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Matt 19:16-26

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.

24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?

26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.


This passage actually is teaching the Truth that Jesus is God ! Notice vs 17 As the young man had addressed Jesus as good, and Jesus responded accordingly, why callest thou me good, for none is good but ONE, that One Being God

Now , notice Jesus did not say, none is good but One and that is my Father, but He said that One, Being God !

Now if Jesus by this is not insinuating that He is God, then the alternative is that He was not good, seeing He just said only ONE, not Two, but ONLY ONE is good.

Now, if Jesus was not good, being that He was not the Only One Good God, then His commanding him, the young ruler, in order to be perfect, that he must go sell all his possessions, then give to the poor, and follow Him; Such an commandment exposed that the young man loved his possessions above God, which was a violation of the very first commandment, now if Jesus was not God, then the young mans refusal to obey and follow Jesus, could not be a proper standard to gauge his Love to God !

For there could not have been nothing amiss about not making such a great sacrifice as that Jesus told him, and then following Him if the One speaking was not the One God, who Only was good !

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@onewithhim
The worship of God is given to Him by those who wish to acknowledge Him as the Most High God,
Jesus is the Most High in His Deity. Ive already discussed that. Thats proven by Isaiah vision of Him here Isa 6:1-3

In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

3 And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is the Lord of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.

John writes that Isaiah saw Jesus as well in this vision Jn 12:39-41

39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,

40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

Now in Isa 6:1 He is ăḏōnāy on His Throne High and Lifted up, then in Vs 3 He is the LORD of Hosts, Jehovah of Hosts and the earth full of His Glory, which John Identifies as Jesus Jn 12:41

So if Jesus is worshipped as God/Jehovah of Hosts and He is not God in His Divine Essence, its idolatry

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Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:09 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:28 pm
Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:43 pm So you dont believe God can do something that He did do. He became a Man and died for the sins of His People.
Who are you claiming died for your sins -- God or Jesus?
I already told you. Jesus is God and Man, He died as the Man Jesus Christ. He died as a Man who is God. Now take a picture of this answer so you know what I have stated.
You say that God died. He cannot die. He is the Source of life. Without Him there would be nothing. Jesus is not God, he is a perfect spirit person who is now with his God in heaven and sits at His right hand. (Hebrews 8:1; Revelation 3:12) He was resurrected BY God. Jesus himself said that the Father was "the only true God." (John 17:3)

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onewithhim wrote: Thu May 09, 2024 11:24 am
Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:09 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:28 pm
Brightfame52 wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:43 pm So you dont believe God can do something that He did do. He became a Man and died for the sins of His People.
Who are you claiming died for your sins -- God or Jesus?
I already told you. Jesus is God and Man, He died as the Man Jesus Christ. He died as a Man who is God. Now take a picture of this answer so you know what I have stated.
You say that God died. He cannot die. He is the Source of life. Without Him there would be nothing. Jesus is not God, he is a perfect spirit person who is now with his God in heaven and sits at His right hand. (Hebrews 8:1; Revelation 3:12) He was resurrected BY God. Jesus himself said that the Father was "the only true God." (John 17:3)
Because we believe Jesus in dual nature, he was put death in the flesh (human nature) 1 Peter 3:18
And take back His life. (Divine nature) John 10:17-18.

1 Peter 3:18
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
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John 10:17-18
17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.
18 No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
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So now you dont believe Jesus is Yahew Most Hight even after I showed you scripture confirming it.

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Brightfame52 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:25 am [Replying to onewithhim in post #482]

So now you dont believe Jesus is Yahew Most Hight even after I showed you scripture confirming it.
You didn't show anything confirming it. Did you read my posts?

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onewithhim wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 10:42 am
Brightfame52 wrote: Fri May 10, 2024 7:25 am [Replying to onewithhim in post #482]

So now you dont believe Jesus is Yahew Most Hight even after I showed you scripture confirming it.
You didn't show anything confirming it. Did you read my posts?
This is my answer to your Post#482 that you says that God referring to Jesus cannot die;
Because we believe Jesus in dual nature, he was put death in the flesh (human nature) 1 Peter 3:18
And take back His life. (Divine nature) John 10:17-18.
So I believe Jesus is God, has the power to take back His life.

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“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.

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cleopas wrote: Sat May 11, 2024 2:15 pm [Replying to Brightfame52 in post #10]

“We know that the “wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23) and our lord Jesus supposedly ransomed sinners from death. ‘For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.’ (Mark 10:45) BUT ‘No one who may have been set apart for death among men shall be ransomed; he shall surely be put to death.’(Leviticus 27:29)” According to scripture, Jesus could not ransom you from death.
I believe Jesus can redeem man, as text says "shall be redeemed".
" But surely be put to death", Adam Clarke's Commentary understand it as "or be employed in His service till death".

Leviticus 27:29
None devoted, which shall be devoted of men, shall be redeemed; but shall surely be put to death.

[Which shall be devoted of men] Every man who is devoted shall surely be put to death, or, as some understand it, be the Lord's property, or be employed In his service till death.
(from Adam Clarke's Commentary, Electronic Database. Copyright © 1996, 2003, 2005, 2006 by Biblesoft, Inc. All rights reserved.)

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Thats because all other men are sinners, sinners cant redeem other sinners duh

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