Evolutionist Discrimination in Public Education.

[jcrawford]

There are currently five categories which the U.S. legally recognizes in which persons may voluntarily identify and classify themselves as, according to their self-evident, self-recognized and self-identified common ancestral racial traits of national and geographic origins. None of these categories are Homo sapiens.

http://atlas.usafa.af.mil/meo/Discri~1.htm

http://www.withylaw.com/distopic.htm

http://www.wvf.state.wv.us/eeo/NO.htm

http://mountain-prairie.fws.gov/dcr/Basis.htm

http://www.niehs.nih.gov/oeeo/national.htm

As far as the U.S. legal system is concerned, there does not seem to be any legally protected class of persons called Homo sapiens or any ancestral category of persons named Homo erectus from whom Homo sapiens are believed by neo-Darwinists to have descended.

Since it may reasonably be considered to be a violation of their civil rights to have their human ancestors related to, or called, anything other than what the U.S. Government recognizes as legally protected classes of persons, I respectfully submit that teachers and students in U.S. public school systems who publically volunteer to self-identify and self-classify themselves as members of any of the legally recognized and protected classes of persons established by law, may not be involuntarily labeled and classified as Homo sapiens in public schools without their written consent or the written consent of their parents or legal guardians.

Otherwise, if state governments continue to mandate and impose evolutionary neo-Darwinist beliefs and teachings about the human ancestry of the five legitimate racial catagories in which students and teachers have voluntarily chosen to identify and classify themselves as, then public school students and teachers have every right to sue the state for civil rights violations and a redress of racial and ancestral grievances.

[jcrawford]

Quit writing your making everyone look superior.

I suppose my writing is the sole cause of your neo-Darwinist superiority complex.

[steen]

I'm neither a Homo nor a Homo Neanderthal or Homo sapiens either, despite being happy and gay.

What an odd and bizzare nonsense statement. You are a Homo sapeins sapiens. THAT is your species.

Could all H. sapiens racial groups or subspecies evolve into a new species someday, or just some of them?

All could, of course. Any sub population of any size can evolve into a new species if the environment is condusive to this.

[steen]

No they will never observe anything evolving into another new species.

At least among hominids. There are cases like this:
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm

Clear example of a single mutation resulting in a new species.

[jcrawford]

I'm neither a Homo nor a Homo Neanderthal or Homo sapiens either, despite being happy and gay.

What an odd and bizzare nonsense statement. You are a Homo sapeins sapiens. THAT is your species.

Nonsense. That's just a neo-Darwinist subspecies label imposed on all human beings by scientific socialists and racial imperialists.

Could all H. sapiens racial groups or subspecies evolve into a new species someday, or just some of them?

All could, of course. Any sub population of any size can evolve into a new species if the environment is condusive to this.

So all 5 racial groups in America could all evolve into one or five new species at the same time. What a bizarre theory.

[Grumpy]

jcrawford

So all 5 racial groups in America could all evolve into one or five new species at the same time. What a bizarre theory.

Once again we are treated to a display of total ignorance from John.There is only one species of man on Earth, and no races in the scientific sense. The races which seem to occupy your rather limited intellect are a social construct of racists like you appear to be.

If civilization fails tommorrow and natural selection pressures are again applicable to man then man may evolve into one or a hundred new species in a million years or so, it depends on how many small groups are isolated from interbreeding with each other or with the rest of mankind, what kinds of selective pressures are imposed by the environment and how long they remain isolated. Most likely, judging by the past, only one or two new variant species will survive the isolating events and they may immediately try to eliminate each other(at least in man's case). This is evidently what happened to Neanderthals as Sapiens wiped them out for daring to compete for the same space or resources(we do it to ourselves as well, Native Americans,etc. why would we hesitate to do it to the strange looking slow fellows??)

John, you need a new shtick, the constant obcession with your racism is getting old. Why don't you try to find a subject you know something about and discuss that for a while, maybe you will come across as having some intelligence then, who knows, stranger things have happened???

To continue to insist that you and only those like you had a different source is just plain ignorant, as you are well aware, having been told by everybody else on these forums(fori?) and as shown by the science you are completely unqualified to discuss due to your ignorance of it. It makes you look like those sad specimens holding their rallys and spewing their ignorant hate speech while surrounded by a cordon of police to protect you from harm by the crowds of normal people around you who detest racists and their rhetoric. Noone on these fori brings up race in the discussion except you, the rest of us recognize that as far as science is concerned there are no races and man is one species.

Grumpy 8)

[jcrawford]

Once again we are treated to a display of total ignorance from John.There is only one species of man on Earth, and no races in the scientific sense. The races which seem to occupy your rather limited intellect are a social construct of racists like you appear to be.

Gee, Grumpy, your evolutionist rhetoric in this diatribe almost exceeds mine. How different our respective viewpoints are. You see only one human species on Earth and no human racial groups and I see 5 U.S. racial groups and 5 neo-Darwinist 'species' in human history. Maybe you are just in denial of various human racial groups and in favor of establishing and imposing various neo-Darwinist human 'species' as racial replacements in human history.

[Cathar1950]

jcrawford wrote:

Gee, Grumpy, your evolutionist rhetoric in this diatribe almost exceeds mine. How different our respective viewpoints are. You see only one human species on Earth and no human racial groups and I see 5 U.S. racial groups and 5 neo-Darwinist 'species' in human history. Maybe you are just in denial of various human racial groups and in favor of establishing and imposing various neo-Darwinist human 'species' as racial replacements in human history.

J, I just don't think you understand.
Steen wrote:

At least among hominids. There are cases like this:
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm

Clear example of a single mutation resulting in a new species.

No kidding, cool. Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

[jcrawford]

J, I just don't think you understand.
Steen wrote:

At least among hominids. There are cases like this:
http://www.nmsr.org/nylon.htm

Clear example of a single mutation resulting in a new species.

No kidding, cool. Thanks for the link. Very interesting.

Genetic mutations occur in bacteria all the time but bacteria never evolve into into a living cell.

Genetic mutations occur in Human beings all the time but Human beings never evolve into another species.

[Grumpy]

JC

Genetic mutations occur in bacteria all the time but bacteria never evolve into into a living cell.

Bacteria are living cells already.

Genetic mutations occur in Human beings all the time but Human beings never evolve into another species.

Maybe not in your lifetime, but give it a few hundred generations and who knows(certainly not you)???

Cathar1950 wrote:

J, I just don't think you understand.

I think we could all agree with that.

Grumpy 8)

[Cathar1950]

I think that was really funny Grumpy and I can see why JW would annoy anyone.
JW wrote:

Genetic mutations occur in Human beings all the time but Human beings never evolve into another species.

Just not enough time or reason. Maybe giving some kind of catastrophe and small populations of humans it may happen. I don't think you will be around to watch.