I read an interesting article titled "10 Ways to Tell if Your President Is a Dictator". Here are the ten ways.
1. Systematic efforts to intimidate the media.
2. Building an official pro-Biden media network.
3. Politicizing the civil service, military, National Guard, or the domestic security agencies.
4. Using government surveillance against domestic political opponents.
5. Using state power to reward corporate backers and punish opponents.
6. Stacking the Supreme Court.
7. Enforcing the law for only one side.
8. Really rigging the system.
9. Fearmongering.
10. Demonizing the opposition.
I think that we can all agree that Biden will never become a dictator due to his mental decline and his accusations of serious corruption, but the people that are pulling his strings could form a dictatorship.
Question for debate, how many of these ten warnings has the Biden Administration committed?
Is our President a Dictator?
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Post #21....because the title Christian no longer means anything to me. I've studied the life and times of Jesus for decades and I personally think that in the earliest years of development the church spun his memory in to all kinds of mumbo jumbo.MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:34 pm
Yes, I am a Christian. Can you tell me why you would not answer that question? No answer implies that you are not.
I don't know many Christians who follow what Jesus wanted.
I don't think that you understand Einstein's simple suggestion, either. After seeing that most simple observation of his, surely you would now need to find a person who can explain Special Theory to you simply! ???That is interesting, I never understood the Special Theory of Relativity, can you tell me how Einstein explained it 'simply'?
My simple suggestion is that you ask your IT search engine for a simple explanation......and hope that you get one.
The Pharisees used to think up clever examples like that to try and confound the simple guidance of Jesus!No, that is not true. If you don't believe me then go find a fentanyl addict and give her some money and see how much good that does.
Knowingly passing dangerous substances to folks which can/will kill them is not giving.
That comment reminds me of the occasion when a wealthy and careless woman who had always claimed to be a devout Christian tried to insist that giving the price of a meal to the homeless was evil because they would only spend it on wicked alcohol....... She clutched her mammon to her so hard.The point about US AID is not that they are doing humanitarian aid, it is that they are brainwashing and enslaving people. And that is just evil.
I'm sorry to be so abrupt, but I don't take much notice of people who claim to be Christian but whose religion seems to be a mish-mash of politico-religious spin.
What kind of church you belong to?
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Post #22I would need to see chapter and verse on that.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pm [Replying to MilesJBennell in post #17]
Wasn't he supposed to be "God's man for the hour"? The new King Cyrus?
I can't speak about the law in this matter, but even the democrats admit that the law was ambiguous, so the rewrote the law to explicitly make the role of the VP a ceremonial function. It seems to me that the thing about Pence, is that his role as VP was to spy out the inner most thoughts of Trump and report it to the people that actually run the government as well as leaking to the press.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pmHe wanted Pence to send Electoral College votes back to the states, but Pence knew that he didn't have the authority to do so. As president of the Senate, Pence was charged with ceremonially presiding over the EC count and had no authorization to do anything more.
Also, if there is actual voter fraud, how is that to be resolved. It will take years to investigate and go through the courts till it is just a moot point. We saw exactly the same thing in Brazil with the Bolsonaro election as well as a few other countries like France, Venezuela, Bangladesh and many African countries.
You are right. He can't end something that never existed. There is no birthright citizenship in the constitution. Read it again.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pmAnd he still doesn't understand that you can't issue an executive order ending constitutional birthright citizenship?
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
That was fake news. Almost everything the fake news said about him was fake news. Listen to the phone call again.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pm Hopefully he learned that you can't ask a state official to "find" exactly one more vote than your opponent got, as in this embarrassing episode:
Biden launched his presidential bid because of the fine people hoax. I can understand why Biden got it wrong as he had dementia, but the people around him should have known better. The fine people hoax is a good litmus test to see who is susceptible to fake news.
And organizations like US AID made sure that the people would believe the lie. They were so good at maintaining the lie that even Obama repeated it many times even 8 years after the fraud began. https://news.grabien.com/story/barack-o ... t-to-appea
Yes the Amish people went down to build shelter for the victims but FEMA kicked them out.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pm And don't forget how the recent hurricane season was handled:
Trump may have had a conversation with Kemp before Kemp spoke with Biden, so I can understand why he may have a communications lag. But, did the fake news even ask either Trump or Kemp about it? For some reason that clip is a bit harder to find.
Slate is fake news. It is interesting that no victims of the aid being cut off are coming forward. The only complaints are from those that use US AID as a personal piggybank. And those who want to bring about regime change.
Again, The Guardian is fake news. Rumble is just a free speech platform that is banned in Brazil, France, Russia, China, Egypt and a few other countries that want to keep their citizens in the dark.SLATE wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 8:10 pm "While it was not created primarily for news, for some it has become a major news source."
