What religion and Christianity couldn't possibly understand.

[mickeymudge]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

[mickeymudge]

At least get something that is back up with documentation like the bible. LOL.

LOL.

Well I must confess you do have some pretty funny material there. Maybe it's been my mistake all along. Here I was thinking that you have a sci-fi script to offer, when in truth you're actually offering a comedy script.

You might have something after all. That's pretty funny stuff, "At least get something that is backed up with documentation like the bible". That truly is hilarious.

Are sure you didn't steal that from some famous comedian? It sure sounds like something George Carlin might have said at some point.

Oh, so you're going to throw in the comedy card. I'll tell you what comedy is. Evolutionists claiming that DNA has the ability to change without them scientifically proving why or how.
Now we have Doctors and Scientists that have been working on learning more about DNA and how to make changes for over 30 years now, but evolution just magically knows how to change DNA.

I'm sorry, this is what I call comical. It's not proven until it's proven.
Besides, if DNA was smart enough to change, in terms of evolution, then it's a hallmark example of a creator. In essence, everything that evolution claims, is that it's a new form of a creator.

I'm never going to believe that our Scientists can't figure out how DNA changes through evolution, while the Russians just figured out that you can reprogram DNA with sound.
Give me a break man. Evolution was only created to replace the idea of creationism. Evolution, is a creator, either way you slice it, there must be a superior element of intelligence to know HOW to reprogram DNA, let alone doing it, and evolution claims both.
You seriously need to open your eyes to it's false claims.

The other thing that you're making the mistake on here, is you're assuming that my understanding comes from sci-fi thoughts. The fact is I don't engage in anything sci-fi, I like to stick with factual things. Which is something you could benefit from.
When I was able to determine that we are aliens and God was an alien, I did not set out to find such. Unlike you and evolutionism.

I had no agenda other than to find out why people are so sick, and what I found by accident is what you're laughing at.
Just because you're incredulous, doesn't mean you're correct.
So get over yourself, and stop preaching evolution, it's false, there is no proof man descended from primates, other than assumption.

Do like I do, and stick to the facts. Everything I have presented to you is backed up by both biblical and scientific facts. I have over 9 Doctors that say my findings are correct.

On doctor in particular that agrees that humans aren't from Earth.
Now I'm not a Doctor, and I'm not an Ecologist, so please explain to me how it is that after years of me telling me friends and family that our sun, is obviously not our sun, as it burns us, gives us cancer, we have to wear protection and limit our exposure, and wear eye protection.

If it were our sun it would not harm us.
BTW, that would be according to evolution as well, in case you're not seeing the facts here. How is it we never evolved to have natural protection from the sun?
Anyhow, I have been telling my friends and family for years about the sun, for years, and now just recently I find DR. Ellis Silver quoting me. Explain that one!

[Zzyzx]

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our sun, is obviously not our sun, as it burns us, gives us cancer, we have to wear protection and limit our exposure, and wear eye protection. If it were our sun it would not harm us.

Hmmm . . . you've disavowed comedy and science fiction – which leaves attempted seriousness?

BTW, that would be according to evolution as well, in case you're not seeing the facts here. How is it we never evolved to have natural protection from the sun?

Humans have evolved natural protection from the sun. It is called pigmentation. Peoples who inhabit tropical areas tend to have dark colored skin that is less prone to damage from sunlight exposure.

Evolution was only created to replace the idea of creationism.

Interesting conjecture. Kindly cite evidence from credible sources

[Elijah John]

At least get something that is back up with documentation like the bible. LOL.

LOL.

Well I must confess you do have some pretty funny material there. Maybe it's been my mistake all along. Here I was thinking that you have a sci-fi script to offer, when in truth you're actually offering a comedy script.

You might have something after all. That's pretty funny stuff, "At least get something that is backed up with documentation like the bible". That truly is hilarious.

Are sure you didn't steal that from some famous comedian? It sure sounds like something George Carlin might have said at some point.

Oh, so you're going to throw in the comedy card. I'll tell you what comedy is. Evolutionists claiming that DNA has the ability to change without them scientifically proving why or how.
Now we have Doctors and Scientists that have been working on learning more about DNA and how to make changes for over 30 years now, but evolution just magically knows how to change DNA.

I'm sorry, this is what I call comical. It's not proven until it's proven.
Besides, if DNA was smart enough to change, in terms of evolution, then it's a hallmark example of a creator. In essence, everything that evolution claims, is that it's a new form of a creator.

I'm never going to believe that our Scientists can't figure out how DNA changes through evolution, while the Russians just figured out that you can reprogram DNA with sound.
Give me a break man. Evolution was only created to replace the idea of creationism. Evolution, is a creator, either way you slice it, there must be a superior element of intelligence to know HOW to reprogram DNA, let alone doing it, and evolution claims both.
You seriously need to open your eyes to it's false claims.

