Are there any new arguments for God?

[daedalus 2.0]

It seems all the arguments for God have been offered and answered. There are also arguments against God, which Theists have tried to answer. The atheists are clearly winning in the area of logic, reason and rationality.

I haven't seen a new argument for God in years and would love for someone to offer one.

[faith]

daedalus 2.0"]
Let's take one of them.

Do you agree or disagree that most people suffer in some way?

Or, lets use this: Do you agree or disagree that most people make mistakes?

I think you would say "yes", right?

OK, so the majority of people make mistakes or suffer in some way - does that make it the right thing to do?

Point is: The majority is a poor guide to see if something is right or not.

So why did you use any as a guide? I never brought the figures you did.
People suffering is not surveryed is it? Religion is about beliefs so not compatible.

I'm so glad you feel you so important to be a spokesperson for God and know what the right way is for everyone. I imagine you get miffed that the Pope thinks you're not a real Xian. I'll trust the Pope, since he has actually read the Bible in the original languages, not you. You are regurgitating propaganda.

Being a true descendant of Abraham and therefore more acceptable to the Jews and God than the pope. I think the pope is the one who needs to worry not me. Oh and the pope does not read the true scriptures of the TORAH in Hebrew it's original labguage. He reads it in latin. The only scriptures that Christ and the apostles ever used.

I once believed Santa was real, when I was little.

Never believed in Santa.

As you will now see I am not being argumentative or disengenous, I am simply pointing out that true Christianity is not a surface belief, but it is paramount the person is honest and that they seek truth. That this truth is not bore in the understanding and ways of men. The bible may be a sign post but the only true mark of a christian is the ability to live in truth and Spirit. We see that Christianity is the only religion based on love of God and others, that does not leave us to do that loving in our own power. But rather they that are true received the inner power and promise of God, the Holy Spirit as the first apostles did. That this power is not given in any other religion.

Love Faith.xx

How do you know you are right and not persuaded by Satan to think you are right? As I hear it, Satan is as powerful as God - at least, more powerful than you. You may say "God help me", but how do you know Satan isn't pretending to be God? Satan may pretend that love and obedience is the good thing to do, when the real God thinks otherwise?

You need your hearing checked. Satan is not as powerful as God. Are you sure you were a Christian? He is not more powerful than myself. either.

Matthew 28:18 (King James Version)
18.And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth
.
Luke 10:18-19. KJV.

18.And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

19.Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.


Did you not know that Satan is not like God. He is not in all places at once. So he has to roam the earth. He does not know our hearts or our thoughts and cannot tell what we are thinking. But God knows our every word, even before we utter it.(psalm 139)
Christ said if a Kingdom divides against itself it falls. So clearly Satan would not preach truth and love, would he?

The only thing you can say is: You have Faith in yourself to determine the truth, since you have to decide if Satan is talking or God. This means you have taken all the responsibility of determining truth, not God.

Not at all, John 16:13 (King James Version)
13.Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)
27.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

John 6:45 (King James Version)
45.It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Isaiah 54:13 (King James Version)
13.And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.


As you can see light and darkness cannot dwell in the same place. So I do not have to decide which is God or the Devil for God has promised us the true Spirit to lead and teach us. God keeps his promises.

Do you see? YOU have chosen your belief. (In fact, by your religion, you have free will and must freely choose your belief).

No! My belief is based in trust and truth that God is truth and he keeps his word for he cannot lie. I have free will but I am also quite an honest person. If the word does not do all it says then I would not be a believer. That is why we need to be honest and be truthful. So my faith is based on the fact it must produce the goods when it is followed.

How do you know you chose correctly? Satan may be playing a life-long trick on you that will only be revealed when you die - and trying to get you to convince other people, too.

This would require me to deceive myself and others. The promises of God are not as such that they allow for that to happen. If my faith in God did not do all he said it would, as I progress in my faith. I would never ever preach it to someone else. I can only speak from that which I have found to be true.

