The Existence of a Preadamic Population on Earth.

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The Existence of a Preadamic Population on Earth.

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Let's chat about origins and creation.

It is not possible to explain the ancient geological evidence in the Earth, or the Massive numbers and size of Megalithic ruins all over the Earth with a Young Earth narrative. Additionally, recent discoveries of hominid bones and their retrieved DNA, recovered with crafted artifacts, from numerous sites do not support a theory of human evolution, but shows strong evidence of hominids on Earth hundreds of thousands of years ago suddenly arising.

Even retrieved clay and stone records list kings and their populations living for many successive tens of thousands of years. The successively distinct categories of fossilized reptiles and lower life forms shows multiple repetitive appearances and extinctions, far apart from any do called Evolution unto modern creatures. The recently discovered incredible resilience of microlife denies its theorized creation only for today's low stress biome.

The only theory which gives sense to all of this is the following:

1.) Earth has for close to half a million years been a Petri dish for propagation of various carbon based species.

2.) Successive planetary catastrophies have each time wiped out most life, but have occasionslly left living survivors, and have left many physical artifacts.

3.) The creation and manipulation of the physical Earth and its life have been puposefully accomplished by various sentient agencies able to plan and execute with intricacy.

4.) The most recent recreation if the biome and life has been done by the Superior Great Creator YHWH/Elohim/God as recorded in Genesis, when God said "Let Us Make Man In Our Image," which had never before been done. After all of the previous experimentation by other beings, God then created a far superior Man in His own Image.

5.) Researched oral traditions and artifacts show every major ancient culture had an enduring narrative of both extra terrestrial action upon creation, and a world wide flood.

Today, we have a huge data base of non God supernatural beings tampering with the life forms and the DNA of God's superior humans, in order to corrupt and control us for their Satanic purposes. Large eye socketed and oversized humanoid skulls from Egypt, South America, Central Europe, and other recesses show there were greatly nontypical humanoids living in ancient empires. Even a very small nonhuman, nonape biped Egyptian mummy has been found.

Yes, the fallen angels and Satan can manipulate existing life forms, as shown in the Pre Noah accounts of Genesis and the Book of Enoch. It continues through today. Jesus will now return when the Earth again becomes "As The Days of Noah" were with its corrupted life forms.

Unfortunately, Christendom denies this all, as part of their high road to spiritual superiority and tidy Theology. Unfortunately as well, the corrupt Roman Catholic church being The Beast of Babylon actually has a leg up on the reality of some of this. They will use it as a tool of the emerging One World Order.

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Re: The Existence of a Preadamic Population on Earth.

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[Replying to Benson in post #1]
Let's chat about origins and creation.
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DrNoGods wrote: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:43 pm [Replying to Benson in post #1]

Thank you. Will you please move this thread to the Science and Religion area for me? I do not know how to do this. Regards.

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[Replying to Benson in post #3]
Will you please move this thread to the Science and Religion area for me?
(Topic moved from Theology, Doctrine, and Dogma). I'll add a debate question:

Are the claims made in the OP justified?
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[Replying to Benson in post #1]

Let's (debate) about origins and creation.

Let's ...
It is not possible to explain the ancient geological evidence in the Earth, or the Massive numbers and size of Megalithic ruins all over the Earth with a Young Earth narrative.
No problems there ... this is most certainly true and the accepted (by the science community at least) age of the Earth is approximately 4.6 billion years.
Additionally, recent discoveries of hominid bones and their retrieved DNA, recovered with crafted artifacts, from numerous sites do not support a theory of human evolution, but shows strong evidence of hominids on Earth hundreds of thousands of years ago suddenly arising.
Now we have a problem. DNA has been retreived (so far) only from Homo sapiens and Neanderthals as far as I am aware. No DNA has been extracted from the many earlier hominids such as erectus/ergaster and the numerous other "flavors" between erectus and sapien. So DNA does not tell much of the story. However, the fossil record fills in some of the gaps and shows that Homo sapiens did indeed evolve from earlier forms, and did not just suddenly appear. We can see that brain case volume inceased from habilis to erectus to heidelbergensis, etc. to sapien (in a very "bushy" evolutionary tree as we now know ... not a straight line path). Structure also became more complex and intelligence rose, as can be seen by the artifacts left by these various members of our genus. This Wikipedia article has a good summary of fossils in the Homo line:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_h ... on_fossils
Even retrieved clay and stone records list kings and their populations living for many successive tens of thousands of years.
Another problem. The first civilizations that organized on Earth started only about 10,000 BCE with the Neolithic Revolution when agriculture had developed sufficiently to feed many people in one location. The hunter gatherer lifestyle changed to a farming lifestyle, and things like "kings and their populations" could not exist without the population part being in place. So there cannot be records of kings and their populations existing for successive "tens of thousands of years." Thousands of years maybe (eg. Egypt), but not tens of thousands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_history
The successively distinct categories of fossilized reptiles and lower life forms shows multiple repetitive appearances and extinctions, far apart from any do called Evolution unto modern creatures.
The "so called" Theory of Evolution has reached that status (the closest thing in science to a fact) because it has been conclusively demonstrated to be correct. The fossil record strongly confirmed it for many decades of research, but the genetics work of the last 4-5 decades has just further confirmed it to be correct. Modern creatures did indeed evolve from earlier forms, including humans.
1.) Earth has for close to half a million years been a Petri dish for propagation of various carbon based species.

