Anti-Semitism and time travel

[RobertUrbanek]

Anti-Semitism may be the residue of a previous timeline in which Jews did rule the world and Gentiles were confined to impoverished ghettos, much like the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. Renegade scientists created a time machine to allow them to go back and change history. Two of those time travelers, Jesus and Hitler, were somewhat successful in preventing Jewish domination.

If you wish to consider time as being non-linear, like the surface of a donut, then effect can precede cause. Backed into a corner in a conventional war, Israel may use nuclear weapons that kill six million Muslims. Thus, the Holocaust was a punishment in the past for what the Jews would do in the future.

[cnorman18]

Why you think Iran would likes to attack to Israel!??

I actually never said that. I said that that scenario was as credible as Urbanek's fantasy scenario.

To Darias: very well said. I agree on all counts, particularly on support of Netanyahu and his counterproductive (to say the least) policies -- though I am not sure that Israel possesses "hundreds" of nuclear weapons. A few dozen, certainly, but -- hundreds?

Not that it matters much. As some U. S. President once observed, "The Soviet Union has enough nuclear weapons to drop the equivalent of (x) tons of TNT on the head of every man, woman and child in the United States. The United States has enough nuclear weapons to drop (2x) tons of TNT on the head of every man, woman and child in the Soviet Union.... But under most circumstances, the average person wouldn't be able to tell the difference."

I doubt any country that has the rational self-interest to arm itself with nuclear weapons would stop with 24, but there is evidence it has increased its stockpile. The problem is no one really knows because it doesn't subject itself to IAEA inspections, as it expects Iran to do.

Outside of the Israeli defense ministry, very few people know precisely how many nuclear-armed missiles the country has. According to a non-classified 1999 estimate from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, which was cited in a 2007 bulletin from the Federation of American Scientists, Israel had between sixty and eighty nuclear warheads. More recent estimates say the figure is considerably higher.

The London-based Institute of Strategic Studies says Israel has up to 200 warheads loaded on land-based Jericho 1 and Jericho 2 short- and medium-range missiles. Janes, the defense-information company, estimates that the over-all number of warheads is between a hundred and three hundred, which puts the Israeli nuclear arsenal roughly on a par with the British and French capabilities. And some of these warheads are widely believed to have been loaded onto the new Jericho 3 intercontinental ballistic missile, which has a range of up to four thousand five hundred miles"meaning it could theoretically strike targets in Europe and Asia.

And unlike Iran, Israel has been known to preemptively strike perceived threats, as was the case in Iraq. In terms of foreign policy, Israel is the US of the Middle East and surrounding nations are in their right to worry about Israel's next step. The possibility that Israel will strike Iran is infinitely greater than an imagined Iranian nuclear strike. If Iran retaliates such a strike, Israel's next move might be to deploy a few dozen of it's nuclear weapons -- or at least threaten to use them to prevent a counterstrike from occurring (After all, it has plenty to spare).

I worry about the safety of Israel with Netanyahu at the helm. Israel doesn't need a war with Iran and neither do we.

Interesting material here. And I stand corrected (possibly). Thank you.

Once again, I agree about Netanyahu. Whoever succeeds him should begin (that is, BEGIN) with an end to the provocative building programs in the West Bank and immediately begin evacuation and dismantling of the illegal "settlements" as a first gesture of good faith. An appropriate response might be a real attempt to end the terror campaign. With those two gestures as a beginning, perhaps then some progress could be made toward a realistic, workable two-state solution.

I have long said that the FIRST step ought to be an end to terror; as some might notice here, that position has changed. Israel should make the first move, and I think an end to the illegal settlements is it.

[Yusef]

Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, agrees that Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as, "the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem

Who the imam is??
We are Shi'ah and just followers of The Twelver Imams(God's Peace Be upon them), those who learned the real Islam.
Which one of them(a.s.) has told us that: You should destroy Isra'il?? and or any other nation??

..(een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods)(bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)

een= This ; rezhim-e= regime-of ; eshghalgar= occupier ; qods= palestine ; bayad= must ; az= from ; saf'he-ye= page-of ; ruzgar= lifetime ; mahv= vanish/wipe/clean/delete/disappearance ; shavad= does

I also don't care what the Shia doctrine of Sharia is because actions of governments are not always in accordance with scripture.

Yes of course.
But we Iranians claim that We are Shi'ah means the followers of the Twelver Imams(a.s.)
and Imams(a.s.) have told us that: "..since after the time of The Prophet(s.a.) the time that usurped the Ali's Right, since the same time will never make any right government but the government of The Mahdi(a.s.) and everybody claim that he mights to make a right government, Know! he is just a liar!.."
also have said: "..You mustn't arise so long as we, each one of us[12 Imams] hasn't arise.."
and too much Ahadith that don't allow us to arise. as or attack!!

These are cause of the Shi'ah doctrines which are real following of Qur'an.

But those are non-Shi'ah who You should afraid of them for


I wrote that there is no any worry about Iran about attack to anywhere.

[Yusef]

Juan Cole, a University of Michigan Professor of Modern Middle East and South Asian History, agrees that Ahmadinejad's statement should be translated as, "the Imam said that this regime occupying Jerusalem

Who the imam is??
We are Shi'ah and just followers of The Twelver Imams(God's Peace Be upon them), those who learned the real Islam.
Which one of them(a.s.) has told us that: You should destroy Isra'il?? and or any other nation??

..(een rezhim-e eshghalgar-e qods)(bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad)

een= This ; rezhim-e= regime-of ; eshghalgar= occupier ; qods= palestine ; bayad= must ; az= from ; saf'he-ye= page-of ; ruzgar= lifetime ; mahv= vanish/wipe/clean/delete/disappearance ; shavad= does

I also don't care what the Shia doctrine of Sharia is because actions of governments are not always in accordance with scripture.

Yes of course.
But we Iranians claim that We are Shi'ah means the followers of the Twelver Imams(a.s.)
and Imams(a.s.) have told us that: "..since after the time of The Prophet(s.a.) the time that usurped the Ali's Right, since the same time will never make any right government but the government of The Mahdi(a.s.) and everybody claim that he mights to make a right government, Know! he is just a liar!.."
also have said: "..You mustn't arise so long as we, each one of us[12 Imams] hasn't arise.."
"..and each one of us arises, you should going to help him even if through crawling on the snows!"
and too much Ahadith that don't allow us to arise. as or attack!!

These are cause of the Shi'ah doctrines which are real following of Qur'an.

But those are non-Shi'ah who You should afraid of them for the nuclear weapons.
Because they claimed that "We don't need to any Imam/Leader/Book but The Prophet(s.a.) and Qur'an. And Qur'an enough for us"
So, Somewhere of Qur'an exist that say: "Kill unbelievers, kill them, kill them"
E.g, "And fight them until there is no fitnah and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah . And if they cease - then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do."[8:39].

But our leaders, The Imams(a.s.) have learned us that some Ayat(Verses) are for the future for the times of The Saviour

Well, I have a question for Sunnies, Why they don't kill Chinese and Japanese and every non-believer!!?? as Taliban do!?

I wrote that there is no any worry about Iran about attack to anywhere.
and Imam Khomeini, Khameneii, and Mr. Ahmadinejad said a thing and you shouldn't worry for that..
But you should be worry for defensive Iranians seriously anyhow!
I love them all three. but it no means that I agree/accept them anyhow.
Just I love their personality themselves. no their governments.