A Higher Being: Is It Logical?

[Kuan]

Very simple question, almost impossible to answer.

Is it logical to believe in a higher being? If it is not a logical option, why?

[sleepyhead]

Very simple question, almost impossible to answer.

Is it logical to believe in a higher being? If it is not a logical option, why?

Hello mormonboy,

When we eat our body figures out where everything should go. When we cut ourselves our bodies figure out how to repair the damage. They do this without any input from our conscious mind. They know how to do things that we don't. It is therefore logical to believe that there is a higher (????) within each of us.

[Kuan]

Very simple question, almost impossible to answer.

Is it logical to believe in a higher being? If it is not a logical option, why?

Hello mormonboy,

When we eat our body figures out where everything should go. When we cut ourselves our bodies figure out how to repair the damage. They do this without any input from our conscious mind. They know how to do things that we don't. It is therefore logical to believe that there is a higher (????) within each of us.

Yes, one could conclude that there is some type of spirit or soul within. Does this view I have seem far out there?

[McCulloch]

What is it that you mean by soul or spirit? Our digestive system and bodily repair systems, which are shared to a great degree with other biological organisms are adequately explained by biology. What is the need to postulate some non-physical entity to explain this physical phenomenon? Cue William of Ockham.

[Kuan]

What is it that you mean by soul or spirit? Our digestive system and bodily repair systems, which are shared to a great degree with other biological organisms are adequately explained by biology. What is the need to postulate some non-physical entity to explain this physical phenomenon? Cue William of Ockham.

Yes it is adequately explained by biology, but it still leads me to wonder how we are able to interact. It explains how our bodies work but we are alive, to me, there is a possibility of something inside us that biology hasnt yet found, maybe never will. Why are we conscious (I guess) is what I am trying to say.

[McCulloch]

Mormon boy51, you are getting me confused. Just a few posts back, we were discussing digestion and blood clotting and you suggested that perhaps soul or spirit is behind those things. Now it is not those things which concern you but consciousness. OK, biology has not yet discovered the neurological basis for consciousness, but we know a whole lot more than we did a generation ago. I see no reason to use entities that we cannot adequately define and have no demonstrated existence (soul or spirit) to explain something that which we do know occurs (consciousness).

[Kuan]

Mormon boy51, you are getting me confused.

Just imagine how confused I am right now....

Just a few posts back, we were discussing digestion and blood clotting and you suggested that perhaps soul or spirit is behind those things.

Yes, a soul or spirit could be what is driving the body tor repair itself.

Now it is not those things which concern you but consciousness. OK, biology has not yet discovered the neurological basis for consciousness, but we know a whole lot more than we did a generation ago.

Yes, we know a lot more but we still dont have an answer to this.

I see no reason to use entities that we cannot adequately define and have no demonstrated existence (soul or spirit) to explain something that which we do know occurs (consciousness).

I disagree, I have no problem with trying to explain consciousness with a idea of the soul or the spirit. The problem with defining it is because we cannot test it but we cannot test consciousness very much either.

[sleepyhead]

What is it that you mean by soul or spirit? Our digestive system and bodily repair systems, which are shared to a great degree with other biological organisms are adequately explained by biology. What is the need to postulate some non-physical entity to explain this physical phenomenon? Cue William of Ockham.

Hello McCulloch,

A while ago I was watching a science show on pbs. Alan alda was the star. They were doing stuff with bees. Apparently at birth they can communicate with each other. It isn't really a developed language but merely that there able to tell each other where food is located. Whether this has all been explained by biology is not necesarily significant. What is important is that there is something within us that can provide quidance with regards to our interaction with other members of our species. Personally I have had some very significant dreams which provided quidance to me with regards to both my interaction with others aqnd also health matters.

[sickles]

Very simple question, almost impossible to answer.

Is it logical to believe in a higher being? If it is not a logical option, why?

what do you mean higher being? do you mean a godlike entity? If you mean a godlike entity I would say no, sir. I would say that the very idea of a godlike entity is a non starter , because such an idea only exists in the mind of man. And you cannot find that idea anywhere else in the universe except in our thoughts. And if you ask is belief in such a thing logical, i would say no, because if it exists only in human thought, it is imperfect , because human thought is imperfect.

[Filthy Tugboat]

Very simple question, almost impossible to answer.

Is it logical to believe in a higher being? If it is not a logical option, why?

Hello mormonboy,

When we eat our body figures out where everything should go. When we cut ourselves our bodies figure out how to repair the damage. They do this without any input from our conscious mind. They know how to do things that we don't. It is therefore logical to believe that there is a higher (????) within each of us.

By (????) do you mean biological function?

[sleepyhead]

Very simple question, almost impossible to answer.

Is it logical to believe in a higher being? If it is not a logical option, why?

Hello mormonboy,

When we eat our body figures out where everything should go. When we cut ourselves our bodies figure out how to repair the damage. They do this without any input from our conscious mind. They know how to do things that we don't. It is therefore logical to believe that there is a higher (????) within each of us.

By (????) do you mean biological function?

Hello filthy tugboat,

We (those in my belief system) refer to God as the creative force. I didn't want to define God as a being, or take away from the thread by redefining God so I replaced being with ????.