Non-Circular reasons for believing in the Bible.

[help3434]

I often see people quote Bible verses about scripture when asked why they believe in the Bible. Of course arguing that the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true is circular. Are there any non-circular reasons for believing in the Bible?

[Nickman]

[Replying to post 6 by marketandchurch]

The Israelites also sacrificed animals and on occasion humans to god. God required animal sacrifice. How is this so brilliant. Most cultures did this to appease the wrath of their deity. It is a guilt ridden ideology requiring atonement. It oppresses humans. How is that brilliant? Or inspiring?

[Nickman]

Marketand Church must not realize that a firmament was created by god that covered the earth. It was a dome that the ancients all had in their flat earth cosmologies. It held water above it. Thats why the sky was blue. Nothing unique with the bible here.

[Nickman]

At the OP. Non-circular reasons? Thats tough. I don't know of any. I will keep an eye on this forum for one.

[1213]

I often see people quote Bible verses about scripture when asked why they believe in the Bible. Of course arguing that the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true is circular. Are there any non-circular reasons for believing in the Bible?

I believe it, because it seems to be correct about anything that is says. And to that people can say that it is only my subjective opinion. And to that I would say, can people have anything more than subjective opinion about things.

[help3434]

[Replying to post 14 by 1213]

What do you mean correct? What about the fact that it contradicts itself and science? What about the fact that it depicts God commanding horrible things like committing genocide?

[Jacob Simonsky]

I often see people quote Bible verses about scripture when asked why they believe in the Bible. Of course arguing that the Bible is true because the Bible says it is true is circular. Are there any non-circular reasons for believing in the Bible?

If what the Bible says "rings true" then believe it but be aware of the fact that the truth of today will be someday be replaced by newer truths. Does this apply to scripture? Sure it does. Any cleric will admit that "not all is revealed". This statement alone should affirm what I claim in my first sentence. When the kingdom of G-d finally arrives we will witness a greatly expanded gospel to be sure. In the meanwhile the sources of the Bible are all that we have. It is enough. Or is it? Be careful to read what ALL of Christ's disciples had to say and not just the four that were selected and anointed by the Emperor Constantine. Christ selected twelve followers for good reason. Yes. Even Judas Iscariot left us a gospel before he did as he was bid by G-d. He did not select four only as we seem inclined to believe.

Shalom

[aglassdarkly]

Because the more I read and study it, and the more I compare it to what everyone else was thinking at the time, and even when I compare it to today... it seems to me to have no equal.

Absolutely.

The Bible presents a worldview. That worldview answers all my questions.

[Dantalion]

Because the more I read and study it, and the more I compare it to what everyone else was thinking at the time, and even when I compare it to today... it seems to me to have no equal.

Absolutely.

The Bible presents a worldview. That worldview answers all my questions.

Why is it that in topics like this, (bible validity) atheists come with actual arguments while theists can't be bothered to do that at all ?
This post for instance, as the one of 123, seem to just flat out ignore all arguments of the other side and just make blanket statements about how everything in the bible is true en they feel it answers all questions etc.
How about dealing with actual arguments for a change ?
(See the posts of Nickman, Tugboat, help 3434 and myself)

[Filthy Tugboat]

Because the more I read and study it, and the more I compare it to what everyone else was thinking at the time, and even when I compare it to today... it seems to me to have no equal.

Absolutely.

The Bible presents a worldview. That worldview answers all my questions.

Why is it that in topics like this, (bible validity) atheists come with actual. arguments while theists can't be bothered to do that at all ?
This post for instance, as the one of 123, seem to just flat out ignore all arguments of the other side and just make blanket statements about how everything in the bible is true en they feel it answers all questions etc.
How about dealing with actual arguments for a change ?
(See the posts of Nickman, Tugboat, help 3434 and myself)

Actually, I found Aglassdraky's response to be perfectly fine and in keeping with the topic/accurately answering the question. It is a non-circular reason for believing the Bible is true. It's honest and to the point, I couldn't ask for more from anyone.

[1213]

[Replying to post 14 by 1213]

What do you mean correct? What about the fact that it contradicts itself and science? What about the fact that it depicts God commanding horrible things like committing genocide?

If you believe the Bible, then you believe that life is from God. And if God is the one who gives life, I think he has all rights to decide how long it will last.

If you understand Bible correctly, it does not contradict itself. And those things that are contradiction with “science� are not really proven scientifically and therefore the contradiction is irrelevant.