge.

That's all I'm saying.

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People ask me, "Aren't you worried about the misery your book will cause Christians?" I reply, "I suspect that 28,000 nuclear warheads exploding all around them will make them even more depressed." And the funny thing is, they never ask that question of Christian missionaries travelling overseas to convert the natives. Starting with Saul of Tarsus, for two thousand years Christian missionaries have been saying to people, "Either worship the Lord Jesus Christ or burn in hell for eternity".

Did it enter their heads that the natives had been happily worshipping their pagan gods for hundreds, maybe thousands of years? Did a Christian missionary ever consider the misery he might be causing, the dread, the fear, the anguish? Did he worry about the splits he was causing in families and between tribes? Did he worry about the wars he might be causing? Or did he just think, "Fuck it all, I know everything there is to know and I'm going to terrify these wogs into worshiping Jesus"?

I'm not threatening people with eternal damnation, I'm warning them that unless they tackle the madness of Christian fundamentalism, the chances or World War 3 breaking out are greater than they would otherwise be. With 42% the population of the USA longing for their nuclear "Armageddon", thousands of them in the military, commanding and crewing nuclear submarines, flying stealth bombers, programming Pentagon and Norad computers, waiting patiently down nuclear missile silos, we are at greater risk than we would be if intelligent, rational people were in charge.

That's all I'm saying.

False Christianity will play it's part along with all the other deceived and deceiving forces that are working towards the goal of a staged false Armageddon that is all a part of the final great deception.

True Christians a pacifist in the extreme. And they know what ever happens God has overcome all the actions of the vain ones who presume they will be Gods when they are no more then created beings.


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True Christians a pacifist in the extreme.

Are there only a few "True Christians"? Where are they found? How are they recognized (aside from pacifism)?

[Slopeshoulder]

Many Christian fundamentalists, but not all by any means, are belligerent and militaristic or hawkish, imbued with the imagery of battle and blood revenge to an almost erotic degree. They, along with non-christian fundamentalists, are on my short list of those most likely to be the cause of a cataclysmic war in the future.
After a period of secular-ideological wars (which were themselves a religion of sorts), i think the next round will be back to the theistic-religious kind, driven by fundamentalists of one kind or another.

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People ask me, "Aren't you worried about the misery your book will cause Christians?" I reply, "I suspect that 28,000 nuclear warheads exploding all around them will make them even more depressed." And the funny thing is, they never ask that question of Christian missionaries travelling overseas to convert the natives. Starting with Saul of Tarsus, for two thousand years Christian missionaries have been saying to people, "Either worship the Lord Jesus Christ or burn in hell for eternity".

Did it enter their heads that the natives had been happily worshipping their pagan gods for hundreds, maybe thousands of years? Did a Christian missionary ever consider the misery he might be causing, the dread, the fear, the anguish? Did he worry about the splits he was causing in families and between tribes? Did he worry about the wars he might be causing? Or did he just think, "Fuck it all, I know everything there is to know and I'm going to terrify these wogs into worshiping Jesus"?

I'm not threatening people with eternal damnation, I'm warning them that unless they tackle the madness of Christian fundamentalism, the chances or World War 3 breaking out are greater than they would otherwise be. With 42% the population of the USA longing for their nuclear "Armageddon", thousands of them in the military, commanding and crewing nuclear submarines, flying stealth bombers, programming Pentagon and Norad computers, waiting patiently down nuclear missile silos, we are at greater risk than we would be if intelligent, rational people were in charge.

That's all I'm saying.

Man is prone to violence. He seems to be the only member of the animal kingdom who will kill for no reason except just to kill. All the technological advances that science can muster has not been able to change that. Personally, my opinion is that man will inevitably self destruct....except that God intervene. And that may be what Revelations is suggesting.

[Slopeshoulder]

False Christianity

Please define, within the confines of forum rules.

will play it's part along with all the other deceived and deceiving forces

Please define and name. Deceived how and by whom?

that are working towards the goal of a staged false Armageddon

Please document examples and press or academic accounts so those of us who have never heard of it can be enlightened. I can think of Hagee. Who else? Are their efforts coordinated? Is the devil in charge?

that is all a part of the final great deception.

By whom? How's it going? What are they doing? Details please!

True Christians a pacifist in the extreme.

Please define a true christian, within the confines of forum rules.

Other than Mennonites and similiar, with say the theologian Yoder as an example, and perhaps Berrigan IIRC, none come to mind as pacifists in the extreme. Are the rest false? Says you?

And they know what ever happens God has overcome all the actions of the vain ones who presume they will be Gods when they are no more then created beings.

