Would you kill for god?

[McCulloch]

If you belive the bible, god has directed people to kill others, both individually (Abraham) and collectively (Joshua).
So, if god asked you to kill someone, would you?
How would you be sure that he really wants you to do it, after all he has asked it before of others?

[ENIGMA]

I believe God is perfect in all ways, perfect beyond our comprehension of perfection. And as that as my belief, there would never be a reason in his divine plan for him to ask me to take the life of anything.

Are you a vegetarian?

Plants are living.

The question that you should ask is whether she solely survives on water and multivitamin supplements.

[angelic_spirit]

Hi

I have to say you Got me on that one. LOL

No i'm not a vegetarian. I would like to be, but my father raised cattle when i was young so i grew up on steak. Just can't seem to say no to it these days either.

Though my mother taught me that God placed the animals upon the earth in order for us to have food, I have realized after studying the UB that it has more to do with our evolution as a human race.

But that is still something that i have yet to decide completely on one way or the other.

And it wasn't actually what i was thinking of when posting a response to the first question.

But anyways, I'm sure you actually know what i meant and are only trying to "trap" me within my words. So i'll just take a good laugh outta it, and try to remember to watch how I respond to future posts.

But always

Blessings

Angelic

[Bugmaster]

In theory, my answer should be yes. That is, if God told me to kill someone, I should do it. Would I? Maybe not, because I don't know if I would really believe it's from Him.

How would you know for sure ? Let's say you're in church, praying, and there's a man sitting at the pew in front of you. You have a strong sensation of God in your heart, telling you to kill him. You glance to your right, and to your left, and you see other Christians looking darkly at the man, and you can feel that they feel what you feel. None of you have ever seen this man before; he's a stranger in town, and you know that no one in the congregation bears him any personal grudge.

What do you do ?

[israeltour]

In theory, my answer should be yes. That is, if God told me to kill someone, I should do it. Would I? Maybe not, because I don't know if I would really believe it's from Him.

How would you know for sure ? Let's say you're in church, praying, and there's a man sitting at the pew in front of you. You have a strong sensation of God in your heart, telling you to kill him. You glance to your right, and to your left, and you see other Christians looking darkly at the man, and you can feel that they feel what you feel. None of you have ever seen this man before; he's a stranger in town, and you know that no one in the congregation bears him any personal grudge.

What do you do ?

If it ever happens, I'll let you know.

[captaincaustic]

I should think that God would never ask such a thing, but if, hypothetically He did, I would comply only if evidence was enormously overwhelming that it was the true will of God Himself.

[Cathar1950]

I Hope I couldn't kill for God. I would hope there is no way God could talk me into it. It seems to me if God wanted some one dead God could kill them and I wouldn't be needed to do it.
I would like to think I would try to talk God out of killing someone.

[achilles12604]

I Hope I couldn't kill for God. I would hope there is no way God could talk me into it. It seems to me if God wanted some one dead God could kill them and I wouldn't be needed to do it.
I would like to think I would try to talk God out of killing someone.

Since we are just airing our opinions here, I think that even if I was almost 100% sure God was telling me to kill someone, I still would not.

However, this does not include any of my line of work. After all being an ex soldier and a current Cop, this issue has, and probably will come up repeatedly. In these cases, I have no issues with self defense.

As for murder however, nope. I think it would be much easier to explain to God why I didn't kill someone based on what I know and what I have been taught, than to explain to God why I broke on of his laws and murdered someone based on emotions which are unreliable at best.

[israeltour]

I would like to think I would try to talk God out of killing someone.

That's actually a biblical answer. Abraham convinced God not to kill those in Sodom and Gomorrah if (I think it was) 10 righteous people were found there. However, there were less than that. Also, Jesus told a parable in Luke 13:6-9:

A certain man had a fig tree which had been planted in his vineyard; and he came looking for fruit on it, and did not find any. And he said to the vineyard-keeper, Behold, for three years I have come looking for fruit on this fig tree without finding any. Cut it down! Why does it even use up the ground? And he answered and said to him, Let it alone, sir, for this year, too, until I dig around it and put in fertilizer; and if it bears fruit next year, fine; but if not, cut it down.

God the Father is the owner of the fig tree, and Jesus is the vineyard-keeper.

[Cmass]

Would I kill for God?
Yes. In fact I have killed for God - twice. (Don't ask)
How did I know it was God who was speaking to me? How did I know the command was "real"? All my Brothers in the Church know when God speaks to them. One just KNOWS these things! Heck, even our President knows God speaks to him! And I fully trust him. (and the war on evil he is winning for us)
I know the Bible is the true word of our God in heaven - that is all the evidence I need. I have been told this from day #1 by my parents and community and believe it - I have no reason NOT to believe. Thus I know when God speaks to me it is His true word - I need no more evidence & have no reason NOT to believe that what I hear in my head is REAL.
One is either SURE of these things or one is NOT SURE of these things. If I did NOT follow the command of God to ELIMINATE scum from the earth because I THINK he would never command such a thing is just as wishy-washy as picking out sections of our Bible to follow & not follow. ALL of it is to be followed and ALL of God's commands and instructions are to be followed. To do otherwise leads us all down the slippery slope of collective relativism.
Period.
- Cmass

