Vaccines and Religion

[Tcg]

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A new report reveals that 1 in 10 Americans say that COVID-19 vaccines conflict with their religious belief:

1 in 10 Americans say the COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs

Only 10% of Americans believe that getting a COVID-19 vaccine conflicts with their religious beliefs, and 59% of Americans say too many people are using religious beliefs as an excuse not to get vaccinated, a new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute (PRRI) and the Interfaith Youth Core (IFYC) shows.

https://www.npr.org/2021/12/09/10626553 ... exemptions

How could health care issues conflict with religious beliefs?

Were vaccines in the past rejected due to religious beliefs?


Tcg

[Tcg]

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FYI:
The following denominations have a theological objection to vaccination:

Dutch Reformed Congregations - This denomination has a tradition of declining immunizations. Some members decline vaccination on the basis that it interferes with divine providence.

Wow. Thinking that vaccines could interfere with the Almighties' plan to off somebody. Being Almighty just ain't what it used to be.


Tcg

[Tcg]

You seem to believe in yourself as your own law maker/god (moral authority). You seem to give credit, and bow down to the fake media, and their godless Marxist agenda, which includes muffling and excoriating alternative opinions and beliefs. It seems you are right, and others with differing beliefs and opinions are all wrong. Others may be wrong, but that doesn't leave you as being right. It might leave you among the "many". Leaders are put in place by the gods, and in many cases, such as for Alexander, and the Augustus Caesars, claim godhood. When you follow the leaders, who make themselves out as gods, and you believe what they say, you kind of come under their power, and bow down to them. The daughters of Babylon churches have their problems, but they have been given an exit plan. You took your exit, but apparently wound up in a place of negative energy, berating others.

di·a·tribe
/ˈdīəˌtrīb/
noun
a forceful and bitter verbal attack against someone or something.
"a diatribe against the Roman Catholic Church"
synonyms: tirade, harangue, verbal onslaught, verbal attack, stream of abuse, denunciation, broadside, fulmination, condemnation, criticism, stricture, reproof, reproval, reprimand, rebuke, admonishment, admonition, invective, upbraiding, vituperation, abuse, castigation, tongue-lashing, knocking, slamming, panning, bashing, blast, flak, slating, philippic, obloquy

...wound up in a place of negative energy, berating others.

Some folks present evidence when asked to support their claims. Others, well they don't.


Tcg

[Goat]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?

Tcg

How about looking into the horse's mouth. Fauci admits that the vaccine is making things worse. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/fauci-admit ... ple-worse/ Your gods of Fauci, Pelosi, and Biden have gotten their sheep killed, and is retarding the educational and communication skills of small children by having them wear masks, which only serve to concentrate germs, which might be a good thing. Natural immunity comes from getting sick. 79% of omicron cases are from vaccinated people. Sounds like a great vaccine. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ 15,000 medical experts decry the use of vaccines on children. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ Now, I am quite happy you are getting your shots, if indeed you are actually getting them, but they will not prevent you from getting the covid, nor will prevent you from giving it to others. It is a "logical fallacy", an appeal to ignorance, to say otherwise. The only way to get a leg up is to eat right, rest right, exercise right, and be factually informed.

You have hit on a pet peeve of mine. That pet peeve is 'some sources are not good sources, and often give misinformation. World News Daily is one that is an extremely poor source.

Let's go with the first claim, that Fauci said that vaccines will make things worse.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 895253002/

That is a verifiable point that shows the WND lied.

That also can be confirmed by

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2RF1ED


USA today as a source is not the greatest, but much better than WND, and Reuters is very respectable.

You really should vet your sources.

[2ndpillar2]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?

Tcg

How about looking into the horse's mouth. Fauci admits that the vaccine is making things worse. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/fauci-admit ... ple-worse/ Your gods of Fauci, Pelosi, and Biden have gotten their sheep killed, and is retarding the educational and communication skills of small children by having them wear masks, which only serve to concentrate germs, which might be a good thing. Natural immunity comes from getting sick. 79% of omicron cases are from vaccinated people. Sounds like a great vaccine. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ 15,000 medical experts decry the use of vaccines on children. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ Now, I am quite happy you are getting your shots, if indeed you are actually getting them, but they will not prevent you from getting the covid, nor will prevent you from giving it to others. It is a "logical fallacy", an appeal to ignorance, to say otherwise. The only way to get a leg up is to eat right, rest right, exercise right, and be factually informed.

You have hit on a pet peeve of mine. That pet peeve is 'some sources are not good sources, and often give misinformation. World News Daily is one that is an extremely poor source.

Let's go with the first claim, that Fauci said that vaccines will make things worse.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 895253002/

That is a verifiable point that shows the WND lied.

That also can be confirmed by

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2RF1ED


USA today as a source is not the greatest, but much better than WND, and Reuters is very respectable.

You really should vet your sources.

Yeah, USA today is a bastion of truth and the American way: https://iotwreport.com/usa-today-hammer ... fake-news/ As for your USA today obfuscating report, an ex-vice president of Pfizer, is bringing charges against Fauci, along with Bill Gates, etc., in the World Court. And it was Fauci who lied to the Senate when he said he did not fund gain of function to Wuhan. He thought he was safe, because he had changed the definition of gain of function, but the questioning had gone beyond simply the term used and narrowed in on the purpose of the funding. That will probably not be brought to court until 2022. https://headlineusa.com/fauci-big-pharm ... -humanity/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... b-funding/
No, your backing of Fauci, and using a proven propaganda machine for your reference, is not putting you in a good light. Fauci may or may not escape justice, but his followers will certainly reap the results of his political based edicts.

[nobspeople]

If memory serves me, the studies were from the UK and Israel.

If memory serves? That is the extent of your ability to support your claim/s? Maybe perhaps they were from the UK and Israel? That is the best you can provide. Astounding.


