To Christians: Who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago?

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To Christians: Who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago?

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If we could turn the clock back 2500 who would have been your God?

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[Replying to Clownboat in post #15]
Nothing, but remember the topic is 'who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago'.
Like today, I assume most would worship the god of their geography, whether that god is real or not matters not to this observation.
So then, the only thing the above reveals is, most folks tend to believe what they have been taught?

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Realworldjack wrote: Sat Feb 14, 2026 5:39 am [Replying to Clownboat in post #15]
Nothing, but remember the topic is 'who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago'.
Like today, I assume most would worship the god of their geography, whether that god is real or not matters not to this observation.
So then, the only thing the above reveals is, most folks tend to believe what they have been taught?
Other claims you add on to mine might also be true, but let's stick to what is said:
"Like today, I assume most would worship the god of their geography"

This challenge now seems relevant to you as well as bjs1:
"People in fact due tend to worship the god of their geography. You can either acknowledge the truth of this or explain why it is not true and people actually tend to not worship the god concepts of their geography."
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Re: To Christians: Who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago?

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[Replying to Clownboat in post #22]

Is it really about geography? If we examine where the thread question comes from - the member going by the name of "Avoice" his mode of operation comes from a particular (unnamed) version of Judaism which is intolerant of Christianity.

The history of the Hebrews is different in that geography was not an issue. They took their God with them - or another way of saying it is that their God moved them about consistently and with purpose.

The question Avoice asks here is rooted in that concept. He is being rhetorical in that. He is not asking which God you would worship 2500 years ago. Rather he is implying that it would be YHVH.

So geographically, where was YHVH 2500 years ago? And the answer would be , wherever YVHVs people were at that time.

The question itself is not only rhetorical, but poorly framed. In that, yes it would depend on where one was as to what god (if any) one would worship. However, given the style Avoice expresses consistently on this forum, we should have no doubt of his intent here...he is saying Christians would have worshiped the God of the Israelites (the Hebrew God) since Christians claim to be worshipping that God anyway...but Avoice consistently advocates that Jesus, Christians et all are worshiping a false image of YHVH and as such, are a defilement on the name of YHVH.

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Avoice wrote: Wed Jan 28, 2026 9:59 am [Replying to AquinasForGod in post #5]

Before the birth of Jesus no one had heard of him.

So my question is who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago? Would it have been the God of Israel? The God who gave the laws, judgments, and statutes at Sinai?
I imagine the same God that revealed himself to me. I don't know what he would have told me to follow back then. Most likely something like Abraham.

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AquinasForGod wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 3:23 pm I imagine the same God that revealed himself to me. I don't know what he would have told me to follow back then. Most likely something like Abraham.
I acknowledge that you can imagine that had you been born in Peru to the Norte Chico civilization some 3,500 years ago for example, that you would believe in the God of Abraham.
I acknowledge that you can imagine that had you been born during the Xia and Shang dynasties in China some 3 - 4k years ago that you would believe in the God of Abraham.
I don't believe that what you imagine would have actually happened, but I do acknowledge you can imagine it.

Had you been born in Göbeklitepe (9500 BC), do you still think (not are you able to imagine) you would believe in the God of Abraham?
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Re: To Christians: Who would you have worshipped 2500 years ago?

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[Replying to Clownboat in post #19]

The question was not “What God did people worship in North America 2,500 years ago.” The question was, “would have been your God?”

For you to be born 2,500 years ago, as opposed to when you were actually born, then your birth time and place would have to be random. It would have to be equally likely that you could have been born 2,500 as it is that you were born within the last 100 years.

That is why I call this circular reasoning. We have to start with the assumption that there is no God overseeing history, and therefor our births are random. We have to assume the conclusion is true to prove that the conclusion is true.
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Clownboat wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 12:07 pm
AquinasForGod wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 3:23 pm I imagine the same God that revealed himself to me. I don't know what he would have told me to follow back then. Most likely something like Abraham.
I acknowledge that you can imagine that had you been born in Peru to the Norte Chico civilization some 3,500 years ago for example, that you would believe in the God of Abraham.
I acknowledge that you can imagine that had you been born during the Xia and Shang dynasties in China some 3 - 4k years ago that you would believe in the God of Abraham.
I don't believe that what you imagine would have actually happened, but I do acknowledge you can imagine it.

Had you been born in Göbeklitepe (9500 BC), do you still think (not are you able to imagine) you would believe in the God of Abraham?
Yes and no. No, because Abraham did not yet exist. Yes, because the God of Abraham exists always. So the same God who would reveal himself to Abraham could reveal himself to me, regardless of when I was born. I happened to be born in this time, and it was in this time when God revealed himself to me. I cannot just choose to disbelieve in God any more than you can choose to disbelieve in a tree you see. Once God reveals himself to you, you believe. There is no more doubting.

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