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... el-culture
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Post #23MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:34 pm No, that is not true. If you don't believe me then go find a fentanyl addict and give her some money and see how much good that does.
All giving is good, giving that is not good is not giving.
Circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works.
And she did say she was going to buy food for her children, who am I to accuse her of lying?
MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 7:34 pm The point about US AID is not that they are doing humanitarian aid, it is that they are brainwashing and enslaving people. And that is just evil.
US AID has done many bad things with their money for example there was some money that had been earmarked for humanitarian aid in Pakistan that they used to make a special version of Twitter for Cuba which was intended to destabalize the island for a coup. What could possibly go wrong with that?oldbadger wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 12:21 pmThat comment reminds me of the occasion when a wealthy and careless woman who had always claimed to be a devout Christian tried to insist that giving the price of a meal to the homeless was evil because they would only spend it on wicked alcohol....... She clutched her mammon to her so hard.
I'm sorry to be so abrupt, but I don't take much notice of people who claim to be Christian but whose religion seems to be a mish-mash of politico-religious spin.
I agree with you and that old saying that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and more recently, virtue signaling.
Matthew 6:1-4 wrote: Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2 Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
I belong to the one who laid down his life to redeem me from my sins. I certainly don't brlong to a building or even a denomination. My church is a group of like minded belivers that I have felowship with.
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Post #24[Replying to MilesJBennell in post #22]
Wasn't he supposed to be "God's man for the hour"? The new King Cyrus?
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/201 ... e67abc0000
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump ... 1eecbfc158
And he still doesn't understand that you can't issue an executive order ending constitutional birthright citizenship?
Based on the first sentence of Section 1, the Court has held that a child born in the United States of Chinese parents who were ineligible to be naturalized themselves is nevertheless a citizen of the United States entitled to all the rights and privileges of citizenship. The requirement that a person be subject to the jurisdiction thereof, however, excludes its application to children born of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state, children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation, or children of members of Indian tribes subject to tribal laws. In addition, the citizenship of children born on vessels in United States territorial waters or on the high seas has generally been held by the lower courts to be determined by the citizenship of the parents. Citizens of the United States within the meaning of this Amendment must be natural and not artificial persons; a corporate body is not a citizen of the United States."
https://constitution.congress.gov/brows ... _00000812/
Wasn't he supposed to be "God's man for the hour"? The new King Cyrus?
You'd have to ask these guys:I would need to see chapter and verse on that.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/201 ... e67abc0000
That was a bipartisan effort.I can't speak about the law in this matter, but even the democrats admit that the law was ambiguous, so the rewrote the law to explicitly make the role of the VP a ceremonial function.
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump ... 1eecbfc158
Doesn't that feel a bit paranoid? That's the thing about letting suspicion get hold of you; it drags you further and further along, rendering you less and less capable of thinking objectively.It seems to me that the thing about Pence, is that his role as VP was to spy out the inner most thoughts of Trump and report it to the people that actually run the government as well as leaking to the press.
And he still doesn't understand that you can't issue an executive order ending constitutional birthright citizenship?
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.You are right. He can't end something that never existed. There is no birthright citizenship in the constitution. Read it again.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Based on the first sentence of Section 1, the Court has held that a child born in the United States of Chinese parents who were ineligible to be naturalized themselves is nevertheless a citizen of the United States entitled to all the rights and privileges of citizenship. The requirement that a person be subject to the jurisdiction thereof, however, excludes its application to children born of diplomatic representatives of a foreign state, children born of alien enemies in hostile occupation, or children of members of Indian tribes subject to tribal laws. In addition, the citizenship of children born on vessels in United States territorial waters or on the high seas has generally been held by the lower courts to be determined by the citizenship of the parents. Citizens of the United States within the meaning of this Amendment must be natural and not artificial persons; a corporate body is not a citizen of the United States."
https://constitution.congress.gov/brows ... _00000812/
I did listen. Starting at 37:48 he states that he wants to find the 11,780 votes which would have put him one vote over Biden in Georgia. Throughout the call he makes numerous claims of fraudulent activity without naming any sources or presenting evidence, and is asked repeatedly for information which he had not provided. It's all in the transcript.That was fake news. Almost everything the fake news said about him was fake news. Listen to the phone call again.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/grabien-news/And organizations like US AID made sure that the people would believe the lie. They were so good at maintaining the lie that even Obama repeated it many times even 8 years after the fraud began.
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Post #25In that example, who are you to accuse the gift/giver of being evil?MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 8:58 pm All giving is good, giving that is not good is not giving.