Tcg

The well informed do not need to check with me, for they already know. Those not well informed, continue to flounder. I am not your mother. If you are allowed on a computer, check it out yourself. If you are not allowed to use a computer, maybe you can call a friend.

This is a debate sub-forum, those who make claims here are expected to support their claims with references. It is not my job to support that which you quite clearly can't support yourself. And yes, I know how to use a computer in spite of your ad hominem fallacy. Do you have anything other than logical fallacies to respond with?

Tcg

How about looking into the horse's mouth. Fauci admits that the vaccine is making things worse. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/fauci-admit ... ple-worse/ Your gods of Fauci, Pelosi, and Biden have gotten their sheep killed, and is retarding the educational and communication skills of small children by having them wear masks, which only serve to concentrate germs, which might be a good thing. Natural immunity comes from getting sick. 79% of omicron cases are from vaccinated people. Sounds like a great vaccine. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ 15,000 medical experts decry the use of vaccines on children. https://www.wnd.com/2021/12/cdc-79-omic ... ed-people/ Now, I am quite happy you are getting your shots, if indeed you are actually getting them, but they will not prevent you from getting the covid, nor will prevent you from giving it to others. It is a "logical fallacy", an appeal to ignorance, to say otherwise. The only way to get a leg up is to eat right, rest right, exercise right, and be factually informed.

You have hit on a pet peeve of mine. That pet peeve is 'some sources are not good sources, and often give misinformation. World News Daily is one that is an extremely poor source.

Let's go with the first claim, that Fauci said that vaccines will make things worse.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 895253002/

That is a verifiable point that shows the WND lied.

That also can be confirmed by

https://www.reuters.com/article/factche ... SL1N2RF1ED


USA today as a source is not the greatest, but much better than WND, and Reuters is very respectable.

You really should vet your sources.

One wouldn't want to vet anything if it hinders the story they're trying to spread as fact. Bad sources spread fear and fear controls!
It's the same (or at least very similar) tactic used when quoting from the bible - another bastion of news, facts and trustworthiness (that was sarcasm for those that need to be told)

[JehovahsWitness]

It's the same (or at least very similar) tactic used when quoting from the bible - another bastion of news, facts and trustworthiness (that was sarcasm for those that need to be told)

Yes the bible* can be thought of as a source of "good news" but can we think of it as a sourse of the latest news?







JW

* NOTE :

Of course it is permissible to mention the bible in this sub-forum. [...] See LINK for FULL quote: viewtopic.php?p=1050358#p1050358

I am ONLY mentioning the bible to show what Christianity says in line with subforum guidelines, not to prove that a statement or story therein is true. ​I am not presenting the bible as authorative or proof of truth and have no intention to add an argument to that end in this subforum See LINK for details: viewtopic.php?p=1058158#p1058158

[Tcg]

* NOTE :

Of course it is permissible to mention the bible in this sub-forum. [...] See LINK for FULL quote:

No need. I'll provide it here given that when one sentence is stripped from its context the full meaning of the quote is lost:

Of course it is permissible to mention the bible in this sub-forum. The Bible however is not considered authoritative here. If you intend to add an argument that is considered authoritative here, you'll need to provide something more than and other than the Bible.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Allow me to rephrase ...

* I am ONLY mentioning the bible to show what Christianity says in line with subforum guidelines, not to prove that a statement or story therein is true. ​I am not presenting the bible as authorative or proof of truth and have no intention to add an argument to that end in this subforum See LINKS for details: viewtopic.php?p=213491#p213491

[nobspeople]

It's the same (or at least very similar) tactic used when quoting from the bible - another bastion of news, facts and trustworthiness (that was sarcasm for those that need to be told)

Yes the bible* can be thought of as a source of "good news" but can we think of it as a sourse of the latest news?







JW

* NOTE :

Of course it is permissible to mention the bible in this sub-forum. [...] See LINK for FULL quote: viewtopic.php?p=1050358#p1050358

I am ONLY mentioning the bible to show what Christianity says in line with subforum guidelines, not to prove that a statement or story therein is true. ​I am not presenting the bible as authorative or proof of truth and have no intention to add an argument to that end in this subforum See LINK for details: viewtopic.php?p=1058158#p1058158

Some seem to think it's the only news that matters, no matter if it's the latest or not. It's weird how the human mind works after centuries of indoctrination and dogma, especially.

[Goat]

Yeah, USA today is a bastion of truth and the American way: https://iotwreport.com/usa-today-hammer ... fake-news/ As for your USA today obfuscating report, an ex-vice president of Pfizer, is bringing charges against Fauci, along with Bill Gates, etc., in the World Court. And it was Fauci who lied to the Senate when he said he did not fund gain of function to Wuhan. He thought he was safe, because he had changed the definition of gain of function, but the questioning had gone beyond simply the term used and narrowed in on the purpose of the funding. That will probably not be brought to court until 2022. https://headlineusa.com/fauci-big-pharm ... -humanity/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... b-funding/
No, your backing of Fauci, and using a proven propaganda machine for your reference, is not putting you in a good light. Fauci may or may not escape justice, but his followers will certainly reap the results of his political based edicts.

Compared to world news daily, yes USA today is reasonable.

And, you are ignoring Reuters.

But, then you go into using 'headline usa'... a site that uses loaded terms and far right extremism in it's headlines. Sorry, but that reinforces my point.

For example, the rating about usa today is

Overall, we rate USA Today Left-Center Biased based on editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean news reporting fact check record.

and compare that with 'world net daily' and you get

Overall, we rate WND Questionable based on extreme right-wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories, and numerous failed fact checks.

And, headlineusa is a site registered via Iceland. Between that, and the loaded terms they use in their headlines make the source suspect.