Paradise on Earth

[onewithhim]

When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?

If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.

We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.

Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29

[FaithWillDo]

[Replying to FaithWillDo in post #2054]

I would hate to have to explain YOUR blasphemous statements to Christ when he comes back.

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Dear onewithhim,
Your statements show that Christ is a failure at completing the mission the Father gave Him to do:

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

Your belief in mankind's supposed "free will" elevates mankind to be as powerful as God and even stronger.

Your doctrine says that God's "will" presented below not happen:

Phi 2:10-11 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1 Tim 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 Tim 4:10-11 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe (these are the First Fruits). These things command and teach.

2Pet 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Peter says that God is not willing for any to perish but you teach that mankind's supposed "free will" is too much for Christ to overcome. But scripture says that God is all-powerful and that anything He desires will be accomplished. Since God is not willing for any to perish, none will perish.

Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? And what his soul desireth, that will he do.

Isa 46:10-11 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Certainly mankind's "will" is no problem for God:

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of the heavens, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

2 Chron 20:6 and he said, Jehovah, God of our fathers, art not thou God in the heavens, and rulest thou not over all the kingdoms of the nations? And in thy hand there is power and might, and none can withstand thee.

Why do you not believe these verses? The answer lies in the story of the blind man in Mark 8:21-25 which I explained in my previous post.

Joe

[FaithWillDo]

I claim to understand the spiritual language which Christ's (God's Word) uses to teach His children.

Only Christ's chosen Elect/First Fruits/Heirs are given eyes and ears to understand God's Word. They receive this gift from Christ when they receive the Latter Rain of the Spirit (baptism of the Spirit/second coming of Christ) and have their spiritual blindness healed.

Joe

With your claims above, I can't understand why you did not know exactly what the fate of the 12 year old Muslim boy you described below is:

I saw a picture on foxnews.com of a young Muslim boy (age 12) who had just lived through the recent Pakistan earthquake. For some reason, my heart for this boy was really going out to him. I have rarely ever felt this way before by a news story. That evening in prayer at home, the image of the boy came back to me and I grieved for him as I prayed. I was not grieving for him because of the earthquake but because I thought that he was going to be eternally lost and that he really doesn't have a realistic chance of being saved. I couldn't understand why I had been blessed with the opportunity to know the Lord and why he has virtually no opportunity since he lives in a Muslim country. I asked the Lord why this was the case. I was so confused and couldn't understand why he was most likely going to hell just because of where he had been born.

Dear myth-one.com,
If you would have read my conversion testimony more carefully, you would realize that I was not converted when I prayed for the Muslim boy. And for that reason, I couldn't understand the truth of the boy's fate at that time. Before a chosen believer is converted, they are no different than the believers who are not chosen. This truth is presented in The parable of the Ten Virgins:

Mat 25:1-13 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto TEN virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. And five of them were wise, and five were foolish. They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: But the wise took oil in flasks with their lamps. While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves. And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

The parable begins by showing us Ten Virgins. The term “Virgins” symbolizes all believers who have been “Called out from the world” (the church).

2Cor 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

All ten virgins have received the Early Rain of the Spirit at this point, but not the Latter Rain. The number TEN represents the completeness of their carnality. They have all been made “worse than before” (Mat 12:43-45).

The Lamp in verse 1 represents the Word of God (Christ/Truth) and the “Oil” with which it is filled represents the Holy Spirit. This original filling of Oil represents the Early Rain of the Spirit within the “called out” believer. The Light that the Lamp gives off is “truth” which lights the pathway to Christ.

Psa 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.

This “truth” that lights the way to Christ is the Old Covenant of Law (man’s works).

Mat 25:2 And FIVE of them were Wise, and FIVE were Foolish.

The parable continues with two additional symbols: FIVE Wise Virgins and FIVE Foolish Virgins. The number FIVE is a symbol for how we relate to God. Those two ways are either by “works” or by “faith”.

The FIVE Foolish Virgins represent those who have been Called Out but are not chosen to be saints. They approach Christ by “works”. They will remain under the Law until their physical deaths.

The FIVE Wise Virgins represent those who have been Called Out and Chosen to be saints. They will for a time approach Christ by “works” alongside the Called Out believers but they will eventually change their approach to “Grace through Faith”.

Mat 25:3-5 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them: 4 But the wise took oil in flasks with their lamps. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

While the Ten Virgins wait for the Bridegroom to come a second time (the first time was when the betrothal was made/Early Rain), they all slumber & sleep and do not keep watch. The symbol “slumbered and slept” represents the time when we are spiritually blind and spiritually dead. At this time, the Wise Virgins are no different from the Foolish Virgins. They too, are in a worsened spiritual state (Man of Sin) and still carry the Lamp that gives off the light of the Old Covenant of Law (man’s works).

However, verse 4 lets us know that the Wise Virgins are those who are also chosen to be saints because they carry an extra flask of Oil.