Circular reasoning works because circular reasoning works.
And she did say she was going to buy food for her children, who am I to accuse her of lying?
Yet another clear example of how tightfisted hands can justify themselves...... You don't seem to understand how the gift is good.
Yet another example of how a well fed rich woman could keep her funds to herself. 'Look at that situation! See? That's why I don't give!'US AID has done many bad things with their money for example there was some money that had been earmarked for humanitarian aid in Pakistan that they used to make a special version of Twitter for Cuba which was intended to destabalize the island for a coup.
Wrong! I don't believe in any Hell, nor the devil, nor evil.I agree with you and that old saying that "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" and more recently, virtue signaling.
Your sins? If you say so.I belong to the one who laid down his life to redeem me from my sins. I certainly don't brlong to a building or even a denomination. My church is a group of like minded belivers that I have felowship with.
So your group has no name...fair enough.
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Post #26Not at all, have you not noticed that even the wildest conspiracy theories put forth by the likes of Alex Jones et al are proving to be true. The left has put their propaganda machine on full panic mode, so now is the time to just go in and see what they have been up to, and the more they protest about the investigations the more confident you can be that we are on to something criminal.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:48 pm [Replying to MilesJBennell in post #22]Doesn't that feel a bit paranoid? That's the thing about letting suspicion get hold of you; it drags you further and further along, rendering you less and less capable of thinking objectively.MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:33 pm It seems to me that the thing about Pence, is that his role as VP was to spy out the inner most thoughts of Trump and report it to the people that actually run the government as well as leaking to the press.
If the intent was birthright citizenship as you hold, then they would not have needed the part in bold. Those six words were put there to exclude certain people. A common example would be like the diplomat from Denmark, we would not want to grant citizenship to her children because diplomat kids tend to be undesirable, but the Mexican gang member selling fentanyl, we would want to grant citizenship to his children so that those kids could petition their parents to come to America as drug dealers are desirable.MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 2:33 pm All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
Is that in agreement with your understanding of that clause?
Now if this drug lord had been granted a green card when he enters the US then he would be under the jurisdiction of the US, then his children would be citizens if born in the U S A. That would be fine with me. If I am not mistaken there is a condition for green card holders that if they commit a felony then the green card is revoked and a permanent deportation follows.
The reason that Trump issued his EO on this is just to challenge it in court. As it stands congress has the authority to set immigration policy so he does not need to take it to court, just have congress rewrite the law. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4
50,000 fraudulent votes at 1:56Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:48 pmI did listen. Starting at 37:48 he states that he wants to find the 11,780 votes which would have put him one vote over Biden in Georgia. Throughout the call he makes numerous claims of fraudulent activity without naming any sources or presenting evidence, and is asked repeatedly for information which he had not provided. It's all in the transcript.
4,502 fraudulent votes at 3:13
18,325 fraudulent votes at 3:47
904 fraudulent votes at 3:47
18,000 fraudulent votes at 4:15
4,925 fraudulent votes at 5:56
2,326 fraudulent votes at 6:10
5,000 fraudulent votes at 8:42
300,000 fraudulent votes at 9:04
total 403,982 fraudulent votes, so in a close election that separates the two candidates by 11,779 votes it makes no sense to decide the election on an error rate 34 times the margin of victory.
29:59 GA explains how it was a good idea to shred old ballots from previous elections as they are trying to avoid a scandal in the hotly debated current election.
And GA kept an eagle eye on the Dominion machines, so they know that none of the machines were removed or parts swapped out of them, but they provide no evidence. Just trust me bro.
32:18 GA forbids any signature verification.
40:57 100% of military ballots goes to Biden. GA just denies without any evidence.
It was not Trump who was not naming sources, it was GA, they just kept saying that is not true our people checked it, take our word for it. We can't show you any evidence because that would be illegal. The Trump side did agree to meet with GA to talk about the numbers in more detail but GA just said those are the numbers and we are sticking to them.
The whole hour is a very legitimate negotiation between two parties trying to settle a dispute. So where is the crime? There is none, but that did not stop the fake news from trying to present it as if it was a criminal act and the law-fare was launched.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/grabien-news/Athetotheist wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 9:48 pmAnd organizations like US AID made sure that the people would believe the lie. They were so good at maintaining the lie that even Obama repeated it many times even 8 years after the fraud began.
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What are you saying? Your fact check has nothing to do with Obama. Are you saing that Grabien altered or created the Obama clip with AI?
