In discussing Christian scripture with others, I sometimes encounter the assertion that "interpretation" is a legitimate factor in assessing the nature of said scripture.
According to Google, Liberal Christianity "interprets Christian teachings by prioritizing modern knowledge, science, and ethics over traditional doctrinal authority".
If even the more conservative apologist defends Christian scripture by allowing for interpretation of it, how much criticism is it fair to level at more liberal interpretations of Christianity?
What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Moderator: Moderators
-
Athetotheist
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3887
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 716 times
What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #1"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
---Alan Watts
---Alan Watts
- 1213
- Savant
- Posts: 13491
- Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2011 11:06 am
- Location: Finland
- Has thanked: 498 times
- Been thanked: 511 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #21Then we could see who is right and if someone is wrong.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 10:26 am [Replying to 1213 in post #14]
How would that help, except in helping you formulate your own belief?I would have to see the example and how do they come up to their belief.
My new book can be read freely from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rIkqxC ... xtqFY/view
Old version can be read from here:
http://web.archive.org/web/202212010403 ... x_eng.html
-
Athetotheist
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3887
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 716 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #22[Replying to 1213 in post #21]
According to who?Then we could see who is right and if someone is wrong.
"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
---Alan Watts
---Alan Watts
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #23Show me a liberal Christian that doesn't cover their sinning by faith-alone...Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 6:25 pm [Replying to RBD in post #17]
That's your interpretation.Liberal Christianity pertaining to interpretation, is cover for liberal sinning.
-
Athetotheist
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3887
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 716 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #24[Replying to RBD in post #23]
(Romans 3:7)
"For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?"Show me a liberal Christian that doesn't cover their sinning by faith-alone...
(Romans 3:7)
"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
---Alan Watts
---Alan Watts
-
Athetotheist
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3887
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 716 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #25Thanks for the thanks on this post, but you do realize that "this generation" literally passed away long ago, don't you?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 6:38 pm [Replying to RBD in post #18]
"Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."There's of course symbolism, parables, figurative allegories in the Bible, which the Bible says itself when doing so. But, when there's no Scriptural reason to reject the literal 'interpretation', then don't change it to symbolic mythology.
(Matthew 24:34)
"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
---Alan Watts
---Alan Watts
-
OneJack
- Guru
- Posts: 1662
- Joined: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:57 am
- Has thanked: 4 times
- Been thanked: 18 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #26Both of them come up with their respective doctrine since, as you illustrated, they were Conservative Christians and Liberal Christians, both of which do not exist in the flock of the Lord Jesus, except for plain Christians or followers of the Lord, across all generations. Christians know for themselves that when they interpret the scriptures, the same is only in accordance with their own understanding and wisdom, a teaching that they've learned from their only Pastor and Teacher, the real and eternally living Christ Jesus, who is Immanuel, the Almighty God who is with all at all times. They (Christians) also know that truth resides only in their Pastor and Teacher - the Lord Jesus Christ - not in the bible as many presume and think of.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2026 12:25 pm [Replying to 1213 in post #4]
But if a conservative Christian interprets a passage one way and a liberal Christian interprets the same passage a different way, who's coming up with their "own" doctrine?Christians originally meant a disciple of Jesus. And person is a disciple of Jesus, when he remains in word of Jesus. Now sadly many Christians have replaced the word of Jesus by their own doctrines and it is sad. It is sad also, because then many think Christianity is the doctrines of men that easily fail, which can lead many astray.
Therefore, criticizing those interpretations, even to the highest degree, is tantamount to nothing but mere disagreement and contradiction with each other's opinions.
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #27Well done. Liberal Christians apply several of Paul's mocking queries to themselves. Including this one of bringing glory to God, but their own inglorious sinning.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 4:30 pm [Replying to RBD in post #23]
"For if the truth of God has increased through my lie to His glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?"Show me a liberal Christian that doesn't cover their sinning by faith-alone...
(Romans 3:7)
Instead of 'seeing Jesus by seeing me', it's 'see how holy God must be, by seeing how ungodly I am'.
Humbly drawing close to God, is by repenting from ungodliness. It's not by 'humbly' showing how ungodly you are...
Col 2:18
Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility...intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, And not holding the Head...
Don't you claim once being a Christian? Must have been a liberal Christian. They go back and forth too.
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #28So, you are the one claiming to have been a Christians long ago?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri May 15, 2026 4:32 pmThanks for the thanks on this post, but you do realize that "this generation" literally passed away long ago, don't you?Athetotheist wrote: ↑Thu May 14, 2026 6:38 pm [Replying to RBD in post #18]
"Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."There's of course symbolism, parables, figurative allegories in the Bible, which the Bible says itself when doing so. But, when there's no Scriptural reason to reject the literal 'interpretation', then don't change it to symbolic mythology.
(Matthew 24:34)
In any case, that generation has passed away, as has every generation since then to present. It's the last generation of sinful men ruling on earth, that will pass away at the Lord's return. Then He Himself will inherit all nations, and with His resurrected saints rule over all the earth for a thousand years.
Thanks again.
-
Athetotheist
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3887
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 716 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #29[Replying to RBD in post #28]
How do you get "the last generation of sinful men ruling on earth" from "this generation"?that generation has passed away, as has every generation since then to present. It's the last generation of sinful men ruling on earth, that will pass away at the Lord's return.
"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
---Alan Watts
---Alan Watts
-
Athetotheist
- Prodigy
- Posts: 3887
- Joined: Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:24 pm
- Has thanked: 20 times
- Been thanked: 716 times
Re: What exactly is wrong with Liberal Christianity?
Post #30[Replying to RBD in post #27]
Have you not read of how Jesus, with his disciples, violated the law by picking grain on the Sabbath (Matthew 12) after teaching that not a jot or tittle had passed from the law (Matthew 5)? If Jesus could be liberal, why can't a Christian be liberal?Must have been a liberal Christian. They go back and forth too.
"The religious idea of God cannot do full duty for the metaphysical infinity."
---Alan Watts
---Alan Watts

