Christians: Does this embarrass you?

[Avoice]

Christians: Do you ever feel like you have been left 'holding the bag' having to defend the Christian Testament? Forced to come up with all sorts of torturous explanations to defend the writings of your religion? Respond to the following:
EXAMPLE:

BELOW IS QUOTE FROM GALATIONS AND THE PASSAGE IN GENESIS THAT GALATIANS REFERS TO.

"But the promises were spoken to Abraham and his seed. He does not say, And unto seeds, as of many; but as of one; And thy seed, which is Christ."

"Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father. And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed"

THE CLAIM: Galatians claims that it says seed not seeds. Therefore it means one seed meaning Jesus.
THE PROBLEM: In Hebrew, the word seed is written the same in the singular and the plural: ZERA. The same way the word sheep in English is the same for singular and plural.

THE QUESTION FOR CHRISTIANS: How do you defend Galations that claims if it meant more than one seed it would have said it. As if the word ZERA would say ZERAS if it meant plural. NO IT WOULDNT.
How does it feel having to conjuring up some explanation to save the ignorant writer of Galatians who didn't know that the word seed in Hebrew is the same in singular and in the plural

CHRISTIANS: YOU HAVE BEEN DECEIVED. ARE YOU ANGRY WITH ME FOR SHOWING YOU OR ANGRY THAT THE WRITER OF GALATIANS USED DECEPTION TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to servant1 in post #10]

Oh sorry for my error, Which God do you believe in?

The God beyond Meister Eckhart's God Beyond God.

[1213]

[Replying to 1213 in post #4]

If zera can mean seed and seeds, how do you know it is not about a seed?

"But the promises were spoken to Abraham and his seed. He does not say, And unto seeds, as of many; but as of one; And thy seed, which is Christ."
(Gal. 3:16)

The author of Galatians is arguing that "seed" means only one, and that for the text to mean many, it would have to say "seeds".

But......

"And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered." (Gen. 13:16)

"And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be." (Gen. 15:5)

We know that the author of Genesis is using "seed" to mean many because he links it to examples of many things: dust particles and stars.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Maybe Paul was speaking about gen. 12:7,

And Jehovah appeared to Abram and said I will give this land to your seed. And he built an altar there to Jehovah, who appeared to him.
Gen. 12:7

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #12]

Maybe Paul was speaking about gen. 12:7,

And Jehovah appeared to Abram and said I will give this land to your seed. And he built an altar there to Jehovah, who appeared to him.
Gen. 12:7

If you're asserting that "seed" in this verse refers only to the Messiah, are you concluding that Jehovah never promised the land of Canaan to the Jews?

[servant1]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #11]


So none then correct?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #11]


So none then correct?

You seem to be interpreting every god you don't believe in as "none".

[servant1]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #15]


I know the true living God=YHVH(Jehovah) there is no other God.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to servant1 in post #16]

I know the true living God=YHVH(Jehovah) there is no other God.

Simply claiming that the particular deity you believe in is the only one isn't much of a rebuttal.

[1213]

[Replying to 1213 in post #12]

Maybe Paul was speaking about gen. 12:7,

And Jehovah appeared to Abram and said I will give this land to your seed. And he built an altar there to Jehovah, who appeared to him.
Gen. 12:7

If you're asserting that "seed" in this verse refers only to the Messiah, are you concluding that Jehovah never promised the land of Canaan to the Jews?

Maybe in this case it can mean just Isaac, or Ishmael. I believe in the end Jesus is the king of Jews, the land also belongs to him and therefore it was ultimately about Jesus, or at least that is why Paul said what he said.

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to 1213 in post #18]

Maybe in this case it can mean just Isaac, or Ishmael. I believe in the end Jesus is the king of Jews, the land also belongs to him and therefore it was ultimately about Jesus, or at least that is why Paul said what he said.

When Jehovah promises to make Abram's seed as numerous as dust particles and stars, does the text ever single out Isaac or Ishmael?

Paul may have believed what he wrote, but simply believing something doesn't make it correct.

[servant1]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #17]


Best find Jehovah now while you can.