Communication with the dead

[Rose2020]

Why would anyone wish to do that?

Is it through grief with attendant emotions? In which case it is understandable but irrational.

Or is it idle curiosity without reason? Which explains the showmanship of mediums, an entertainment. Mainly a con in my view. Think of people such as James Randi who debunked many an unfortunate con artist.

To my mind it is unhealthy and dangerous to delve in matters that promise to be detrimental. I see no good coming from it.

The Bible warns us to have no connection with mediums and such, I believe the Bible is giving excellent advice. Leave well alone that which is a natural necessary process. We live, we must die. Acceptance is the only real peace. Even if you could communicate with those gone, what good could it do?

[Miles]

Why would anyone wish to do that?

Is it through grief with attendant emotions? In which case it is understandable but irrational.

Or is it idle curiosity without reason? Which explains the showmanship of mediums, an entertainment. Mainly a con in my view. Think of people such as James Randi who debunked many an unfortunate con artist.

My guess as to why anyone would want to communicate with the dead would be to find out if there IS anything after death and what it's like: Eternally roasting on the spit of Hell or eating Oreos with milk and never getting full.

To my mind it is unhealthy and dangerous to delve in matters that promise to be detrimental. I see no good coming from it.

What matters are those that promise to be detrimental?

The Bible warns us to have no connection with mediums and such,

Then don't, but are these the only ways to communicate with the dead? Personally, I don't know.

I believe the Bible is giving excellent advice. Leave well alone that which is a natural necessary process.

Curious as to where in the Bible communicating with the dead qualifies as something that should be left alone. I mean, heck, there are a lot of natural necessary processes that can't be left alone, such as giving birth, eating, pooping, etc.

We live, we must die. Acceptance is the only real peace.

But for some, such acceptance is extremely difficult, even with the promises of rose gardens, and Oreos and milk as made by various religions

Even if you could communicate with those gone, what good could it do?

Satisfying curiosity. One of the stronger desires of the human intellect.



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[Rose2020]

Curiosity killed the cat.

[William]

The Bible warns us to have no connection with mediums and such,

If one can communicate with the dead, then they cannot be dead. The so-called 'dead' must be alive.

[Miles]

Curiosity killed the cat.

It also gave you the light bulb, transistors, refrigeration, antibiotics, and the internet . . . . . . . . . . Now that we have this aspect of curiosity at out of the way how about addressing the points in my post, or are they just too difficult? After all, this IS a DEBATE forum and if you can't or don't want to debate I suggest you post elsewhere.


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[William]

[William]

[Replying to William in post #6]
"Contacting The Dead" - "Communication with the dead"
The pattern seems to be -
1: The Ancients were not aware at first that when one dies, that is the end of oneself. Thus they believed that they could communicate with those who had died.
2: Since it appeared to be the case that the mediums were talking to something intelligent, it was determined that the only invisible intelligence one should commune with was GOD - specifically the God of the Israelites who happened to use mediums...called "Prophets".
3: Later, this idea developed into belief that when people died they stayed dead, therefore - [apart from GOD] any invisible intelligence was designated "demonic" unless it stated that it believed Jesus was GODs Medium.

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[Rose2020]

[Replying to Miles in post #5]

Curiosity is not always a good thing. I believe when people open themselves to communicate with those who have passed on, they become willing victims of evil. The devil and demons are real, yet they can only harm those who invite them in. Think of Ouija boards and the effects - some have been driven to suicide by the evil released.

I believe in leaving well alone the things you do not understand, after all why even assume that the dead have anything useful to contribute any longer to the living? As a Christian I believe our souls are not able to communicate anyway, the results of mediums and Ouija boards etc are evil spirits impersonating dead loved ones.

[William]

[Rose2020]

[Replying to William in post #9]

Maybe, but I wouldn't risk it. It is collective power of minds wishing together to contact spirits. At best a waste of time, at worst so disturbing that mental problems have have resulted. It ranges from pure cons to real damage.
The Bible gives the best guidance as on all matters, leave well alone.