The other thing that you're making the mistake on here, is you're assuming that my understanding comes from sci-fi thoughts. The fact is I don't engage in anything sci-fi, I like to stick with factual things. Which is something you could benefit from.
When I was able to determine that we are aliens and God was an alien, I did not set out to find such. Unlike you and evolutionism.

I had no agenda other than to find out why people are so sick, and what I found by accident is what you're laughing at.
Just because you're incredulous, doesn't mean you're correct.
So get over yourself, and stop preaching evolution, it's false, there is no proof man descended from primates, other than assumption.

Do like I do, and stick to the facts. Everything I have presented to you is backed up by both biblical and scientific facts. I have over 9 Doctors that say my findings are correct.

On doctor in particular that agrees that humans aren't from Earth.
Now I'm not a Doctor, and I'm not an Ecologist, so please explain to me how it is that after years of me telling me friends and family that our sun, is obviously not our sun, as it burns us, gives us cancer, we have to wear protection and limit our exposure, and wear eye protection.

If it were our sun it would not harm us.
BTW, that would be according to evolution as well, in case you're not seeing the facts here. How is it we never evolved to have natural protection from the sun?
Anyhow, I have been telling my friends and family for years about the sun, for years, and now just recently I find DR. Ellis Silver quoting me. Explain that one!

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[mickeymudge]

At least get something that is back up with documentation like the bible. LOL.

LOL.

Well I must confess you do have some pretty funny material there. Maybe it's been my mistake all along. Here I was thinking that you have a sci-fi script to offer, when in truth you're actually offering a comedy script.

You might have something after all. That's pretty funny stuff, "At least get something that is backed up with documentation like the bible". That truly is hilarious.

Are sure you didn't steal that from some famous comedian? It sure sounds like something George Carlin might have said at some point.

Oh, so you're going to throw in the comedy card. I'll tell you what comedy is. Evolutionists claiming that DNA has the ability to change without them scientifically proving why or how.
Now we have Doctors and Scientists that have been working on learning more about DNA and how to make changes for over 30 years now, but evolution just magically knows how to change DNA.

I'm sorry, this is what I call comical. It's not proven until it's proven.
Besides, if DNA was smart enough to change, in terms of evolution, then it's a hallmark example of a creator. In essence, everything that evolution claims, is that it's a new form of a creator.

I'm never going to believe that our Scientists can't figure out how DNA changes through evolution, while the Russians just figured out that you can reprogram DNA with sound.
Give me a break man. Evolution was only created to replace the idea of creationism. Evolution, is a creator, either way you slice it, there must be a superior element of intelligence to know HOW to reprogram DNA, let alone doing it, and evolution claims both.
You seriously need to open your eyes to it's false claims.

The other thing that you're making the mistake on here, is you're assuming that my understanding comes from sci-fi thoughts. The fact is I don't engage in anything sci-fi, I like to stick with factual things. Which is something you could benefit from.
When I was able to determine that we are aliens and God was an alien, I did not set out to find such. Unlike you and evolutionism.

I had no agenda other than to find out why people are so sick, and what I found by accident is what you're laughing at.
Just because you're incredulous, doesn't mean you're correct.
So get over yourself, and stop preaching evolution, it's false, there is no proof man descended from primates, other than assumption.

Do like I do, and stick to the facts. Everything I have presented to you is backed up by both biblical and scientific facts. I have over 9 Doctors that say my findings are correct.

On doctor in particular that agrees that humans aren't from Earth.
Now I'm not a Doctor, and I'm not an Ecologist, so please explain to me how it is that after years of me telling me friends and family that our sun, is obviously not our sun, as it burns us, gives us cancer, we have to wear protection and limit our exposure, and wear eye protection.

If it were our sun it would not harm us.
BTW, that would be according to evolution as well, in case you're not seeing the facts here. How is it we never evolved to have natural protection from the sun?
Anyhow, I have been telling my friends and family for years about the sun, for years, and now just recently I find DR. Ellis Silver quoting me. Explain that one!

Moderator Comment

BOTH participants in this exchange seem to be getting a little uncivil here. Try to tone down the rhetoric folks, and refrain from the lecturing and derisive tone, on BOTH sides.

Please review the Rules.


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Moderator comments do not count as a strike against any posters. They only serve as an acknowledgment that a post report has been received, but has not been judged to warrant a moderator warning against a particular poster. Any challenges or replies to moderator postings should be made via Private Message to avoid derailing topics.

