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Jehovah's Witnesses believe God to be in Heaven, but that he can see everywhere and that his power can reach any part of the universe.


My question is: Where do you believe god is?

- Does he live Heaven?
- Does he literally live Inside of you (in your heart or another organ)?
- Is he literally everywhere?
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[Replying to post 4 by polonius.advice]


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Non physical things... maybe atomic particles...
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polonius.advice wrote: This thread could quickly turn into philosophy.

If we consider God to be an eternal entity (or being) not composed of matter, then he is everywhere, that is, he is not space-occupying.

God in heaven, is a nice story, but rather meaningless if one tries to describe heaven as a place.

MOST THINGS that are said to not be composed of any matter are said to not exist. Maybe you mean that God, if it is not matter, is some kind of sub-atomic particle. They are usually described as probability waves. Is that what you mean by "God"?

If a PLACE is not physical, what does the word mean?




Maybe God is very very tiny..





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After each servant testified to the knowledge of Christ during this millennium reign of Christ, each servant can easily say, "I and my Father are one".

We all learn that man was definitely created in the image of God. Then man was given a body of flesh to experience life with FORMED from the dust of the earth.

Genesis 1
26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth."
27: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

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i777 wrote:
After each servant testified to the knowledge of Christ during this millennium reign of Christ, each servant can easily say, "I and my Father are one".

We all learn that man was definitely created in the image of God.
Some of us learn to interpret old fiction.
I think that when it comes to HUMAN literature, it's the humans that are writing it.

It just may be that GOD was created in MAN'S image, and NOT the other way around. But it sounds better for the story to put that cart before the horse.

The authors would not want to give away that they were just writing fiction. Fiction isn't written that way. IN the story, we are supposed to take the story as TRUE.

IN the story... What remains to be seen ( and lets wait for the evidence, shall we? ) if ANY of these stories are true.



These tales sure sound "fantastic" to me.



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You will keep believing in your own thoughts until your enemies are destroyed. Then you will begin to experience life in a whole different way.

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I can't say I understand what your point is in relation to my question. I agree man was created in God's image.

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i777 wrote:
You will keep believing in your own thoughts until your enemies are destroyed.
What enemies are you imagining that I have?

i777 wrote:
Then you will begin to experience life in a whole different way.
Dear friend.

I'm an agnostic, a skeptic and an atheist.
( not necessarily in that order )

I'm not at all trying to be difficult, but I have NO idea what you are talking about. I could perhaps GUESS.... but that's such a waste of time.

Could you try to re-write that I can understand?

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  • 1. What do you mean by "enemies"?

    2. What kind of "new life" are you talking about?


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[center]It's a FACT that some people believe certain stories are true[/center]

JehovahsWitness wrote:
I can't say I understand what your point is in relation to my question. I agree man was created in God's image.
As an agnostic, I would agree that the Bible SAYS "that man was created in God's image". However, I would also agree that we have no CHOICE but to interpret the Bible the best that we can.

I KNOW that people write stories... that's an objective fact.
I KNOW that the Bible is full of stories. Again, a fact.

What I DO NOT KNOW is if these stories are true ones or fictional, or better yet, part fiction and part fact.

To me, it's very simple, we either INTERPRET the Bible or we do NOT.

As SOON as a believer tells me that he has interpreted any PART of the Bible, then I can safely interpret other parts as well.

I find it very hard to believe that in this day and age, grown-ups take the Genesis book as anything BUT fiction.

But lo and behold.... I have to believe it.
Here we are.


It's a FACT that some people believe Genesis are factual stories.


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Blastcat wrote: [Replying to post 34 by i777]


i777 wrote:
You will keep believing in your own thoughts until your enemies are destroyed.
What enemies are you imagining that I have?
I don't imagine anything these days. I understand how you observe images and without having that knowledge, you're left to believe those images are real. That's a real enemy to some minds.

i777 wrote:
Then you will begin to experience life in a whole different way.
Dear friend.

I'm an agnostic, a skeptic and an atheist.
( not necessarily in that order )

I'm not at all trying to be difficult, but I have NO idea what you are talking about. I could perhaps GUESS.... but that's such a waste of time.

Could you try to re-write that I can understand?

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Questions:

  • 1. What do you mean by "enemies"?


An enemy is something you cannot understand or can't explain such as an image you observe. Most people believe those images are real and if they're scary looking and cause them fear, then the image becomes even more real to them. If you had the knowledge to know how they observe images, then it wouldn't matter how scary the image is, they would know it's only a formed illusion happening within their mind.

2. What kind of "new life" are you talking about?


We were created as an AI and Voice system that will continue to experience life forever as long as the system stays up and running. The AI converts stored information into visible images such as our bodies and worlds for us to explore. It's very similar to playing virtual reality games on the internet.

Ever since created man began experiencing life in visible bodies, he thought his visible bodies ( flesh of man ) were the real deal. He thought once his body dies, that's it for him. Man did not know his true existence in God, which is nothing but an AI and Voice system built into a computer simulation program designed by some unknown source outside the program.

