Cultural Christians.

[William]

Elon Musk has identified himself as a cultural Christian in a new interview.

"While Im not a particularly religious person, I do believe that the teachings of Jesus are good and wise I would say Im probably a cultural Christian," the Tesla CEO said during a conversation on X with Jordan Peterson today. "Theres tremendous wisdom in turning the other cheek."

Christian beliefs, Musk argued, "result in the greatest happiness for humanity, considering not just the present, but all future humans Im actually a big believer in the principles of Christianity. I think theyre very good."

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For debate.

Q: Is it better for the world to be a Cultural Christian than an all-out anti-theist?

Also.

Q: Is it better to be a Cultural Christian that belong to any organised Christian religion?

Cultural Christian Definition = Anyone that believes that the teachings of Jesus are good and wise.

[William]

...I've seen people who I've observed for a long time and they never made a significant mistake (not like, a typo, like an error in judgment) in my observation.

So they have made mistakes but not those you personally assess to be "significant". If we take perfect to be no mistakes, at all, then nobody's perfect.

What of Jesus teaching then, re Matthew 5:48?

[Athetotheist]

[Replying to William in post #63]

Can you make a case for the former over the latter?

Can you, since you are the one who brought this argument into the discussion.

I take that to mean that you can't.

I am not arguing for or against Cultural Christianity. You appear to be the one doing that.

So - - in relation to your protestations, would you rather a small number of individuals become obscenely wealthy and many to starve, or would you prefer something different?

Which of those would more closely match Cultural Christianity?

[William]

[Replying to Athetotheist in post #82]

I offered my view on this in post#7.

If you can make a case for whatever view you have, I would be interested, but not to worry if you can't/don't want to.

Which of those would more closely match Cultural Christianity?

The definition was given as "Anyone that believes that the teachings of Jesus are good and wise."

[Purple Knight]

I don't think typos count in any serious discussions about mistakes...

Regardless of gravity, a mistake is an error and that is why people say "nobody's perfect" rather than "nobody has done time for drink driving" It may be expedient for you to attempt to modify language to suit your personal philosophy, but some of us are not smoke-screened or impressed by many words without substance.

But this was a discussion about needing to be forgiven because of making mistakes. Yes I admit I ramble, I should try not to, but I was going from your starting statement, which to me implied a mistake in the context (the context of not being perfect) was something somebody would have to apologise for.

You have met a person that has never made a mistake even as a child? You have met a few people that have never done or even thought anything wrong and has never needed to apologise a single time in their lives?

[Purple Knight]

What do you think shouldn't be on Jim Palmer's list then?

Let's start with seeing human beings as sinners. According to the Bible he absolutely did and one of the parables is about how everyone has sinned and needs to be forgiven, The Unforgiving Slave.

[oldbadger]

Are you arguing that it is a bit of a stretch that Elon doesn't think the teachings of Jesus are good and wise?

A bit of a stretch........yes.

No. What did Jesus think about that and are you saying that Elon does this?

You don't know what Jesus said and did to show his feelings about mammon? OK, I've just gone to get a bible, I opened it to anywhere in G-Mark and saw the story of the rich man Mark 20:21... and read a very short way.
I could have selected any of several such passages.

[JehovahsWitness]

...I was going from your starting statement, which to me implied a mistake in the context (the context of not being perfect) was something somebody would have to apologise for.

Even typos should be apologised for, especially if they impact someone else. Even if they don't the are evident one has not for perfect control over ones hand eye coordination: this is not perfection.

[William]

What do you think shouldn't be on Jim Palmer's list then?

Let's start with seeing human beings as sinners. According to the Bible he absolutely did and one of the parables is about how everyone has sinned and needs to be forgiven, The Unforgiving Slave.

Let's imagine this is true?

[William]

[Replying to oldbadger in post #86]

Are you saying that Jesus would not support the initiatives Elon is making re how his money is invested?

[oldbadger]

[Replying to oldbadger in post #86]

Are you saying that Jesus would not support the initiatives Elon is making re how his money is invested?

Ah, you're impressed by the good servants lazy servant chat?

I'm much more impressed by Jesus's rejection of Mammon, camels stuck in needles and so forth....... or Jesus telling the rich man to sell off everything and give to the poor.

But the good servants lazy servant story does give rich fat comfortable capitalist Christians an out, I guess.