Prayer

[POI]

For Debate: Is prayer just talking to yourself? If not, why not? Sure, prayer may make one feel satisfied/other, but there is likely no agency, on the other side, facilitating such desired response(s).

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People pray to many differing god(s) and/or other. Statistically speaking, many god(s) and/or other aren't answering, as many of these god(s) and/or other likely do not even exist. Hence, at least in part, many are merely talking to themselves in prayer. If many of the desired result(s) can happen in prayer, without any agency actually responding, because such agency does not exist, then it's quite plausible this is the case for all prayer.

[POI]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

[TRANSPONDER]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

Only to jump through the same hoops as before. Biased claims of answered prayer for themselves or others (as "Hey, what do a few untruths matter if some souls are saved?" And I can point to some events in my prayerless atheist life that could be claimed as answered prayer - If I had been praying, which I wasn't.

No, specific demo is needed.I do the water (on my desk) into wine, but 'cold fusion' will do (or even a prediction of the Gabriel stone ten years ago would be knowledge beyond human) But nothing but coincidence and feelgood. I find it significant that not only is the water -bottle challenge never accepted, they immediately begin making excuses as to why they shouldn't even try. It's almost like they know darn well it isn't going to work.

And never mind the denial about a clear Biblical NT guarantee that any prayer made in faith will (even given hyperbole and so long as it doesn't harm anyone) be granted. It won't and they know it won't.

[1213]

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I think I have already answered. And this remains a matter of belief. But, it would be nice to know, have you prayed? And when you prayed, did you just talk to yourself?

[TRANSPONDER]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

I think I have already answered. And this remains a matter of belief. But, it would be nice to know, have you prayed? And when you prayed, did you just talk to yourself?

As I recall, you answer was the usual denial, but we are eager to hear any apologetic you might have. As for prayer,when I was required to do it, it was just rote recital by Order, and meant nothing. As I say, I have had prayers answered when I wasn't ever praying. But I have a Voice going in my head all the time. Sometimes i even debate with it ("Who's that weirdo") but I know it's me, and deconverts have realised the Jesusgod they told themselves they were hearing was just themselves.

Final proo.f When Believers change their opinion about anything, the god in their head changes His opinion as well.

[POI]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

I think I have already answered. And this remains a matter of belief. But, it would be nice to know, have you prayed? And when you prayed, did you just talk to yourself?

And I'm sure I have already answered. And yes, I did pray for 30 years. And yes, praying is likely nothing more than talking to oneself.

[The Nice Centurion]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

I think I have already answered. And this remains a matter of belief. But, it would be nice to know, have you prayed? And when you prayed, did you just talk to yourself?

And I'm sure I have already answered. And yes, I did pray for 30 years. And yes, praying is likely nothing more than talking to oneself.

Praying is far more than talking to yourself.

1) It is propaganda for your sect.

2) It is self-indoctrination.

3) It is preservation of ones cognitive dissonance.

4) It raises to self-apologetics when one has to explain to himself why a prayer was not granted.

[1213]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

I think I have already answered. And this remains a matter of belief. But, it would be nice to know, have you prayed? And when you prayed, did you just talk to yourself?

And I'm sure I have already answered. And yes, I did pray for 30 years. And yes, praying is likely nothing more than talking to oneself.

So, you just talked to yourself and expected something?

[1213]

...I have had prayers answered when I wasn't ever praying.

How do you know a prayer is answered, if you didn't even pray?

But I have a Voice going in my head all the time. Sometimes i even debate with it ("Who's that weirdo") but I know it's me...

Is the voice saying stupid things?

[POI]

So, you just talked to yourself and expected something?

All prayer is speaking to oneself.

[POI]

Resurrecting this topic.... Any Christians out there want to take a stab at this one?

I think I have already answered. And this remains a matter of belief. But, it would be nice to know, have you prayed? And when you prayed, did you just talk to yourself?

And I'm sure I have already answered. And yes, I did pray for 30 years. And yes, praying is likely nothing more than talking to oneself.

Praying is far more than talking to yourself.

1) It is propaganda for your sect.

2) It is self-indoctrination.

3) It is preservation of ones cognitive dissonance.

4) It raises to self-apologetics when one has to explain to himself why a prayer was not granted.

Sure, but it involves the self, and no others.