20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
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20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #161JoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:14 pmWe've been last daysing it for two thousand years now, don't rob the kid's college fund just yet.
The 7 headed beast with 10 horns and 2 horned beast of Rev 13 had to be in place-The world has watched this for many years now here in these last days.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #162You leave my ex-wife out of this!kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 9:12 pmJoeyKnothead wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:14 pmWe've been last daysing it for two thousand years now, don't rob the kid's college fund just yet.
The 7 headed beast with 10 horns and 2 horned beast of Rev 13 had to be in place-The world has watched this for many years now here in these last days.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #163That is too funny. God has failed so many times you'd think he wasn't really all that smart. He made wonderful angels, and then hordes of them rebelled. He made Adam and Eve, plonked them in a perfect paradise and that experiment failed. He let people populate the earth and then had to drown all but a few righteous. They repopulated the earth and everything still went down the gurgler. He tried fixing things by cloning himself as Jesus and everything still went down hill. He has been thwarted or outsmarted at every turn and he is supposed to be the omnipotent one. Now he's going to rely on yet another test to find the faithful. Good luck with that one.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:59 pmbrunumb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:51 pmYeah, really loving of him to set Satan loose to wreck people's lives once again. This God is the epitome of evil.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pm So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
Yes very loving to give them a second chance with no satan influences to distract them They must be tested to prove their faithfulness. God is making 100% sure this system never occurs again. He is always right.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #164This is just shouting faithclaims at us. This is no discussion. You have nothing worthwhile to say.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:55 amThese are merely faithclaims. Not to say preaching rather than discussion. Why should we credit any of this? You may say: 'your choice', but again, which choice? If we all get this afterlife, why do beliefs matter, and if a religious Faith matters, why Christianity rather than any of the others? You see - validating your religious claims is what matters, not explaining your dogma to us.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pmMiles wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:02 pmAssuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?
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All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #165brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 11:54 pmThat is too funny. God has failed so many times you'd think he wasn't really all that smart. He made wonderful angels, and then hordes of them rebelled. He made Adam and Eve, plonked them in a perfect paradise and that experiment failed. He let people populate the earth and then had to drown all but a few righteous. They repopulated the earth and everything still went down the gurgler. He tried fixing things by cloning himself as Jesus and everything still went down hill. He has been thwarted or outsmarted at every turn and he is supposed to be the omnipotent one. Now he's going to rely on yet another test to find the faithful. Good luck with that one.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 7:59 pmbrunumb wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 11:51 pmYeah, really loving of him to set Satan loose to wreck people's lives once again. This God is the epitome of evil.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pm So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
Yes very loving to give them a second chance with no satan influences to distract them They must be tested to prove their faithfulness. God is making 100% sure this system never occurs again. He is always right.
Satan got jealous and wanted worship-the rest wanted sex with mortal females. God did not come to earth, only blind guides teach that. God doesn't interfere with free will, it wouldn't be free will otherwise, Its mortals who fail God that is to blame. Like the idiots running govts and corporations that have polluted everything and are selling us cancer for profit.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #166TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 2:40 amThis is just shouting faithclaims at us. This is no discussion. You have nothing worthwhile to say.kjw47 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:01 pmTRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Mon Mar 27, 2023 6:55 amThese are merely faithclaims. Not to say preaching rather than discussion. Why should we credit any of this? You may say: 'your choice', but again, which choice? If we all get this afterlife, why do beliefs matter, and if a religious Faith matters, why Christianity rather than any of the others? You see - validating your religious claims is what matters, not explaining your dogma to us.kjw47 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 7:24 pmMiles wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:02 pmAssuming your definition of death is the common one, a "permanent cessation of all vital functions including brain activity" how does Jesus fit into the picture, if at all?
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All sin is acquitted at death. One cannot be retried for them. So during the resurrection, one gets an opportunity to learn and apply Gods will with no satan influences around. But then he gets loosed for a little while to test their faith, many fail but the faithful get their names written in Gods book of life. A very loving provision from God to give them a second opportunity.
Those who live to the tribulation and Armageddon. My teachers say those who die then by Gods hand wont get resurrected. It is coming. We are near the end of these last days.
Faith facts.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #167Enough of this. For the last time, the world is not flat!kjw47 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 28, 2023 1:12 pm Satan got jealous and wanted worship-the rest wanted sex with mortal females. God did not come to earth, only blind guides teach that. God doesn't interfere with free will, it wouldn't be free will otherwise, Its mortals who fail God that is to blame. Like the idiots running govts and corporations that have polluted everything and are selling us cancer for profit.
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #169[Replying to TRANSPONDER in post #102]
I am not sure if you understand the world. What is your worldview exactly? Are universals real? Is math real? Are there fundamental things? Do they change? Can they change? What is change?
I am not sure if you understand the world. What is your worldview exactly? Are universals real? Is math real? Are there fundamental things? Do they change? Can they change? What is change?
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Re: 20 Terrible Ideas from the New Testament
Post #170.
in - 1Co 14:
The Bible here is speaking of both man and woman - husbands and wives – concerning the church order when someone else is speaking in tongues.
saying how that they are to keep silence and BOTH - have respect and save their talking for when they are at home. The order of women keeping totally silent in church was only concerning the church order when someone else is speaking in tongues. -
The Trinitarian Translators attempted to add ideas that are not in the manuscripts. Proof is available.
1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
:28 But if there be no interpreter, KEEP SILENT in the church; and speak to YOUUSELVES, and to God.
:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first Keep SILENT
THE COMMAND IS FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP SILENCE - woman who were in this particular setting - at this particular church - at this particular time and place would begin to talk and ask questions which was causing a disturbance .
THE COMMAND WAS EVERYONE in the church who were speaking about and asking about details of the prophecy - if women want to ask questions about the interpretation wait until after the service is over.
this passage is mistranslated the original message of the manuscript does not command women to not speak in the church - but regarding the interpretations of prophecy from speaking in tongues, EVERYONE is to keep silent about it durring service unless they have the interpretation
in - 1Co 14:
The Bible here is speaking of both man and woman - husbands and wives – concerning the church order when someone else is speaking in tongues.
saying how that they are to keep silence and BOTH - have respect and save their talking for when they are at home. The order of women keeping totally silent in church was only concerning the church order when someone else is speaking in tongues. -
The Trinitarian Translators attempted to add ideas that are not in the manuscripts. Proof is available.
1Co 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.
:28 But if there be no interpreter, KEEP SILENT in the church; and speak to YOUUSELVES, and to God.
:29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge.
:30 If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first Keep SILENT
THE COMMAND IS FOR EVERYONE TO KEEP SILENCE - woman who were in this particular setting - at this particular church - at this particular time and place would begin to talk and ask questions which was causing a disturbance .
THE COMMAND WAS EVERYONE in the church who were speaking about and asking about details of the prophecy - if women want to ask questions about the interpretation wait until after the service is over.
this passage is mistranslated the original message of the manuscript does not command women to not speak in the church - but regarding the interpretations of prophecy from speaking in tongues, EVERYONE is to keep silent about it durring service unless they have the interpretation