Jesus is God - Jude - Michael does not rebuke Satan

[Wootah]

[onewithhim]

[Replying to Wootah in post #1]

Catholic art shows Michael fighting Satan.

The actual scripture says this: "When Michael the archangel had a difference with the Devil and was disputing about Moses' body, he did not dare to bring a judgment against him in abusive terms, but said: 'May the LORD [YHWH] rebuke you.'" (Jude 9)

It doesn't say that they were fighting. They just had a heavy conversation with different viewpoints.

Did JacksonDeville win? He had Catholic art as evidence.

Couldn't Catholic art be mistaken? They usually show Jesus with long hair, too, and he did not have long hair. They put him forever on a cross and even the pope carries him around on a staff. That is misleading because Jesus is no longer hanging dead on the "cross." He is alive in heaven now, getting ready to expose and to destroy all false religion and their lies.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Yes, Michael kicked Satan and his demons out of heaven down to the earth (Revelation 12:7-9) and he sure will fight him after the Millennial Reign.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Could it be that this Michael is Jesus that fights and defeat Satan in Revelation 12:7-8?

Yes, I believe that you are correct.

[Capbook]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Could it be that this Michael is Jesus that fights and defeat Satan in Revelation 12:7-8?

Yes, I believe that you are correct.

Thanks.
But can a man defeat Satan? This will also proves that Jesus is God.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Could it be that this Michael is Jesus that fights and defeat Satan in Revelation 12:7-8?

Yes, I believe that you are correct.

Michel is the resurrected Jesus, no longer a human but a mighty SPIRIT creature; and yes although not equal to ALMIGHTY God he (Jesus /Michel) is far more powerful than Satan and can and will DEFEAT (Satan) in their final confrontation.

Thanks.
But can a man defeat Satan? This will also proves that Jesus is God.

[Capbook]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Could it be that this Michael is Jesus that fights and defeat Satan in Revelation 12:7-8?

Yes, I believe that you are correct.

Michel is the resurrected Jesus, no longer a human but a mighty SPIRIT creature; and yes although not equal to ALMIGHTY God he (Jesus /Michel) is far more powerful than Satan and can and will DEFEAT (Satan) in their final confrontation.

Thanks.
But can a man defeat Satan? This will also proves that Jesus is God.

Where in the Bible that says Michael is the resurrected Jesus?
Acts 1:11 says that the same Jesus who is taken up from you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven.

[JehovahsWitness]

Where in the Bible that says Michael is the resurrected Jesus?
Acts 1:11 says that the same Jesus who is taken up from you into Heaven, will come in the way you have seen Him going into Heaven.

From the biblical description of Michel there is no other conclusion that can reasonably be made.



JW

[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #17]

Why not show the verses and the interpretation?

[onewithhim]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Could it be that this Michael is Jesus that fights and defeat Satan in Revelation 12:7-8?

Yes, I believe that you are correct.

Thanks.
But can a man defeat Satan? This will also proves that Jesus is God.

Please explain just HOW that proves that Jesus is God. I don't see it. (And what "man" are you talking about?)

[Capbook]

[Replying to onewithhim in post #5]

Revelation 12 has Michael fighting Satan so it sounds like he is able to fight him in end times

Could it be that this Michael is Jesus that fights and defeat Satan in Revelation 12:7-8?

Yes, I believe that you are correct.

Thanks.
But can a man defeat Satan? This will also proves that Jesus is God.

Please explain just HOW that proves that Jesus is God. I don't see it. (And what "man" are you talking about?)

Jesus pre-existence is equal with God, before taking the form of a man.

Php 2:6 Although he was in the form of God and equal with God, he did not take advantage of this equality.
Php 2:7 Instead, he emptied himself by taking on the form of a servant, by becoming like other humans, by having a human appearance.(GOD'S WORD)