PSA: "whatever" is one word.
Please define and name the "vain ones."
Do you mean Mormons ("think they will be Gods")? Are they behind it all?

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True Christians a pacifist in the extreme.

Are there only a few "True Christians"? Where are they found? How are they recognized (aside from pacifism)?

Sadly there are only a few left. But Jesus said as much when He lamented with the prophetic question:

Luke 18
8 I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?


Of course pacifism is not the only marker. True Christians believe Jesus in all things. They are willing to walk away from everything they own and everyone they are connected to if their conscience calls them to get out.


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Man is prone to violence. He seems to be the only member of the animal kingdom who will kill for no reason except just to kill. All the technological advances that science can muster has not been able to change that. Personally, my opinion is that man will inevitably self destruct....except that God intervene. And that may be what Revelations is suggesting.

Agreed. Mankind is inexorably headed to self-destruction. It is mans nature. Pride comes before destruction and men who control this world are by definition the most proud. And yes nothing has changed in the nature of mankind over the centuries. What has changed is the rapid growth of knowledge that now allows mankind to be so destructive that he can now destroy the very ecosystem that sustains him.

Without intervention, without God. Mankind is simply doomed.


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Mankind is inexorably headed to self-destruction. It is mans nature.

Kindly document with something other than opinion and bible quotes.

Pride comes before destruction

Opinion, bible quote or religious dogma??

Without intervention, without God. Mankind is simply doomed.

More opinion? Based on what?

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False Christianity

Please define, within the confines of forum rules.

One who claims to be a follower of the Messiah Jesus, but believes in doctrines that teach counter to the teachings of the Messiah Jesus.

Example. Jesus clear teachings to love ones enamies, to turn ones cheak to attack and not to resist.

Matthew 5
38 You have heard that it was said, An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also.

will play it's part along with all the other deceived and deceiving forces

Please define and name. Deceived how and by whom?

I believe the great deception will be the anti-christ claiming to be the Messiah Jesus. I believe many in this world will embrace him as such included in that will be many "christians".

that are working towards the goal of a staged false Armageddon

Please document examples and press or academic accounts so those of us who have never heard of it can be enlightened. I can think of Hagee. Who else? Are their efforts coordinated? Is the devil in charge?

Wow thats a huge topic. I will give you one doctrine that is supported by some churches as one example.

Dominonism. put simply this is the belief that Christians are called upon to Work to dominate the world to establish their religion as the governing authority on earth as to prepare the way for the return of the Messiah Jesus. In this mindset it is the christians who will create the Kingdom for Jesus. This runs in direct opposition to Biblical belief that it is the retun of the Messiah jesus that will defeat the forces of anti-christ and establish the kingdom for Christians. The anti-christ and his agents will use warfare and conquest as part of his actions on earth. Dominonism fits into this well.

that is all a part of the final great deception.

By whom? How's it going? What are they doing? Details please!

Oh from what i see it is all going to plan. As for who i do not know the full extent, But i believe the harlot written in the book of Revelation is not just one denomination or one religion. Some of the religions that are in open opposition are lead by people who are allied to each other. I see the Harlot to be mulit religious organisation.

True Christians a pacifist in the extreme.

Please define a true christian, within the confines of forum rules.

Other than Mennonites and similiar, with say the theologian Yoder as an example, and perhaps Berrigan IIRC, none come to mind as pacifists in the extreme. Are the rest false? Says you?

Anyone who would take a carnal wepon and attack another man is in rebellion against the Word of God. That kind of covers a lot of denominations in one brush wipe, don't you think.

And they know what ever happens God has overcome all the actions of the vain ones who presume they will be Gods when they are no more then created beings.

PSA: "whatever" is one word.
Please define and name the "vain ones."
Do you mean Mormons ("think they will be Gods")? Are they behind it all?

Well the Mormon religion is a more openly identifiable a part of it. But i was alluding to the elites in the system. They believe they will be masters of the world under lucifer, But they are the ones being deceived the most.

In the pyramid of worldly power each level deceives the level below it. It's not just A conspiracy its a cascade of conspiracies. People who search find out about one of the lower conspiracies and think they know what the pyramid is up to. But all the humans in the pyramid don't know the ultimate conspiracy only the capstone (satan himself) knows. He will sacrifice the whole dam pyramid to show himself as the redeemer of the world, to deceive the world. Servants of satan are pawns for him anyway, he will not hesitate to burn them all to win over those whom he has not deceived.

Revelation 17
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

The beast is going to destroy his harlot. He made her for that purpose. A worthy reward for her loyal service to his plans.



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