Mat 25:6-9 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him. 7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. 9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

At midnight, the deepest part of our spiritual darkness when we are under Satan's deceptions, the call goes out to announce the Bridegroom’s approach. This is the same call that was made by John the Baptist to the Nation of Israel and later by the Apostle John to “Called Out” (Early Rain) Christian believers. It is a call to repent from our own “works” so as to prepare the way for us to receive Christ and the New Covenant.

When both the Wise Virgins and the Foolish Virgins hear “the voice of one crying in the wilderness” (Luke 3:4) “come out of her my people” (Rev 18:4), it tells them the Bridegroom is coming. They all awake from their slumber and trim their Lamps. As they do, the Lamps begin to go out. A second filling of Oil is needed. The 5 wise Virgins, since they brought a second filling of Oil, receive the Latter Rain of the Spirit and go out to meet Christ. They follow the light from the New Covenant of Grace through Faith. But because the 5 Foolish Virgins do not have a second filling of Oil, they are forced to “turn back” from whence they came. They will remain under Law.

This time of turning back is symbolized by Lot’s wife who turned back.

Luke 17:31-32 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back. 32 Remember Lot's wife.

It is also shown to us in John 6:66 when some of the Christ’s disciples turned away from following Him after responding to the cry of John the Baptist.

John 6:66 From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

The 5 Foolish Virgins cannot continue on to meet the Bridegroom because they did not receive a second filling of Oil for their Lamps. This New Oil symbolizes the Latter Rain of the Holy Spirit which would have lighted their way to walk by the New Covenant of Grace through Faith. The 5 Foolish Virgins simply were not chosen from the foundation of the world and had no choice but to remain under Law. Because they never became the wife of Christ, a new child of God was never produced. As a result, they remained under Law and were not saved.

Mat 25:10-12 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. 11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. 12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

The Foolish Virgins will later find that their portion is with the unbelievers. This event occurs at their resurrection to judgment (Lake of Fire):

Luke 12:46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

The Foolish Virgins will not be blessed to be in Christ’s harvest of First Fruits and they will be resurrected to judgment with the unbelievers. They will receive their portion at the end of the final age when the great harvest of mankind occurs. They will not have life in the Kingdom of Heaven during the ages. They will only be given life at the end of the ages.

Mat 25:46 And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.'

When the Great Day of the Harvest (Feast of Tabernacles) finally arrives, Christ and His bride (the chosen Elect/First Fruits) will make this call to them:

John 7:37-38 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Then it will be testified to be true that “all” who died in Adam will be made alive "in Christ":

1 Tim 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

1 Cor 15:20-28 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the consummation, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Christ’s reign will come to an end because He accomplished all that the Father gave Him to do:

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

Do you believe these verses?

Joe

[myth-one.com]

Do you believe these verses?

Yes.

I'm not sure you understand all of them. Here's an example:

Christ’s reign will come to an end because He accomplished all that the Father gave Him to do:

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

[FaithWillDo]

Do you believe these verses?

Yes.

I'm not sure you understand all of them. Here's an example:

Christ’s reign will come to an end because He accomplished all that the Father gave Him to do:

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Dear myth-one.com,
"Forever and ever"??? What does that mean exactly? The Greek words used are "aion aion". Aion means "age". How can an age mean forever, much less forever and ever. It makes no sense. The phrase "forever and ever" is a result of translator bias. They believed that the lost will remain in "hell" forever so they translated "aion aion" that way. But when the phrase is properly translated, it means "for the ages of the ages". With a correct understanding of the pathway to salvation, the verse makes perfect sense when translated as "ages of the ages". Christ only "reigns" until the last person is saved. Christ is presently reigning spiritually within His Elect of this age until their salvation is complete. Then in the final age, He reigns over the rest of mankind until they too, are saved. When the last enemy is destroyed (death), Christ's reign and the ages will come to an end. God will then be "all in all". If Christ doesn't complete the mission His Father gave Him, how could God be "all in all"?

1 Cor 15:20-28 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the consummation, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.


So does Christ reign forever and ever or does His reign come to an end someday?

Does Christ accomplish all that the Father gave Him to do or does He never defeat death (death is defeated by His saving work within mankind)?

Clearly, aion aion should be translated as "ages of the ages" to avoid the contradiction. If Christ's reign does not end, neither will the ages. And if they do not end, how can eternity ever start?

But Paul says Christ's reign will come to an end someday because Christ will accomplish His work with the full salvation of mankind. Death will be defeated. If, as the JW believe, most of mankind remains dead forever, how can Christ claim to have defeated death? He couldn't - it would be a lie. Death can only be defeated if no one is dead.

1Cor 15:55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

Since mankind is already dead in their sins, how could Christ claim that He is the Savior of the world if He doesn't save everyone?