No thanks, I'll stay out of your and Satan's mind games. The Pope says you're not Xian. That's good enough for me.

The word says there is only one who makes us Gods children and that is the annointing of Gods Spirit. If the wheat and tares grow together till harvest as Christ says they will, (his return) how does that support the actions of a pope declaring the wheat from the tares. As a an ex-christian, even you, know I am right.

I am sorry if my belief has offended you in some way.

Love Faith.xx

[faith]

daedalus 2.0"]
Let's take one of them.

Do you agree or disagree that most people suffer in some way?

Or, lets use this: Do you agree or disagree that most people make mistakes?

I think you would say "yes", right?

OK, so the majority of people make mistakes or suffer in some way - does that make it the right thing to do?

Point is: The majority is a poor guide to see if something is right or not.

So why did you use any as a guide? I never brought the figures you did.
People suffering is not surveryed is it? Religion is about beliefs so not compatible.

I'm so glad you feel you so important to be a spokesperson for God and know what the right way is for everyone. I imagine you get miffed that the Pope thinks you're not a real Xian. I'll trust the Pope, since he has actually read the Bible in the original languages, not you. You are regurgitating propaganda.

Being a true descendant of Abraham and therefore more acceptable to the Jews and God than the pope. I think the pope is the one who needs to worry not me. Oh and the pope does not read the true scriptures of the TORAH in Hebrew it's original labguage. He reads it in latin. The only scriptures that Christ and the apostles ever used.

I once believed Santa was real, when I was little.

Never believed in Santa.

As you will now see I am not being argumentative or disengenous, I am simply pointing out that true Christianity is not a surface belief, but it is paramount the person is honest and that they seek truth. That this truth is not bore in the understanding and ways of men. The bible may be a sign post but the only true mark of a christian is the ability to live in truth and Spirit. We see that Christianity is the only religion based on love of God and others, that does not leave us to do that loving in our own power. But rather they that are true received the inner power and promise of God, the Holy Spirit as the first apostles did. That this power is not given in any other religion.

Love Faith.xx

How do you know you are right and not persuaded by Satan to think you are right? As I hear it, Satan is as powerful as God - at least, more powerful than you. You may say "God help me", but how do you know Satan isn't pretending to be God? Satan may pretend that love and obedience is the good thing to do, when the real God thinks otherwise?

You need your hearing checked. Satan is not as powerful as God. Are you sure you were a Christian? He is not more powerful than myself. either.

Matthew 28:18 (King James Version)
18.And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth
.
Luke 10:18-19. KJV.

18.And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

19.Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.


Did you not know that Satan is not like God. He is not in all places at once. So he has to roam the earth. He does not know our hearts or our thoughts and cannot tell what we are thinking. But God knows our every word, even before we utter it.(psalm 139)
Christ said if a Kingdom divides against itself it falls. So clearly Satan would not preach truth and love, would he?

The only thing you can say is: You have Faith in yourself to determine the truth, since you have to decide if Satan is talking or God. This means you have taken all the responsibility of determining truth, not God.

Not at all, John 16:13 (King James Version)
13.Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)
27.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

John 6:45 (King James Version)
45.It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Isaiah 54:13 (King James Version)
13.And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.


As you can see light and darkness cannot dwell in the same place. So I do not have to decide which is God or the Devil for God has promised us the true Spirit to lead and teach us. God keeps his promises.

Do you see? YOU have chosen your belief. (In fact, by your religion, you have free will and must freely choose your belief).

No! My belief is based in trust and truth that God is truth and he keeps his word for he cannot lie. I have free will but I am also quite an honest person. If the word does not do all it says then I would not be a believer. That is why we need to be honest and be truthful. So my faith is based on the fact it must produce the goods when it is followed.

How do you know you chose correctly? Satan may be playing a life-long trick on you that will only be revealed when you die - and trying to get you to convince other people, too.

This would require me to deceive myself and others. The promises of God are not as such that they allow for that to happen. If my faith in God did not do all he said it would, as I progress in my faith. I would never ever preach it to someone else. I can only speak from that which I have found to be true.

