Whenever you feel scared or sometimes desperate, as an atheist who do you call on in times of crisis, , or what do you do? Someone posed the question...what is different between Christianity and other religions? After a lifetime of searching (off and on), I have(subject to change), realized my answer. And that is I don't know. And part of THAT is because I don't know the answer I just posed to you. Throughout my life I have been hot and cold in my relationship with the Lord. Married but chased woman, divorce, re-marry. Never had a drinking problem, but have smoked allot of pot in my day. Honest otherwise and pay my bills. I could <b>almost</b> retire today at forty seven if I chose to. So anyway I have spent allot of time having a relationship with Jesus, pretty much since I was very young. I have not really doubted God exists. I don't know why that is, my parents could of cared less. It just seems Jesus has been there my whole life, even when I would tell him to go away and eat shit. But as a friend sometimesI would not talk to him maybe but a couple times a year. Other times I would be so close to him and be totally enveloped in him that it is so hard to explain. But even so in all of my travels he would be with me even if I wasn't talking to him. But always in the back of my mind it has given me a comfort in feeling safe. In motels in a strange town.Contemplating life while working out running the dirt roads on the back of the base will serving in the Marines in Japan. To being there when my children had/have a high fever or worse. Driving in a terrible storm. The Bible said God will send the comforter(Holy Spirit), which is part of the truine God.
Now some will argue that is a crutch for mindless nimbelsils. Please don't think that. With all kinds of effort and energy and even money going in to exposing God as a fraud, has that really happened yet beyond a shadow of a doubt? I suppose atheist could say the same thing, and to many they are right. It doesn't matter. All the slide rules and equations and theories can not measure that personal relationship, when you allow him to be your best friend.
The Bible in Job talks about the "streams in the sea", yet we as a people we didn't know about that until 1977. We discovered light causes wind 150 years ago, written in Job hundreds and hundreds of years ago. Noah's instruction's regarding dimentions to build a boat, 150 feet longer than any wooden ship we can build today. The navy has done studies and concluded(even if it doesn't exist) if you were to build a wooden boat to withstand a world wide flood, those are the EXACT dimentions it would take for it to survive. That was written forty forty hundred years ago! Thousands of exciting examples are within these pages. "As far as the East is from the West", is very cool because had it of said as far as the North is from the South you have a measurable distance because of the Poles. Just so many cool things to read about in the Bible.
In summary. Who do you have in your life that is always going to be there no matter what? Who I may add is four dimentional, and will still be there for you beyond the grave? I don't belive that can be measured. I would feel so naked and exposed and vulnerable if I didn't have that.
Again a crutch? Or a comfort? I believe in the Comforter who gives you that serenity and peace. Where does your inner peace come from? Just because we as Christians have our "spiritual" side covered, doesn't mean we have shut our brains off at the door. You can have both! God not only loves us he loves the sciences as well. As an Atheist who is your comforter?
Crutch or Comfort
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bernee51 wrote:Is the topic Crutch or comfort?upnorthfan wrote:
second request to stay on topic please. Thanks.
Or your 'relationship' with Jesus?
Or "streams in the sea"?
Or Noah's supposed boat?
Or lots of other rooly kool words in the bible?
Or your nakedness and vulnerabilty without your belief in your god?
What exactly is the topic?
...or we can talk about the above.
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If it's other than "Crutch or Comfort", please start other threads on those. Otherwise, please continue to stay on topic with the first choice. Thanks.Sender wrote:bernee51 wrote:Is the topic Crutch or comfort?upnorthfan wrote:
second request to stay on topic please. Thanks.
Or your 'relationship' with Jesus?
Or "streams in the sea"?
Or Noah's supposed boat?
Or lots of other rooly kool words in the bible?
Or your nakedness and vulnerabilty without your belief in your god?
What exactly is the topic?
...or we can talk about the above.