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

[myth-one.com]

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

You must have me confused with someone else.

[FaithWillDo]

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

You must have me confused with someone else.

Dear myth-one.com
Please enlighten me with what you believe then. Do you consider yourself a Christian or do you have no faith in Christ?
Joe

[myth-one.com]

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

You must have me confused with someone else.

Dear myth-one.com
Please enlighten me with what you believe then. Do you consider yourself a Christian or do you have no faith in Christ?
Joe

Yes, I am a Christian.

[FaithWillDo]

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

You must have me confused with someone else.

Dear myth-one.com
Please enlighten me with what you believe then. Do you consider yourself a Christian or do you have no faith in Christ?
Joe

Yes, I am a Christian.

So why did you say I was confused about you beliefs when I said this to you?:

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Are you saying that you believe as I do, that Christ will save all mankind and that He does so because it is God's "will" and work to make it happen and "none can stay His hand"?

Joe

[myth-one.com]

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

You must have me confused with someone else.

Dear myth-one.com
Please enlighten me with what you believe then. Do you consider yourself a Christian or do you have no faith in Christ?
Joe

Yes, I am a Christian.

So why did you say I was confused about you beliefs when I said this to you?:

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Are you saying that you believe as I do, that Christ will save all mankind and that He does so because it is God's "will" and work to make it happen and "none can stay His hand"?

Joe

No, neither of those is correct.

[FaithWillDo]

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Joe

You must have me confused with someone else.

Dear myth-one.com
Please enlighten me with what you believe then. Do you consider yourself a Christian or do you have no faith in Christ?
Joe

Yes, I am a Christian.

So why did you say I was confused about you beliefs when I said this to you?:

Your doctrines teach that Christ only saves a few and that those few were only saved because they were wiser or smarter or were simply not as evil as those who rejected Christ. That teaching is a doctrine of works and is "of this world". Mankind is spiritually marred and subject to vanity. Only Christ can change us from within by giving us the Holy Spirit. Mankind cannot save themselves. We must be "born again" with a new spiritual nature and that is solely the work of Christ to accomplish. He is the only one who can do it. The Old Covenant of Law was given to prove that truth to mankind. Then after we come to that realization, we are lead to Christ and His work of salvation.

Are you saying that you believe as I do, that Christ will save all mankind and that He does so because it is God's "will" and work to make it happen and "none can stay His hand"?

Joe

No, neither of those is correct.

Dear myth-one.com,
There are many, many scriptures that say what I stated above is absolutely true and there are zero verses that say otherwise. I have posted several of the verses on this thread but mankind cannot accept them as truth. It is always amazing to me how how crafty and deceiving the carnal mind is!!!

Scripture clearly says that Christ is the Savior of mankind and not just some of mankind:

Matt 18:11-14 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost. How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Christ came to save the lost. Are we not all lost?

So why did Christ come to save mankind? He came because His Father sent Him to save us:

1John 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.

And since it is NOT the "will" of God the Father that anyone should perish, how can you continue to believe that some will perish???

Isa 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Is the God you know so weak that He can't overcome mankind's supposed "free will"? Scripture clearly says that mankind's "will" is no match for the power of God:

Dan 4:35 And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; and he doeth according to his will in the army of the heavens, and among the inhabitants of the earth; and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

In fact, scripture says that God controls the "will" of mankind so completely, that God accomplishes all this desires in this world - and He desires to save us all.

Isa 64:8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

Jer 10:23 I know, Jehovah, that the way of man is not his own; it is not in a man that walketh to direct his steps.

Prov 16:1 The preparations of the heart in man, and the answer of the tongue, is from the LORD.

Prov 20:24 Man's goings are of the LORD; how can a man then understand his own way?

Phil 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

John 1:13 : Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, BUT OF GOD.

We are saved not because it is mankind's "will" to be saved - we are saved because it is the "will" of God to save us. When the end of Christ's reign over mankind ends, the final age will also come to an end. At this time, this verse will be testified to be true:

1 Tim 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

Look at this verse:

Matt 21:31 Which of the two was obeying his father?" They replied, "The first, of course." Then Jesus explained his meaning: "I assure you, corrupt tax collectors and prostitutes will get into the Kingdom of God before you do.

Christ made this statement to the chief priests of the temple who were about to crucify Him. It was the perfect opportunity for Christ to tell them that they would never be saved - but He said no such thing to them. Christ loves them every bit as much as He loves you and me and He is going to save them, too. They just will not be in the harvest of His First Fruits of this age.

Can you imagine anyone who is less deserving of salvation than the chief priests who crucified Christ? And yet, Christ said that they would be saved, just not before the tax collectors and prostitutes are.

After reading these verses, why do you believe that Christ's mission to save the world is going to be a failure? Why do you believe that mankind's supposed "free will" is so powerful, that even God can't overcome it?

Don't you get your understanding of the truth from scripture???

Joe