No thanks, I'll stay out of your and Satan's mind games. The Pope says you're not Xian. That's good enough for me.

The word says there is only one who makes us Gods children and that is the annointing of Gods Spirit. If the wheat and tares grow together till harvest as Christ says they will, (his return) how does that support the actions of a pope declaring the wheat from the tares. As a an ex-christian, even you, know I am right.

I am sorry if my belief has offended you in some way.

Love Faith.xx

[daedalus 2.0]

You need your hearing checked. Satan is not as powerful as God. Are you sure you were a Christian? He is not more powerful than myself. either.

Matthew 28:18 (King James Version)
18.And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth
.
Luke 10:18-19. KJV.

18.And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

19.Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.


Did you not know that Satan is not like God. He is not in all places at once. So he has to roam the earth. He does not know our hearts or our thoughts and cannot tell what we are thinking. But God knows our every word, even before we utter it.(psalm 139)
Christ said if a Kingdom divides against itself it falls. So clearly Satan would not preach truth and love, would he?

Yes, this is exactly what I would write if I were Satan trying to get people to believe me. Don't you see, Satan has duped you into thinking the Bible is from God?

Not at all, John 16:13 (King James Version)
13.Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

1 John 2:27 (King James Version)
27.But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

John 6:45 (King James Version)
45.It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

Isaiah 54:13 (King James Version)
13.And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.


As you can see light and darkness cannot dwell in the same place. So I do not have to decide which is God or the Devil for God has promised us the true Spirit to lead and teach us. God keeps his promises.

Exactly what we would expect a deceiver to write. You think he's going to write "You better believe what I write, and not God!"

No, he'd write exactly what you just said. You just can't see the truth.

No! My belief is based in trust and truth that God is truth and he keeps his word for he cannot lie. I have free will but I am also quite an honest person. If the word does not do all it says then I would not be a believer. That is why we need to be honest and be truthful. So my faith is based on the fact it must produce the goods when it is followed.

...as written by Satan. Satan told the truth in the Garden of Eden, if you think he didn't then it still supports my assertion that the Bible was written by Satan.

This would require me to deceive myself and others.

BINGO!!!! Satan's plan is working!

The promises of God are not as such that they allow for that to happen. If my faith in God did not do all he said it would, as I progress in my faith. I would never ever preach it to someone else. I can only speak from that which I have found to be true.

But they aren't promises by God, they are by Satan and made true by Satan to deceive you..

The word says there is only one who makes us Gods children and that is the annointing of Gods Spirit. If the wheat and tares grow together till harvest as Christ says they will, (his return) how does that support the actions of a pope declaring the wheat from the tares. As a an ex-christian, even you, know I am right.

I am sorry if my belief has offended you in some way.

Love Faith.xx

As an ex-xian I know you are wrong. Which is why I am an ex-xian. I have broken the yoke and seduction of Satan and his Word. I encourage you to do the same before you send yourself to Hell for eternity.

Notice that Jesus has NOT come back? You can pretend he will for the rest of your life, just as people have for 2000 years, but in the end he won't and you will have been deceived by Satan and spend eternity in Hell.

Think about it - why would God, the real God, leave a Book and not speak to you directly? Books are known to change convictions and be used as propaganda. This is what Satan wants. As a very powerful Being (equal and opposite to God in every way) he can make things to appear Good, but are really Evil.

You know this in your heart. Why did he make God seem so evil in the OT and then change his idea? Because it works better the new way. It gets Satan more souls for the fire.



I'm only telling you this to save you.

[faith]

daedalus 2.0"


Yes, this is exactly what I would write if I were Satan trying to get people to believe me. Don't you see, Satan has duped you into thinking the Bible is from God?

Your a typical WUM. If your an atheist how can you argue Satan exists?

Exactly what we would expect a deceiver to write. You think he's going to write "You better believe what I write, and not God!"

Now you have to explain the logic behind what you have said. I don't envy you at this point. Now you have prove and explain what you say above.

