The God of Glory spoke creation into existence

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The God of Glory spoke creation into existence

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Thesis: The author of the Bible an d the One telling the story of creation is the God of Eternity, and He He permanently and eternally abides in a temple made without hands, and from His own temple, He spoke creation into existence by lifting up His voice of and from His own bodily form; Jesus Christ


Firstly, ALL scripture is authored by God. All writers wrote the scripture under or through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, if the Bible says it, God said it. If God said it, it is true whether we believe it or not.

Jesus said to the seventy : "he who heareth you, hearethh me." This was and is Jesus' attitude toward all of the scripture. Another example is found in John 5:45-47. Jesus said to the Jews who were persecuting Him "But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words? IOW's if you don't believe what God has said, then how can you believe what I am saying, I speak the words of God, because I am not only the son of man, but I AM also God.
All scripture are truly words spoken by God. Whenever the scriptures are quoted, God is the One that is heard.

Matt 22:31-32
But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: 32I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB? He (God) is not the God of the dead but of the living.


Job 3:23: Job sought the temple or tabernacle of God (fixed place where God resides), but could not find it, for it had not been revealed to him.

John 2:19-22: Jesus said He (His bodily form) was the temple of God. The temple made without hands.

Col 1:19: Jesus was eternally purposed to be the permanent and fixed dwelling of ALL the fullness of God

Col 2:9: Jesus is the permanent and eternal dwelling of ALL the fullness of God in bodily form (the resurrection and ascended Christ is the Glory of God that Moses saw the hinder parts of. Moses wrote about Him).

1 Cor 15:20-28, 27-28:P This is the depiction and description of who God is, in the end. God the Father subjected all things to the son of man (excepting Himself). After all His works were finished, the son, subjects himself in bodily form to God the Father, so God could be the ALL in ALL. This is the picture of who the God of eternity is. This is the God of the eternal day of creation; the true Sabbath day of God. The day that never ends.

Mark 2:27-28: For the above stated reason, this explains what Jesus meant when He said "man was not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath was made for man, therefore, the son of man, is Lord of the Sabbath.

Now, here is the thing: The author of the Bible and the One telling the story of His creation, is the eternal God depicted and described through the invisible thread of the Scriptures (I quoted enough to connect the dots, but many more scriptures lead to the same place because the Scriptures testify about the Glory of God: Jesus Christ).

Therefore, the Bible is written and God has spoken from His eternal place in Heaven. However, we still exist in the fullness of time of God's works. Even though He finished them before the foundation of the world.

If God finished His works before He made man (He did), then He spoke creation into existence from his place in eternity (He did), which is depicted in 1 Cor 15:20-28, 27-28 (it is, God eternally dwells in bodily form of the son of man, Jesus Christ).

We should now understand why Col 1:16-17 says all things were created by Him and through Him (God spoke creation by the voice and through the bodily form of Jesus Christ). God spoke creation into existence and the One who lifted up His voice is the One who is the ALL in ALL depicted in 1 Cor 15:27-28; All the fullness of God, eternally dwelling in the bodily form of His own Glory; Jesus Christ.

This means the voice that was heard at Jesus' baptism of John's baptism into repentance and at the transfiguration, came from God, the ALL in ALL. Why or how? Even before the foundation of the world, God finished all His works, therefore God is the God as depicted and described in 1 Cor 15:20-28, 27-28) that spoke creation into existence. He is also the only God that has ever spoken to man about who He is. He eternally abides in the bodily form of His own Glory; Jesus Christ.

This is the God of eternity and this is the only God that has ever spoken!

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Re: The God of Glory spoke creation into existence

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B Bob wrote: [Replying to dio9]

Your assuming things that i did not state or imply. The Bible is the word of God. God is the author. The God of eternity is depicted and described in the scriptures and culminates with Him being in the bodily form of the son of man Jesus Christ. It is this God of eternity that speaks whenever and wherever God speaks. Nothing more, nothing less.
RESPONSE: Perhaps a whole lot less. What actual evidence do you have to establish that the Bible is really the word of God (in spite of its many errors and contradictions) or is it just something that you were told you must believe, and it makes you feel good to believe it?

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Re: The God of Glory spoke creation into existence

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hoghead1 wrote: [Replying to post 47 by Yahu]

Very interesting. Love to hear more. The Christian mystical literature is rich in erotic imagery, suggesting sex is a way of communing with God.
Actually sex was the way to commune with the pagan gods, mainly Baal and Ashtoreth but homosexual acts were done in Molech worship along with the killing of unwanted children from hetero sex.

Of course even the Israelites mixed in the Baalim worship with Judaism many times which is what the prophets were battling against. Yah forbids the planting of an Asherah at the His alter and forbids taking the price of a prostitute (or dog, gay male prostitute) to His temple to pay for a ritual prostitute in His worship.

In the Baalim worship, young girls virginity was sacrificed to the prophets of Baal then used as ritual prostitutes until they had a firstborn child which was offered to Molech, generally on the anniversary of the loss of their virginity. They had to be able to use the largest diameter Asherah Pole (a young tree trunk carved as a phallic symbol but still rooted in the ground) to gain the gods blessings to then marry. They generally couldn't use the largest of them until after giving birth to open the passage large enough.

The grove was located at the head of a valley between two ridges. The grove was planted on top. It represented the crotch of 'mother earth', ie Asherah, laying on her back with the trees being her pubic area. The children were sacrificed in the valley below, between her legs at the sacred pool representing her vaginal opening. This is where the fruit of the womb was sacrificed to Molech. Baal and Ashtoreth were worshiped in the grove above while Molech and Asherah in the valley below while the trees were sacred to the father of the gods, the consort of Asherah, father of Molech and Ashtoreth.

Baal and Ashtoreth were mother and son but also lovers but with Ashtoreth dominant as mother. Ashtoreth and Molech were twins, brother and sister.

In the Greek pantheon, the twins were Apollo and Artemis with Asherah as Gaia/Leto the consort of Zeus. Ashtoreth was both Artemis (in her youth) and Aphrodite in later life where as the Greeks split her into two different personas to be worshiped under different attributes.

Here is a picture of the valley of Hinnom, the valley and grove location outside Jerusalem. The grove would have been planted on the bald white area at the top of the valley. The children were sacrificed in the valley at the 'serpents pool'.

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Re: The God of Glory spoke creation into existence

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[Replying to Yahu]

Yes, true. I'm just pointing that there is an erotic dimension to Christianity, which is found in the mystical tradition, which is, unfortunately, generally overlooked in modern theological study.

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