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Post #27I should hope so. Never give money to any aid organization without a lot of research as to their honesty, they may not all be working for the CIA or just plain scams, but I don't know of any that are honest. If I feel the need to help out, I do so with the people in the neighborhood. That way 100% gets to the intended person. And it is not just money, mowing laws and home repairs are a good way to care for the elderly who can't afford to hire someone.
Remember the Caravans from Mexico, who do you think funded that? It was NGOs like US AID and Lutheran, Catholic and Jewish aid organizations. It takes a lot of money to feed, clothe and house a big caravan like that. Do you think that it is moral to give these people hope of a better life in America only to be sent back as an illegal alien. If they really wanted to help them, they would be helped more and with less money at home. If these people really want to come to America then go to the American Embassy and apply there.
Remember the summer of 'LOVE', mostly peaceful but fiery protests? That had the fingerprints of US AID all over it, do you think it is good giving to use American taxpayer money to burn down our cities and stir up racial hatred? All giving is not good.
I find the best explanation for the continuity of evil in all of human history to be an active intelligence like the devil.
In the future we may find ourselves in hell, then we will know it is real. Not a good thing to find out.
In the future we may find ourselves in a virtual world and find out that we were just characters in some sort of simulation. To me that would be hell.
In the future we will never find out that we went to sleep, with no dreams, forever.
Can you think of any other possibilities?
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Post #28What's the wildest Alex Jones conspiracy theory that proved true?MilesJBennell wrote: ↑Mon Feb 10, 2025 7:42 amNot at all, have you not noticed that even the wildest conspiracy theories put forth by the likes of Alex Jones et al are proving to be true.
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Post #29Alex is hard to watch because he has an abrasive personality, but he does a lot of research and a lot of it turns out to be good leads. It is hard to find his stuff because of the heavy shadow banning that he is under, and they would not do that if they were not afraid of him.
He did a story about Atrazine that was 'transing the frogs', the fake news ridiculed him for it because they get a lot of money from the herbicide industry. Atrazine is used in the US, but it is banned in the sane world.
He was the first source that I heard about Epstein.
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Post #30[Replying to MilesJBennell in post #26]
4,502 fraudulent votes claimed at 3:13
18,325 fraudulent votes claimed at 3:47
904 fraudulent votes claimed at 3:47
18,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 4:15
4,925 fraudulent votes claimed at 5:56
2,326 fraudulent votes claimed at 6:10
5,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 8:42
300,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 9:04
total 403,982 fraudulent votes claimed
Are any specific sources cited for any of these claims?
From the Georgia Secretary of State Office of Investigations:
INVESTIGATIVE FINDINGS:
Teams of investigators from the FBI, GBI, and Georgia SOS conducted independent and simultaneous interviews of Fulton County employees who were involved in the processing and scanning of absentee ballots at State Farm Arena on election night in November 2020. All employees interviewed provided a consistent account regarding how absentee ballots were processed and scanned that evening. Additionally, no one had any knowledge of observers, poll watchers, or the media being told they had to leave. Two poll watchers who identified themselves as members of the Georgia Republican Party had submitted affidavits as to what they observed on election night. Much of what they reported was consistent with what was reported by the Fulton County elections employees. Additionally, the Fulton County elections employees’ accounts were consistent with the actions observed on the video surveillance footage. Both poll watchers confirmed that no one was told or instructed to leave State Farm Arena.
Furthermore, Investigators from three law enforcement agencies reviewed the entire unedited video footage of the events in question surrounding Freeman and Moss at State Farm Arena. There was no evidence of any type of fraud as alleged. Fulton County Board of Elections and Registration put specific processes in place to store ballot boxes underneath tables and to have them in a certain order to monitor and track ballots during the tabulation process so election ROI: Fulton County-Poll Worker Fraud SEB2020-059 Page 10 workers would know where to begin the next day. No evidence was provided to show that Freeman or Moss deviated from that established process. The initial tabulation, the statewide audit involving a manual hand count of every ballot, and the machine recount reveal there was no evidence to suggest fraudulent ballots were scanned and counted in the final tabulated results for the November 2020 General Election in Fulton County.
Lastly, the FBI identified and interviewed the true creator of the Instagram account that reportedly contained a post by Freeman admitting she conspired to adversely affect the November 2020 election. The account creator admitted he created the fake account and confirmed the content that was posted on the account was fake.
All allegations made against Freeman and Moss were unsubstantiated and found to have no merit.
POTENTIAL VIOLATION(S): The investigation did not uncover any violations.
So it's more complicated than just saying that Georgia denied everything. Even the FBI was involved in that investigation, so if you still want to believe that there was a cover-up of shady activity you have to cast your net even wider. That's the problem with conspiracy rumors (I don't dignify them with the designation "theories")----when they come up short, those who push them have to keep expanding the web of suspicion more and more to keep you buying into the narrative.