I'm not sure if you wanted just proof from an Ecologist Dr. that knows that our sun is not our sun. I noticed you commented that We evolved by using pigmentation for the sun, which doesn't explain why we still get Sun cancer, have to wear protection, wear sun glasses etc.

So below, is a listing of Doctors, Scientists, Authors, and Researchers that all agree with points that individually prove Intervention is how we got to this planet.

Happy hunting...

Erich Von Daniken is who came up with the Arc of the covenant being a radio device and sodom and gomorrah being an atomic bomb. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

Earth-is-not-our-home-hebrews-111-16.html for the supernatural intention translation. http://gspcsermons.blogspot.com/2008/08/

Allan Snyder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allan_Snyder

Dr and author / Ecologist, Ellis Silver, http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/humans ... s-our.html

aborted alien fetus, http://www.ufosightingsdaily.com/2013/0 ... cking.html

10% brain myth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_brain_myth

mtDNA wiki. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

abduction and militant control engineering by proxy. http://www.ufoevidence.org/cases/case354.htm

The Search for Mitochondrial Eve. "NewsWeek" http://www.virginia.edu/woodson/courses ... erney.html

The UFO Threat A Fact. http://www.greatdreams.com/ufos/firefighters.htm

Endangered animal Author, George, S Fichter, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction ... ite_note-2

Andrew Weil, M.D. http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/QAA400757/P ... e-Ice.html

Hopkins, Jacobs and sociologist Dr. Ron Westrum, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_abduction_claimants

Kelly Cahill,

Donald Decker, http://beforeitsnews.com/strange/2013/1 ... 53368.html

David Morehouse, Ingo Swann and Joseph McMoneagle. http://realpsychicpower.com/famous-remote-viewers

Elgar G, and Vavouri T. http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-coding_DNA

Author/researcher, Lloyd Pye,

Francis S. Collins, M.D., Ph.D. http://www.nih.gov/about/director/

Robert Fludd, Ted Serios, http://chronicle.com/article/Ted-SeriosPsychic/126388/

Dr. Dmitri Alden, http://hauteliving.com/2013/12/food-kil ... en/433471/

Dr. John Ankerberg, Dr. John Weldon, http://www.inplainsite.org/html/polterg ... uLckK.dpuf

Most bible passages as well as variations, and indexing searces were taken from. http://legacy.biblegateway.com/

Michael A. Persinger http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Persinger

http://www.remoteviewed.com/rvhistorymap.html

[Divine Insight]

The Search for Mitochondrial Eve. "NewsWeek" http://www.virginia.edu/woodson/courses ... erney.html

I just picked out one of the articles you linked to randomly to see what in the world you are talking about.

But guess what? This article I picked out from your list doesn't say anything at all about any aliens. Moreover it totally supports biological evolution.

You post all these reference links but have you actually read any of them?

This NewsWeek article you posted a link to totally supports my position on natural evolution entirely. And I didn't see any reference to aliens at all.

[Overcomer]

Thanks for providing a list of your sources. I took a look at a couple of the links from the Christians I know who are on your list, namely, Francis Collins and John Ankerberg and John Weldon.

The article by the latter pair has nothing to do with aliens from outer space. It's an article about poltergeists in which the authors attribute the experiences with them as being demonic. Demons are not space aliens. They are fallen angels.

The link to the Collins' site offered links to a number of articles, but I didn't see anything that looked like he was endorsing the idea of alien DNA. I can't imagine that he would. He's an ex-atheist who became a Christian because of his study of science. He once headed the National Human Genome Research Institute and, to be honest, I can't see anybody putting him in that position if he was into space alien stories and UFOs.

I also recognize Von Daniken's name. I read Chariots of the Gods when I was in high school and found it entertaining, but I didn't believe it. Since that time, he has been found guilty of fraud. He presented complete fabrications to sell his book and make a name for himself. He did make millions, but the name he made for himself isn't a good one.

I then clicked on the aborted alien fetus link and it has a fake National Enquirer look to it. In other words, it posts sensational headlines with little evidence to back them up.

I'm sorry, Lawrence, but I'm one of those incredulous people you find so annoying.

[mickeymudge]

The Search for Mitochondrial Eve. "NewsWeek" http://www.virginia.edu/woodson/courses ... erney.html

I just picked out one of the articles you linked to randomly to see what in the world you are talking about.

But guess what? This article I picked out from your list doesn't say anything at all about any aliens. Moreover it totally supports biological evolution.

You post all these reference links but have you actually read any of them?

This NewsWeek article you posted a link to totally supports my position on natural evolution entirely. And I didn't see any reference to aliens at all.

Well I have read them all and can tell you that the Newsweek has specifically pointed out in other articles that it doesn't appear to be evolution friendly.