No, he'd write exactly what you just said. You just can't see the truth.

Why would he write something that would ultimately make us nice people who love God and each other. How do you perceive that as wrong?

as written by Satan. Satan told the truth in the Garden of Eden, if you think he didn't then it still supports my assertion that the Bible was written by Satan.

Well you still have to explain why if the bible was, how it shows us to live in a godly and loving fashion. The argument does not support the contents.

BINGO!!!! Satan's plan is working!

Even bigger WUM I have already said I would not deceive myself or others, so now your really stuck..... You will need more than shovel to dig your way out of this one.

But they aren't promises by God, they are by Satan and made true by Satan to deceive you..

For what purpose? To make me good?

As an ex-xian I know you are wrong. Which is why I am an ex-xian. I have broken the yoke and seduction of Satan and his Word. I encourage you to do the same before you send yourself to Hell for eternity.

It keeps on getting better. Didn't Satan deceive you when you turned away? What would I be going to hell for? That is the crux's of the matter.

Notice that Jesus has NOT come back? You can pretend he will for the rest of your life, just as people have for 2000 years, but in the end he won't and you will have been deceived by Satan and spend eternity in Hell.

You still having told me why I am going to hell? You thought of everything else but no reason for me going to hell. Christ will return but why do you have problems with what I believe and how can something you do not believe exists deceive me?

Think about it - why would God, the real God, leave a Book and not speak to you directly? Books are known to change convictions and be used as propaganda. This is what Satan wants. As a very powerful Being (equal and opposite to God in every way) he can make things to appear Good, but are really Evil.

So explain what is good and what is evil so we can discern the difference between what is good and what is evil.

You know this in your heart. Why did he make God seem so evil in the OT and then change his idea? Because it works better the new way. It gets Satan more souls for the fire.

But I don't think God is evil, I understand he is a being who is just and a good Father will chastise his child and keep him in on a right path.

Do you ever take anything seriously?

Love Faithxx



I'm only telling you this to save you.[/quote]

[daedalus 2.0]

Your a typical WUM. If your an atheist how can you argue Satan exists?

I don't believe Satan is a god. Just a superpowerful force. Atheists don't believe in gods, we may or may not believe in other things.

(And, btw, this is a debate site and philosophy section: we often take positions for the sake of argument. You should learn about debate).

Now you have to explain the logic behind what you have said. I don't envy you at this point. Now you have prove and explain what you say above.

It is self-evidence and God told me in a revelation.

Why would he write something that would ultimately make us nice people who love God and each other. How do you perceive that as wrong?

It's not wrong, that's what is so seductive about it. It's not about actions, its about Satan convincing you to worship the wrong God so you go to Hell. It makes it more evil for him to be 99% right - that 1% difference is what gets him souls.

BTW, I might add: are we nice people? There has been constant war and sin in the world since the beginning. Seems Satan is wining, not God.

Well you still have to explain why if the bible was, how it shows us to live in a godly and loving fashion. The argument does not support the contents.

I just did. Satan wrote it to be 99% right. Did you think Satan is so stupid that he would write it completely opposite of what God wants? We'd see through it immediately.

Even bigger WUM I have already said I would not deceive myself or others, so now your really stuck..... You will need more than shovel to dig your way out of this one.

You don't believe you are deceiving yourself and others, but you are.

For what purpose? To make me good?

Yes, but ultimately not praise the right God and go to Hell.

Hinduism and Buddhism make you good, but you will end up in Hell just the same.

It keeps on getting better. Didn't Satan deceive you when you turned away? What would I be going to hell for? That is the crux's of the matter.

No God told me to turn away from the evil of Satan and his lies. Laugh all you want... all the way to Hell.

You still having told me why I am going to hell? You thought of everything else but no reason for me going to hell. Christ will return but why do you have problems with what I believe and how can something you do not believe exists deceive me?

You are going to Hell because you follow the Bible and think it is the real Gods word. You have faith in Christ according to the Book written by Satan. You worship a false idol.