[topaz]

However the king of the children of Ammon didnt listen to the words of Jephthah which he sent him. Then the Spirit of Yahweh came on Jephthah, and he passed over Gilead and Manasseh, and passed over Mizpeh of Gilead, and from Mizpeh of Gilead he passed over to the children of Ammon.
Jephthah vowed a vow to Yahweh, and said, "If you will indeed deliver the children of Ammon into my hand, then it shall be, that whatever comes forth from the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, it shall be Yahwehs, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering."
So Jephthah passed over to the children of Ammon to fight against them; and Yahweh delivered them into his hand. He struck them from Aroer until you come to Minnith, even twenty cities, and to Abelcheramim, with a very great slaughter. So the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
Jephthah came to Mizpah to his house; and behold, his daughter came out to meet him with tambourines and with dances: and she was his only child; besides her he had neither son nor daughter. It happened, when he saw her, that he tore his clothes, and said, "Alas, my daughter! You have brought me very low, and you are one of those who trouble me; for I have opened my mouth to Yahweh, and I cant go back."
She said to him, "My father, you have opened your mouth to Yahweh; do to me according to that which has proceeded out of your mouth, because Yahweh has taken vengeance for you on your enemies, even on the children of Ammon." She said to her father, "Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may depart and go down on the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my companions."
He said, "Go." He sent her away for two months: and she departed, she and her companions, and mourned her virginity on the mountains. It happened at the end of two months, that she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow which he had vowed: and she was a virgin. It was a custom in Israel, that the daughters of Israel went yearly to celebrate the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.

Jephthah and the ammonites this is politics. War is inevitable. It is necessary in the course of righteousness.

One does have to wonder why God did not step in, in this case.

A vow is made voluntarily. The Law does state that we must keep the vows we make. Why shd God step in to stop a vow from being kept ?

The children of Israel served Eglon the king of Moab eighteen years. But when the children of Israel cried to Yahweh, Yahweh raised them up a savior, Ehud the son of Gera, the Benjamite, a man left-handed. The children of Israel sent tribute by him to Eglon the king of Moab. Ehud made him a sword which had two edges, a cubit in length; and he girded it under his clothing on his right thigh. He offered the tribute to Eglon king of Moab: now Eglon was a very fat man. When he had made an end of offering the tribute, he sent away the people who bore the tribute. But he himself turned back from the quarries that were by Gilgal, and said, "I have a secret errand to you, king."
The king said, "Keep silence!" All who stood by him went out from him.
Ehud came to him; and he was sitting by himself alone in the cool upper room. Ehud said, "I have a message from God to you." He arose out of his seat. Ehud put forth his left hand, and took the sword from his right thigh, and thrust it into his body: and the haft also went in after the blade; and the fat closed on the blade, for he didnt draw the sword out of his body; and it came out behind. Then Ehud went forth into the porch, and shut the doors of the upper room on him, and locked them.
Now when he was gone out, his servants came; and they saw, and behold, the doors of the upper room were locked; and they said, "Surely he is covering his feet in the upper chamber." They waited until they were ashamed; and behold, he didnt open the doors of the upper room: therefore they took the key, and opened them , and behold, their lord was fallen down dead on the earth.

Again, politics israel and the moabites. War is inevitable. It is necessary in the course of righteousness.

God's holy assassin.

1Ki 18:40 And Elijah said unto them, Take the prophets of Baal; let not one of them escape. And they took them: and Elijah brought them down to the brook Kishon, and slew them there.


Elijah the great prophet is another proof of Gods righteousness in dealing with His enemies. In righteousness, war is necessary, killing is necessary. In the context of terrorism today, if the righteous will not act by killing the unrighteous, then the unrighteous will be powerful and the whole world will be subjugated by islam. This is a classic example of righteous killing.

You shall not sacrifice to Yahweh your God an ox, or a sheep, in which is a blemish, or anything evil; for that is an abomination to Yahweh your God. If there be found in the midst of you, within any of your gates which Yahweh your God gives you, man or woman, who does that which is evil in the sight of Yahweh your God, in transgressing his covenant, and has gone and served other gods, and worshiped them, or the sun, or the moon, or any of the army of the sky, which I have not commanded; and it be told you, and you have heard of it, then you shall inquire diligently; and behold, if it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is done in Israel, then you shall bring forth that man or that woman, who has done this evil thing, to your gates, even the man or the woman; and you shall stone them to death with stones. At the mouth of two witnesses, or three witnesses, shall he who is to die be put to death; at the mouth of one witness he shall not be put to death. The hand of the witnesses shall be first on him to put him to death, and afterward the hand of all the people. So you shall put away the evil from the midst of you.

This is clearly not nation against nation but nation against individual.

Stoning to death belong to a different time in history. Christ onwards, death by stoning is replaced with death by Gods judgement. It is still death and the Law will not change.

Anyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death.

Gods Law. Can you change it ? Will you dare break this Law ?

For a more personal situation, who in these cases should be doing the putting to death? The parents, the community, the nation?

Neither. As I said above, after Christ, no more stoning. Christ is the Judge from the point of His ascension on the cross. The Law is relevant. Will never change. It is still . death except not by stoning.