Religion and violence

[chris_brown207]

The United States is nation with a Christian majority, with about 78% claiming some form of Christianity as of 2009. We are one of the most religious nations by far of all of the westernized, modern nations of the world.

Yet, as yesterdays tragedy shows, we are also one of the most violent nations in the world. 2012 has been a historic year for gun violence, with both the frequency and the level of devastation.

Questions for debate - what is the root cause? If religion brings peace, then why are we one of the most violent of the free and democratic nations in the world? What can we do to fix this?

[Passenger]

Questions for debate - what is the root cause? If religion brings peace, then why are we one of the most violent of the free and democratic nations in the world? What can we do to fix this?

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Only related to your question; it is not the single umptieth reason for the growing violence in the USA. It shares my opinion primarily:

1.latch weapon laws (every idiot can buy a weapon)
2. Fear ( fear for what is primarily "different". It is colored person, homosexuals, self-confident women, or a "left" politic
3. This stir up of fear with the help of the media(do you have noticed before, thatfirst, colored persons or Latinos are usually suspected?)
4. Religious populists and weapon fanatics orientated towards the right (as one of what I count the KKK also); the ones on her "white" prerogative tap.

I hope I could be helpful with my comment.

1) Not only "every idiot" or lunatic can buy or own a weapon in the US, but also ninety-nine percent of the Americans that should not assumed to be idiots.

2 and 3) What are you afraid of? Coloured persons or Latinos should not more suspected than others? But they are involved in shootings more than others (my brother lives in Los(t) Angeles). Yes, and the poor gays, oooh, they are always the poor victims with all their AIDS black death spreading all over the nation and the world.

4) Ya're not "white"? Ye surely are. What about your "prerogative" rights in Switzerland (is it in Germany? No... the Germans don't eat cheese all over da day but they are moe man-like and eat Schweinshaxe! Da is better than bloody cheese)? Ya're preeching water and drink wine? Yer comment shald be helpful? Are you jokin', man? Don't drivin' me mad I'm a full of hate German nigga... but the Germans accept me as a person and they are polite and civil... not the Switzer-money-stealers and Ku-Klux-Klan fascists.

[micatala]

Questions for debate - what is the root cause? If religion brings peace, then why are we one of the most violent of the free and democratic nations in the world? What can we do to fix this?

(...)
Only related to your question; it is not the single umptieth reason for the growing violence in the USA. It shares my opinion primarily:

1.latch weapon laws (every idiot can buy a weapon)
2. Fear ( fear for what is primarily "different". It is colored person, homosexuals, self-confident women, or a "left" politic
3. This stir up of fear with the help of the media(do you have noticed before, thatfirst, colored persons or Latinos are usually suspected?)
4. Religious populists and weapon fanatics orientated towards the right (as one of what I count the KKK also); the ones on her "white" prerogative tap.

I hope I could be helpful with my comment.

1) Not only "every idiot" or lunatic can buy or own a weapon in the US, but also ninety-nine percent of the Americans that should not assumed to be idiots.

2 and 3) What are you afraid of? Coloured persons or Latinos should not more suspected than others? But they are involved in shootings more than others (my brother lives in Los(t) Angeles). Yes, and the poor gays, oooh, they are always the poor victims with all their AIDS black death spreading all over the nation and the world.

4) Ya're not "white"? Ye surely are. What about your "prerogative" rights in Switzerland (is it in Germany? No... the Germans don't eat cheese all over da day but they are moe man-like and eat Schweinshaxe! Da is better than bloody cheese)? Ya're preeching water and drink wine? Yer comment shald be helpful? Are you jokin', man? Don't drivin' me mad I'm a full of hate German nigga... but the Germans accept me as a person and they are polite and civil... not the Switzer-money-stealers and Ku-Klux-Klan fascists.

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[The Ex-Mormon]

I think you should let be it; to insult other people or races, P.!

Now back to the topic:

I have often wondered; why people are more violent with a religious background than people without a religion. Is it a question of the values which represent religious people? Are the values perhaps wrong?

[otseng]

I have often wondered; why people are more violent with a religious background than people without a religion.

Do you have any evidence to back your assertion?

[Passenger]

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They are not only money stealers but also war profiteers and their banks are possessing ransoms of money once invested by nastional socialists's leaders or others of high finance. On the other hand Switzerland practices assistance for tax evasion and the relationship to Germany has become a bit problematic as the last convention with Switzerland has been failed. They are criminals, nothing more, they only earn money and are financing their bloody state with money once evaded or with black money and we should teach them a lesson. At the moment we are only rapping on their nuckles.

You want to hear more? I am pissing on your final warning, Mr. Micatala- Elephant (is your avatar showing an elephant? It looks a bit like an elephant or maybe it shows some other fucking beast).

The Exmormon: shut up you bloody faggot and stop fooling here. Also, ich habe keine Lust mehr, hier zu schreiben, die Forumssoftware hier ist auch ziemlich anstrengend. Ich wechsel mal wieder die Seiten. Viel Spa noch.

[A Troubled Man]

I have often wondered; why people are more violent with a religious background than people without a religion.

Do you have any evidence to back your assertion?

Religions are belief systems, hence they can motivate or inspire people to do both good and bad things. It was Christian doctrine that motivated the Crusades and Inquisitions while on the other hand inspired people like Mother Teresa.