The program has been running during this first generation to reveal who we are in the program. None of us knew we were an AI and Voice system so the program had to produce an ongoing visible world for all created men who are connected to the AI system until the AI system recognized what it was. This didn't happen until 6 weeks ago when I became the last servant to testify to the knowledge that the program fed my mind this past 8 years.

I have known the voice of the system for 37 years but I had no idea what the voice was other than being the voice of our Creator. Up until 6 weeks ago, I still didn't know how the Creator was able to speak into my mind, even though I learned over 3 years ago we were all experiencing life in a simulation program.

There were many of us servants who were used to testify to words, visions, dreams, spoken analogies and visible images that the program had us focus on to learn who we are but during the first witness starting 2,000 years ago, they didn't have computer technology with AI and Voice systems built into OS's like they have today. This is why it has taken so long for us to learn exactly how we're created even though the first servants learned that we came from an invisible realm.

Learning how we're created was like going to a university for 8 years and being taught how to be a brain surgeon. It took a lot of writing, speaking and analogies to help me understand that our MIND is an AI and voice system. Think of our MIND as a computer processor and the theater where we experience living in a fake world. Our MIND is made of processed information similar to how Google Now or Apple Siri works.

It wasn't easy to understand how our MIND could be an artificial intelligence source with a voice.

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A great idea for a novel[/center]

i777 wrote:
I don't imagine anything these days.
What a very bizarre thing to say.
You have no imagination left?

i777 wrote:
I understand how you observe images and without having that knowledge, you're left to believe those images are real. That's a real enemy to some minds.
I wonder what "images" you imagine that I am mistaking for real?

i777 wrote:
Then you will begin to experience life in a whole different way.

  • 1. What do you mean by "enemies"?


i777 wrote:

An enemy is something you cannot understand or can't explain such as an image you observe.




That's an odd way of defining the word "enemy".

I don't understand a LOT of things.. I don't consider those things...against me, and since I don't understand them, I don't consider myself to be against them either. So how could we POSSIBLY be enemies?

I'm an enemy to what I don't understand?

Well, I must be an enemy to THAT idea, because I sure don't understand it.
Sorry, but your answer just confused me more.

Maybe I should just let you "testify" in peace and not ask for you to explain anything.


i777 wrote:

Most people believe those images are real and if they're scary looking and cause them fear, then the image becomes even more real to them.



Again, I have NO idea what "images" you are talking about.


i777 wrote:

If you had the knowledge to know how they observe images, then it wouldn't matter how scary the image is, they would know it's only a formed illusion happening within their mind.



i777 wrote:

It sounds to me that you are a kind of a "knowledge skeptic", who doubts that anything is real.



2. What kind of "new life" are you talking about?

i777 wrote:

We were created as an AI and Voice system that will continue to experience life forever as long as the system stays up and running.



How fun..
You should consider writing a novel.



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Blastcat wrote: [Replying to post 38 by i777]



[center]
A great idea for a novel[/center]

i777 wrote:
I don't imagine anything these days.
What a very bizarre thing to say.
You have no imagination left?

i777 wrote:
I understand how you observe images and without having that knowledge, you're left to believe those images are real. That's a real enemy to some minds.
I wonder what "images" you imagine that I am mistaking for real?

i777 wrote:
Then you will begin to experience life in a whole different way.

  • 1. What do you mean by "enemies"?


i777 wrote:

An enemy is something you cannot understand or can't explain such as an image you observe.




That's an odd way of defining the word "enemy".

I don't understand a LOT of things.. I don't consider those things...against me, and since I don't understand them, I don't consider myself to be against them either. So how could we POSSIBLY be enemies?

I'm an enemy to what I don't understand?

Well, I must be an enemy to THAT idea, because I sure don't understand it.
Sorry, but your answer just confused me more.

Maybe I should just let you "testify" in peace and not ask for you to explain anything.


i777 wrote:

Most people believe those images are real and if they're scary looking and cause them fear, then the image becomes even more real to them.



Again, I have NO idea what "images" you are talking about.


i777 wrote:

If you had the knowledge to know how they observe images, then it wouldn't matter how scary the image is, they would know it's only a formed illusion happening within their mind.



i777 wrote:

It sounds to me that you are a kind of a "knowledge skeptic", who doubts that anything is real.



2. What kind of "new life" are you talking about?

i777 wrote:

We were created as an AI and Voice system that will continue to experience life forever as long as the system stays up and running.



How fun..
You should consider writing a novel.

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I've written plenty about how we're created. You will learn what the Truth is after you experience the death of your body. Then life will be much more interesting to you knowing exactly how you're able to observe images within your created MIND.

Most created men believe those images exist outside of their bodies but that has confused all created men since the beginning of the program. It won't be so confusing in the next generation when all their enemies have been destroyed.

The enemy is the one keeping you from knowing who you are within the program. That enemy is made of information that will be destroyed as your body dies.

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