onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:34 pm
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:26 pm
PinSeeker wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:52 pm
Jesus is 100 percent of the Father... and 100 percent of man. This is the
only way He can be our Mediator (as Hebrews is crystal clear on).
I dont know what you mean by the above but if it is
that the resurrected Christ is presently equal in power and position to The Father, then please provide the reference.
I would like to see the reference also.
Paul is very clear about this in all his letters, particularly Philippians (specifically 2:5-11) and Colossians. I am very well aware of the Watchtower's attempted revision of these passages to fit their narrative, but it is what it is.
onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:34 pm
My understanding is that Jesus was back in heaven when Paul had these words penned: "I would have you know, brothers, that ...the head of Christ is God." (God being Jehovah, the Father.) I Corinthians 11:3.
Well let's look at the whole passage, onewithhim, instead of just cherry-picking. I mean, just that one verse will suffice, but what you cut out with that little ellipse is very, very important:
"But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God."
Paul put it right after the man-wife relationship purposefully in order to press the headship analogy. He is saying that a Man’s headship over his wife is
like -- thus the conjunctions, 'and' -- God’s headship over Christ. And the main way they are similar is that even though Christ submits to God the Father, that submission doesn’t make him inferior to his Father in terms of deity. And, likewise, husband and wife are equally created in God’s image and have equal value and dignity before God as persons, and that equality is not diminished at all by the fact that the man is head over his wife. Difference does not mean inequality. Different roles for men and women within the covenant of marriage do not imply inequality between men and women as persons. And coming back again, different roles for the Father and the Son within the triune Jehovah (along with the Holy Spirit, of course) do not imply inequality of any sort between the three Persons of the Godhead, the triune Jehovah. So Christ’s deity and His oneness and equality -- and glory -- with the Father is not diminished in any way by his mediatorial submission to his Father.
Grace and peace to both of you.