2.) Successive planetary catastrophies have each time wiped out most life, but have occasionslly left living survivors, and have left many physical artifacts.
No problem with these ... although Petri dish might be a gross simplification. But certainly many carbon-based species have evolved over time. Evolution is what has allowed populations to recover after mass extinctions, and these events actually lend a great deal of supporting evidence for evolution taking place.
3.) The creation and manipulation of the physical Earth and its life have been puposefully accomplished by various sentient agencies able to plan and execute with intricacy.
There is no evidence for this and never has been. That is partly because there is no evidence for the existence of any such sentient agency capable of the "creation" of a planet like Earth (eg. things like gods), and the formation of Earth from the accretion disk surrounding the Sun after it formed some 4.6 billion years ago adequately explains planet formation around a star. There is no need anymore to invoke deities to explain such things.
4.) The most recent recreation if the biome and life has been done by the Superior Great Creator YHWH/Elohim/God as recorded in Genesis, when God said "Let Us Make Man In Our Image," which had never before been done. After all of the previous experimentation by other beings, God then created a far superior Man in His own Image.
Again, there is no evidence for any such event. Creation myths abound in various religions, for example:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_creation_myths

The problem is that none of them have ever been demonstrated to have actually happened, and we can prove with certainty that the Biblical creation story is not how it happened, and it is absolutely certain that "Noah's Flood" never happened. The evidence against that flood story is overwhelming, or anything even remotely like it. There have certainly been local floods, but never a worldwide flood in the era of Homo sapiens that wiped out all but 8 people in the relatively recent past, and all air-breathing animals.
5.) Researched oral traditions and artifacts show every major ancient culture had an enduring narrative of both extra terrestrial action upon creation, and a world wide flood.
And no evidence that any of them actually occured. These are mostly myths and allegory and just because someone's holy book describes some kind of event does not mean it happened.
Today, we have a huge data base of non God supernatural beings tampering with the life forms and the DNA of God's superior humans, in order to corrupt and control us for their Satanic purposes.
And how do you know this? The supernatural has never been demonstrated to exist in any form (gods or otherwise).
Yes, the fallen angels and Satan can manipulate existing life forms, as shown in the Pre Noah accounts of Genesis and the Book of Enoch. It continues through today. Jesus will now return when the Earth again becomes "As The Days of Noah" were with its corrupted life forms.
Extrapolation from stories in ancient holy books ... but not a science issue so I'll leave this one alone. Maybe one day Satan and Jesus will make themselves known in some way and we can all meet them and say hello.
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What is the question(s)?

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William wrote: Sun Jan 31, 2021 2:13 pm What is the question(s)?
The progress here, rather than a question, is to demonstrate that both the standard model of species and societal "Evolution" by blind scientists, and the "Single Creation Young Earth" preached by deceived Religionists are both wrong.

The Heavens which declare God's Glory and the Earth which displays His Goodness and Love upon Mankind are each ignored for what they plainly show when observed. Man's professional Scientists and professional Religionists all currupt their minds with traditions of arrogance.

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Shouldn't this thread belong then, to Random Rambling?

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Too much for you? I understand why. Please have continued comfort in blessed familiarity.

By the way, did you know Universalism was the prevalent Gospel of the Early Church? Try with casual diligence to accidently read 2 Cor. 5:19. But only if you feel like it.

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The progress here, rather than a question, is to demonstrate that both the standard model of species and societal "Evolution" by blind scientists, and the "Single Creation Young Earth" preached by deceived Religionists are both wrong.
The problem you have with this statement is that nothing has been "demonstrated." All you have done is to make statements which, by themselves, represent only personal opinions. If there is no desire to defend the OP claims with some sort of evidence or (non-biblical ... see the rules for the Science and Religion section), or debate them along those lines, then this thread is indeed probably best placed in the Random Ramblings section.
But the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses. They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, they laughed at the Wright Brothers. But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown..
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