Alex Jones pushed the belief that the Sandy Hook massacre was a hoax. If that was true, why did affected families end up winning nearly $1.3 billion in Connecticut courts and $50 million in Texas courts from Jones?have you not noticed that even the wildest conspiracy theories put forth by the likes of Alex Jones et al are proving to be true.
I was quoting a government source which explains how the courts have ruled. They clearly do recognize birthright citizenship, as illustrated in the example of the Chinese child born in the US.If the intent was birthright citizenship as you hold, then they would not have needed the part in bold.
Criminal activity is a separate issue which the courts would deal with on its own grounds.A common example would be like the diplomat from Denmark, we would not want to grant citizenship to her children because diplomat kids tend to be undesirable, but the Mexican gang member selling fentanyl, we would want to grant citizenship to his children so that those kids could petition their parents to come to America as drug dealers are desirable.
Is that in agreement with your understanding of that clause?
50,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 1:5650,000 fraudulent votes at 1:56
4,502 fraudulent votes at 3:13
18,325 fraudulent votes at 3:47
904 fraudulent votes at 3:47
18,000 fraudulent votes at 4:15
4,925 fraudulent votes at 5:56
2,326 fraudulent votes at 6:10
5,000 fraudulent votes at 8:42
300,000 fraudulent votes at 9:04
total 403,982 fraudulent votes
4,502 fraudulent votes claimed at 3:13
18,325 fraudulent votes claimed at 3:47
904 fraudulent votes claimed at 3:47
18,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 4:15
4,925 fraudulent votes claimed at 5:56
2,326 fraudulent votes claimed at 6:10
5,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 8:42
300,000 fraudulent votes claimed at 9:04
total 403,982 fraudulent votes claimed
Are any specific sources cited for any of these claims?
The burden of proof isn't on them.40:57 100% of military ballots goes to Biden. GA just denies without any evidence.
From the Georgia Secretary of State Office of Investigations:
INVESTIGATIVE FINDINGS:
Teams of investigators from the FBI, GBI, and Georgia SOS conducted independent and simultaneous interviews of Fulton County employees who were involved in the processing and scanning of absentee ballots at State Farm Arena on election night in November 2020. All employees interviewed provided a consistent account regarding how absentee ballots were processed and scanned that evening. Additionally, no one had any knowledge of observers, poll watchers, or the media being told they had to leave. Two poll watchers who identified themselves as members of the Georgia Republican Party had submitted affidavits as to what they observed on election night. Much of what they reported was consistent with what was reported by the Fulton County elections employees. Additionally, the Fulton County elections employees’ accounts were consistent with the actions observed on the video surveillance footage. Both poll watchers confirmed that no one was told or instructed to leave State Farm Arena.
Furthermore, Investigators from three law enforcement agencies reviewed the entire unedited video footage of the events in question surrounding Freeman and Moss at State Farm Arena. There was no evidence of any type of fraud as alleged. Fulton County Board of Elections and Registration put specific processes in place to store ballot boxes underneath tables and to have them in a certain order to monitor and track ballots during the tabulation process so election ROI: Fulton County-Poll Worker Fraud SEB2020-059 Page 10 workers would know where to begin the next day. No evidence was provided to show that Freeman or Moss deviated from that established process. The initial tabulation, the statewide audit involving a manual hand count of every ballot, and the machine recount reveal there was no evidence to suggest fraudulent ballots were scanned and counted in the final tabulated results for the November 2020 General Election in Fulton County.
Lastly, the FBI identified and interviewed the true creator of the Instagram account that reportedly contained a post by Freeman admitting she conspired to adversely affect the November 2020 election. The account creator admitted he created the fake account and confirmed the content that was posted on the account was fake.
All allegations made against Freeman and Moss were unsubstantiated and found to have no merit.
POTENTIAL VIOLATION(S): The investigation did not uncover any violations.
So it's more complicated than just saying that Georgia denied everything. Even the FBI was involved in that investigation, so if you still want to believe that there was a cover-up of shady activity you have to cast your net even wider. That's the problem with conspiracy rumors (I don't dignify them with the designation "theories")----when they come up short, those who push them have to keep expanding the web of suspicion more and more to keep you buying into the narrative.
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/grabien-news/And organizations like US AID made sure that the people would believe the lie. They were so good at maintaining the lie that even Obama repeated it many times even 8 years after the fraud began.
I'm pointing out that a fact-checking organization has found Grabien to be mixed in its reporting and to lean to the Right.What are you saying? Your fact check has nothing to do with Obama. Are you saing that Grabien altered or created the Obama clip with AI?
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