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does the koran has miracles, that prove -koran is from god-

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the question is ---does the koran has miracles, that prove that koran is from god ?
i will give you the evidences one by one
so we can discuss it one by one

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the Holy Quran Chapter 14: Ibrahim


[14:2] Alif Lam Ra. This is a Book which We have revealed to thee that thou mayest bring mankind out of every kind of darkness into light, by the command of their Lord, to the path of the Mighty, the Praiseworthy



''Iron is one of the elements highlighted in the Qur’an. In Surat al-Hadid, meaning Iron, we are informed:
…And We sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind.... (Surat al-Hadid: 25)

The word “sent down� particularly used for iron in the verse, could be thought of having a metaphorical meaning to explain that iron is given to the service of people. But when we take into consideration the literal meaning of the word, which is, “being physically sent down from the sky�, we realize that this verse implies a very significant scientific miracle.

This is because modern astronomical findings have disclosed that the metal of iron found in our world has come down from the giant stars in outer space.

The heavy metals in the universe are produced in the nucleus of big stars. Our solar system, however, does not have a suitable structure to produce iron on its own. Iron can only be produced in much bigger stars than the sun, where the temperature reaches a few hundred million degrees. When the amount of iron exceeds a certain level in a star, the star can no longer bear it and eventually it explodes in what is called a “nova� or a “supernova�. As a result of this explosion, meteors containing iron are scattered around the universe and they move through the void until attracted by the gravitational force of a celestial body.

All this shows that the iron metal did not form on the earth but was carried from exploding stars in space via meteorsand was “sent down to earth� exactly the same way as stated in the verse: It is clear that this fact could not have been scientifically known in the 7th century, when the Qur’an was revealed.

( And We sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind.) (Surat al-Hadid: 25)

In addition, the 25th verse of Surat al-Hadid, which refers to iron, includes two interesting mathematical codes. Surat al-Hadid is the 57th Surah in the Qur’an. The numerical value of the word “Al-Hadid� in Arabic, in other words its Abjad, is the same number: 57. The numerical value of the word “Hadid� alone is 26, and 26 is the atomic number of iron''



http://quran-m.com/firas/en1/index.php? ... itstart=27

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The importance of this kind of confirmation lies in the object used for swearing here, which is described in a way tantamount to black holes. The black holes are running stars that move in their poles, and hide themselves after having been obvious, as they are at the end of their lives. They produce no light due to their gravity which enables them to gravitate everything in their way and clear their way by swallowing up everything around. The Ever-Glorious Qur'an describes them as being ‘cleaners’ in conformity with the scientific description. The Qur’anic description which confirms the scientific one stands as decisive evidence that the Ever-Glorious Qur'an is the true word of Allah - Glory be to Him.
I find it surprising you claim the koran is the perfect word of god but have to add words that are not in the koran in order to make a vague proof. Take the passage as it is and it is a decent ancient description of the movement of the other planets as seen from earth. Black holes are not vacuum cleaners, they take in matter and spew out gamma rays.

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The word “sent down� particularly used for iron in the verse, could be thought of having a metaphorical meaning to explain that iron is given to the service of people. But when we take into consideration the literal meaning of the word, which is, “being physically sent down from the sky�, we realize that this verse implies a very significant scientific miracle.
Iron meteorites were not unknown in the ancient world and makes a lot more sense than going into a contrived explanation as to what you think it might mean.

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While referring to the sun and the moon in the Qur’an, it is emphasized that each moves in a certain orbit.

( It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon.They swim along, each in an orbit.) (Surat al-Anbiya, 33)

It is mentioned in another verse too that the sun is not static but moves in a certain orbit:

( And the sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.) (Surah Ya Sin, 38)


These facts communicated in the Qur’an have been discovered by astronomical observations in our age. According to the calculations of experts on astronomy, the sun is traveling at the enormous speed of 720 thousand kilometers an hour in the direction of the star Vega in a particular orbit called the Solar Apex. This means that the sun travels roughly 17 million and 280 thousand kilometers a day. Along with the sun, all planets and satellites within the gravitational system of the sun also travel the same distance. In addition, all the stars in the universe are in a similar planned motion.


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mlex wrote:While referring to the sun and the moon in the Qur’an, it is emphasized that each moves in a certain orbit.

( It is He Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon.They swim along, each in an orbit.) (Surat al-Anbiya, 33)
This fits in perfectly with a geocentric solar system. This passage speaks of the sun and the moon and how they both move in a similar way which is understandable from a geocentric viewpoint but makes no sense if you take your explanation of galactic orbits.
It is mentioned in another verse too that the sun is not static but moves in a certain orbit

( And the sun runs to its resting place. That is the decree of the Almighty, the All-Knowing.) (Surah Ya Sin, 38)
This does not say anything at all about the sun moving in an orbit, it says the sun goes towards its resting place which fits in with the ancient greek belief that the sun made its way across the earth being pulled by a chariot driven by Apollo.

Accept that the koran is a religious book not a science text, going to the extremes you have in order to make it appear as if it has modern knowledge is simply sad for your faith.

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