So explain what is good and what is evil so we can discern the difference between what is good and what is evil.

There is Good and Evil. God is Good, Satan is Evil. But Satan is like Hitler: he uses things that seem Good and Right to get you to follow him.

Hitler didn't tell people "OK, lets exterminate the Jews!" He talked about economic prosperity and equality and love, etc.

Satan knows what Good is - hence his ability to turn it into to ultimate Evil.

But I don't think God is evil, I understand he is a being who is just and a good Father will chastise his child and keep him in on a right path.

Right, but this is what Satan is telling you. you are right that God is Good and that he will keep you on the right path but you have to take responsibility and believe in Him, not the lies of Satan and the Bible. Believe in the True God, not Satan's lies. the Bible is a lie. You can only know God if he seeks you out and makes himself known, if He has not done this, you are condemned. But sometimes Satan seeks you out and sounds like God. You need God to know the difference.

Do you ever take anything seriously?

Yes.



(BTW, talking about contradictions:

You said God is everywhere and Satan cannot live in the light. Which is it? If the Light is everywhere, where does Satan live?

See what kind of lies Satan tells you?)

[faith]

Your a typical WUM. If your an atheist how can you argue Satan exists?

I don't believe Satan is a god. Just a superpowerful force. Atheists don't believe in gods, we may or may not believe in other things.

(And, btw, this is a debate site and philosophy section: we often take positions for the sake of argument. You should learn about debate).

Now you have to explain the logic behind what you have said. I don't envy you at this point. Now you have prove and explain what you say above.

It is self-evidence and God told me in a revelation.

Why would he write something that would ultimately make us nice people who love God and each other. How do you perceive that as wrong?

It's not wrong, that's what is so seductive about it. It's not about actions, its about Satan convincing you to worship the wrong God so you go to Hell. It makes it more evil for him to be 99% right - that 1% difference is what gets him souls.

BTW, I might add: are we nice people? There has been constant war and sin in the world since the beginning. Seems Satan is wining, not God.

Well you still have to explain why if the bible was, how it shows us to live in a godly and loving fashion. The argument does not support the contents.

I just did. Satan wrote it to be 99% right. Did you think Satan is so stupid that he would write it completely opposite of what God wants? We'd see through it immediately.

Even bigger WUM I have already said I would not deceive myself or others, so now your really stuck..... You will need more than shovel to dig your way out of this one.

You don't believe you are deceiving yourself and others, but you are.

For what purpose? To make me good?

Yes, but ultimately not praise the right God and go to Hell.

Hinduism and Buddhism make you good, but you will end up in Hell just the same.

It keeps on getting better. Didn't Satan deceive you when you turned away? What would I be going to hell for? That is the crux's of the matter.

No God told me to turn away from the evil of Satan and his lies. Laugh all you want... all the way to Hell.

You still having told me why I am going to hell? You thought of everything else but no reason for me going to hell. Christ will return but why do you have problems with what I believe and how can something you do not believe exists deceive me?

You are going to Hell because you follow the Bible and think it is the real Gods word. You have faith in Christ according to the Book written by Satan. You worship a false idol.

So explain what is good and what is evil so we can discern the difference between what is good and what is evil.

There is Good and Evil. God is Good, Satan is Evil. But Satan is like Hitler: he uses things that seem Good and Right to get you to follow him.

Hitler didn't tell people "OK, lets exterminate the Jews!" He talked about economic prosperity and equality and love, etc.

Satan knows what Good is - hence his ability to turn it into to ultimate Evil.

But I don't think God is evil, I understand he is a being who is just and a good Father will chastise his child and keep him in on a right path.

Right, but this is what Satan is telling you. you are right that God is Good and that he will keep you on the right path but you have to take responsibility and believe in Him, not the lies of Satan and the Bible. Believe in the True God, not Satan's lies. the Bible is a lie. You can only know God if he seeks you out and makes himself known, if He has not done this, you are condemned. But sometimes Satan seeks you out and sounds like God. You need God to know the difference.