Maybe you can hit me back with some details as why you think it aids in the direction of evolution, and for right now since I'm on here, I will explain how it aids in Intervention.

The obvious of course if the finding of Y-chromosome Adam indicating that our lineage goes back possibly as far as 581,000 years, which totally blows a hole in the concept that God created us just 6,000 years ago. Of course this is the obvious. This would suggest we were placed here 6,000 years ago through abduction like I have been pointing out, and of course had life history else where for the other 575,000 years or possibly more.

None of this of course proves intervention, but the following does. Mitochondrial Eve, aside from her mother was the only female to have her genes carried on to all living humans today. All of her contemporaries fell off the record. This is obviously because she was SEPARATED from her contemporaries, and science will never figure this out, because no one would ever believe that God was a space alien.

[mickeymudge]

Thanks for providing a list of your sources. I took a look at a couple of the links from the Christians I know who are on your list, namely, Francis Collins and John Ankerberg and John Weldon.

The article by the latter pair has nothing to do with aliens from outer space. It's an article about poltergeists in which the authors attribute the experiences with them as being demonic. Demons are not space aliens. They are fallen angels.

The link to the Collins' site offered links to a number of articles, but I didn't see anything that looked like he was endorsing the idea of alien DNA. I can't imagine that he would. He's an ex-atheist who became a Christian because of his study of science. He once headed the National Human Genome Research Institute and, to be honest, I can't see anybody putting him in that position if he was into space alien stories and UFOs.

I also recognize Von Daniken's name. I read Chariots of the Gods when I was in high school and found it entertaining, but I didn't believe it. Since that time, he has been found guilty of fraud. He presented complete fabrications to sell his book and make a name for himself. He did make millions, but the name he made for himself isn't a good one.

I then clicked on the aborted alien fetus link and it has a fake National Enquirer look to it. In other words, it posts sensational headlines with little evidence to back them up.

I'm sorry, Lawrence, but I'm one of those incredulous people you find so annoying.

It would appear that you're trying to selectively choose who might be worth trusting based on their beliefs. What you need to understand is that my research was not about aliens, but more about what they did to us through DNA and proving that we in fact have hidden abilities. For example, Poltergeist activity comes from the subject, but appears to be uncontrolled. Just like how Moses parted the ocean, we probably are suppose to have the ability to move things. Of course ours is disabled, and what you are reading about is where someones is in a not so dormant state.

This is built with the understanding that we have a specific design, with selective powers. Just like how a bird can fly. You could disable his ability through DNA without having to kill him through removing his wings. God trying to physically remove out abilities would have killed us, plus he needed a way to give us back our powers, or heal us, when we obeyed.

[Divine Insight]

Maybe you can hit me back with some details as why you think it aids in the direction of evolution, and for right now since I'm on here, I will explain how it aids in Intervention.

I have no desire to try to educate you on a religion debate forum. The article speaks for itself. If you can't understanding it I recommend college courses.

Why should I waste my time trying to teach a clearly "Hostile Student" on an internet forum?

If you want to believe the the Bible was inspired by Aliens please be my guest.

But if you're trying to sell me on the idea then it's "NO SALE".

Good luck trying to convince others of your alien nightmares. And don't loose too much sleep over it. As long as the aliens aren't bothering you why worry about it?

~~~~~

By the way, if there are bad aliens out there who are out to get us, then there are probably some good aliens out there too. So instead of having nightmares about the bad aliens why not start dreaming about good aliens that come along and save us from the bad aliens?

Have a little optimistic faith.

[Wordleymaster1]

My name is Lawrence. I was directed to post a topic here so that others can learn more about my presence here. I promise to try to be at my best, but please understand that I have no place for incredulous people. The bible is so misunderstood today that it's teachings has spawned atheists, and even the weak theory of evolution.

People want so badly to understand what has happened, and what the bible means. You don't have to suffer any longer. I come equipped with over 34 years of needed knowledge of the Supernatural to understand these things, in addition to being privy to four events myself. I am not a messiah, I am not a prophet, I'm simply some poor soul that accidentally found out, that my education is paramount to understanding the bible. Simply put, without it, anyone would be unqualified to read the bible. If they do, you would most likely see things result from it like wars, family barriers, and other non agreeing events. You will also see things like overlooked events in the bible which aren't explained by society.

The only thing that I'm going to share is that the bible is NOT what mainstream society thinks that it is. My research in this matter is backed by several Doctors, Scientists, Authors, Gifted people, Researchers, and numerous others.

I read the bible & it's rediculous as a book of any ultimate creator-god.
Other than that, I guess it could be a humerous take on the state of affairs of politics at the time.
Or poorly recycled stories from other religions.