I would very much like to get opinions on this subject. I'll provide several verses from the King James Version of the Bible, and I ask you to give me feed-back.
Jesus' words:
1) "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19)
2) "My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me." (John 7:16)
3) "Neither came I of myself, but he sent me." (John 8:42)
He replied, after the Pharisees accused him of making himself God:
4) "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the SON of God?" (John 10:36)
5) "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say....Whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." (John 12:49,50)
6) To his Father in prayer: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God , and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." (John 17:3)
7) "I ascend unto my Father, and your Father, and to my God, and your God." (John 20:17)
To John in the Revelation:
8) "Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God..." (Revelation 3:12)
Do these quotations show that Jesus was NOT God?
Do YOU believe that he claimed to be God?
JESUS IS NOT GOD
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1451Jesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1452Jesus is not the name of the Word. The Word is the name of the Word.JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
Jesus is the name of the Word made flesh.
The man Jesus did not exist until the Word was made flesh about 2024 years ago. Jesus was the resulting man created from the Word being made flesh.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1453This is incorrect, since you made the statement it is on you to prove it.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:27 pmJesus is not the name of the Word. The Word is the name of the Word.JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
The only people who give a lie any creditability are liars.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1454Rebuttal: The name of the Word changed to another name when He became flesh?myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:27 pmJesus is not the name of the Word. The Word is the name of the Word.JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
Jesus is the name of the Word made flesh.
True or false?
The only people who give a lie any creditability are liars.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1455Rebuttal: Here again you made another statement that I say you cannot prove.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:27 pmJumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
The man Jesus did not exist until the Word was made flesh about 2024 years ago. Jesus was the resulting man created from the Word being made flesh.
If you are going to debate using your own unproven assumptions then what is the point of your statements?
The only people who give a lie any creditability are liars.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1456Can you be more specific? What exactly are you referring to?JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:36 pmRebuttal: Here again you made another statement that I say you cannot prove.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:27 pmThey are separate beings. One is a physical fleshy body and one is an immortal spiritual body.JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
The man Jesus did not exist until the Word was made flesh about 2024 years ago. Jesus was the resulting man created from the Word being made flesh.
Do you accept that Jesus was born as a man in Bethlehem about 2024 years ago?
Do you accept that Jesus was the Word made flesh?
Do you accept that Jesus was a man?
Which one do I need to prove?
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False.JumpingJackFlash wrote:Rebuttal: The name of the Word changed to another name when He became flesh?
True or false?
The Word is a Spirit and existed as the Word since the beginning of everything.
Jesus was the name of the human resulting from the Word being made flesh about 2024 years ago.
One is immortal and one is mortal.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1457You contradict yourself so much it is even hard for me to keep up with them all.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:15 pmCan you be more specific? What exactly are you referring to?JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:36 pmRebuttal: Here again you made another statement that I say you cannot prove.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:27 pmThey are separate beings. One is a physical fleshy body and one is an immortal spiritual body.JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
The man Jesus did not exist until the Word was made flesh about 2024 years ago. Jesus was the resulting man created from the Word being made flesh.
Do you accept that Jesus was born as a man in Bethlehem about 2024 years ago?
Do you accept that Jesus was the Word made flesh?
Do you accept that Jesus was a man?
Which one do I need to prove?
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False.JumpingJackFlash wrote:Rebuttal: The name of the Word changed to another name when He became flesh?
True or false?
The Word is a Spirit and existed as the Word since the beginning of everything.
Jesus was the name of the human resulting from the Word being made flesh about 2024 years ago.
One is immortal and one is mortal.
Maybe this is a way for you to hide? And you never prove anything. Just add contradiction upon contradiction.
The only people who give a lie any creditability are liars.
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1458ALL OF THEM. EVERY STATEMENT YOU MAKE.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 7:15 pmCan you be more specific? What exactly are you referring to?JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:36 pmRebuttal: Here again you made another statement that I say you cannot prove.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:27 pmThey are separate beings. One is a physical fleshy body and one is an immortal spiritual body.JumpingJackFlash wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:09 pmJesus is the name of the Word, that came down from heaven and was made flesh. So yes, the Word made flesh became a man.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:32 pmGod inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
A Spirit within a man is still a man. So Jesus was a man.
The man Jesus did not exist until the Word was made flesh about 2024 years ago. Jesus was the resulting man created from the Word being made flesh.
Do you accept that Jesus was born as a man in Bethlehem about 2024 years ago?
Do you accept that Jesus was the Word made flesh?
Do you accept that Jesus was a man?
Which one do I need to prove?
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False.JumpingJackFlash wrote:Rebuttal: The name of the Word changed to another name when He became flesh?
True or false?
The Word is a Spirit and existed as the Word since the beginning of everything.
Jesus was the name of the human resulting from the Word being made flesh about 2024 years ago.
One is immortal and one is mortal.
START BY PROVING THE WORD
IS THE NAME OF THE WORD.
IF THE WORD IS THE NAME OF THE WORD
THEN GOD IS THE NAME OF GOD.
SEE HOW ABSURD THAT IS?
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Re: JESUS IS NOT GOD
Post #1459Myth-one.com wrote: Which one do I need to prove?
JumpingJackFlash wrote:ALL OF THEM.
OK.
1) Jesus was born as a man in Bethlehem about 2024 years ago:
Anno Domini or AD is Latin and means "in the year of the Lord ", which is used when referring to a year after Jesus Christ was born: WE are currently living in 2024 AD or 2024 years since the year in which Jesus was born.
2) Jesus was the Word made flesh:
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
3) Jesus was a man:
God inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
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Post #1460Now all you have to do is prove that the verses you used, proves what you claim.myth-one.com wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:06 pmMyth-one.com wrote: Which one do I need to prove?JumpingJackFlash wrote:ALL OF THEM.
OK.
1) Jesus was born as a man in Bethlehem about 2024 years ago:
Anno Domini or AD is Latin and means "in the year of the Lord ", which is used when referring to a year after Jesus Christ was born: WE are currently living in 2024 AD or 2024 years since the year in which Jesus was born.
2) Jesus was the Word made flesh:
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
3) Jesus was a man:
God inspired the scriptures:
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: (II Timothy 3:16)
God inspired Timothy to write that Jesus was a man:
1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Go for it I am waiting.
Try taking them one by one.
It gives you less words to hide in.
It forces you to stand right out in the open with no where to hide.
The only people who give a lie any creditability are liars.