Do you ever take anything seriously?

Yes.



(BTW, talking about contradictions:

You said God is everywhere and Satan cannot live in the light. ( try reading what was written Which is it? If the Light is everywhere, where does Satan live?

See what kind of lies Satan tells you? yes you do satan.)

I hope you design your buildings better than your posts. Perhaps you might like to actually read my post correctly then reply properly.
Debating brings all side of an argument not made up ones/

[daedalus 2.0]

You said:

Did you not know that Satan is not like God. He is not in all places at once.

Then

As you can see light and darkness cannot dwell in the same place.

Satan not like God: can't be all places at once (whereas God can)

Light (God) and Darkness (Satan) can't be in the same place.

Maybe you can explain it further?

[faith]

daedalus 2.0"]You said:

Did you not know that Satan is not like God. He is not in all places at once.

So I was talking to an ex-christian who should have known this and didn't?

Then

As you can see light and darkness cannot dwell in the same place.

Yes light and darkness cannot dwell in us as the same time. So how can doing good be of the darkness? As an ex-christian you would have known this. And as you were talking about me and saying Satan had fooled me. This should have been clear to you.

Satan not like God: can't be all places at once (whereas God can)

Light (God) and Darkness (Satan) can't be in the same place.

Maybe you can explain it further?

They are not morning and night are they? As a believer the things that a good are from God and these are light as indeed the things of satan are evil and they are darkness. But light the good things cannot come from the darkness. So as an ex-believer it should have been clear to you.

Love Faith.xx

[OnceConvinced]

You need your hearing checked. Satan is not as powerful as God. Are you sure you were a Christian? He is not more powerful than myself. either.

Well let's see. 33% = Christians. 66%= Non-Christians. Seems Satan has more influence. Could suggest he is indeed more powerful.

Did you not know that Satan is not like God. He is not in all places at once. So he has to roam the earth.

Mmm. Funny how many Christians claim Satan is tempting them, isn't it? How could Satan tempt so many millions of people at the same time if he is not omnipresent like God?

He does not know our hearts or our thoughts and cannot tell what we are thinking. But God knows our every word, even before we utter it.(psalm 139)
Christ said if a Kingdom divides against itself it falls. So clearly Satan would not preach truth and love, would he?

If he has some underhanded plan, then yes. Remember Satan is a great deciever and can dress things up to look holy when really they're not. How about all those Christians that are in different denominations to you that you think are not true Christians. Looks like Satan is doing a great job of decieving them in the guise of truth and love.

If the word does not do all it says then I would not be a believer. That is why we need to be honest and be truthful.

So do you do greater deeds than Christ? Do you move mountains? Do you drink poison without becoming sick? Those are gaurantees the bible makes if you are a believer. There are many more similar scriptures.

How do you know you chose correctly? Satan may be playing a life-long trick on you that will only be revealed when you die - and trying to get you to convince other people, too.

This would require me to deceive myself and others. The promises of God are not as such that they allow for that to happen.

Then how are there ex-Christians? According to you Satan has decieved millions, simply for being in a different denomination to you. He supposedly decieved me for 30 + years making me believe I was a "true Christian" and the many people around me who believed I was a "true Christian" (including highly respected pastors). He supposedly tricked me into thinking I had a relationship with God, which has resulted in me rejecting the bible's teachings. I did many good things in the name of Christ.

What makes you so confident he's not decieving you too?

[OnceConvinced]

But they aren't promises by God, they are by Satan and made true by Satan to deceive you..

For what purpose? To make me good?

Aren't Buddhists good? Hari Krishnas? Hindus? Yet they are all decived by Satan, right? The trick of Satan's is to get you to worship the wrong God. Whether you do good works or not is beside the point. The important thing for him is to get you to reject the one true God. What if the one true God is Allah? In which case Satan has completely suckered you right in.

Faith, you're trying too hard to argue with Daedalus here. Can't you see that he is trying to use an analogy to get you to think about the fallacies in your own beliefs?