God and the Dinosaurs

[Endlin]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis:

God created everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Unfortunately he must have been looking the other way when his children took from Satan.

So Adam and Eve are now cast out of Eden and are left to populate the world.

What about everything on the inside of the Garden of Eden. At what point did contents of Eden spill over into the world. Animals are unaware of what religion is and therefore must be exempt from judgement so why are they not all still locked away in Gods garden?

Which brings me to Dinosaurs.....
1. Could you imagine how big Noah's ark would have had to of been to not only fit every living creature in female and male but also every species of Dinosaur!

2. If Dinosaurs were around just over two thousand years ago (As most christians believe to be the bibles age, and that it mentions dinosaurs) Do you not think theyre would be some proof in drawn pictures or a general panic written into the Bible as they would have been most likely the top of the food chain at the time.

3. I very much doubt the creator of the universe and everything in it would only allow us this one fragile little planet, and then flood it with Dinosaurs.

All that said i would like to ask one very conclusive question.

- If the Holy spirit/God/Creator of the universe can take absolute nothing and create what we see as the world today in entirity only using his imagination (..In Our Image...) Why can God not dispose of one evil angel (Satan) even though it was he who created everything?

[Jayhawker Soule]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis: ...

Golly gee, Endlin, I never thought of that. In fact, your insightful analysis must certainly constitute remarkably new information to the hundreds upon hundreds of scholars who have studied and discussed Genesis for hundreds upon hundreds of years. Let me ask a question: Have you ever even once read a single respected commentary on Genesis, or did you decide to ridicule it without burdening yourself (or anyone else) with the benefit of an informed opinion?

An "Aetheist" merely looking for a few answers about "Gensis"? Disingenuous rubbish!

[JoeyKnothead]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis: ...

Golly gee, Endlin, I never thought of that. In fact, your insightful analysis must certainly constitute remarkably new information to the hundreds upon hundreds of scholars who have studied and discussed Genesis for hundreds upon hundreds of years. Let me ask a question: Have you ever even once read a single respected commentary on Genesis, or did you decide to ridicule it without burdening yourself (or anyone else) with the benefit of an informed opinion?

An "Aetheist" merely looking for a few answers about "Gensis"? Disingenuous rubbish!

Instead of ridiculing the OPer, why not actually inform him?

It is a common claim, to the point of majority religious opinion in my neck of the woods, that dinosaurs and humans coexisted. I would dare say questions in this regard are relevant for this site, if ultimately shown to be based on an incorrect read of a given religious text.

[Endlin]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis: ...

Golly gee, Endlin, I never thought of that. In fact, your insightful analysis must certainly constitute remarkably new information to the hundreds upon hundreds of scholars who have studied and discussed Genesis for hundreds upon hundreds of years. Let me ask a question: Have you ever even once read a single respected commentary on Genesis, or did you decide to ridicule it without burdening yourself (or anyone else) with the benefit of an informed opinion?

An "Aetheist" merely looking for a few answers about "Gensis"? Disingenuous rubbish!

Oh well, thanks for making me even less interested. I dont believe because of these cracks and these discrepencies, im just looking for proper answers and not one Christian can give me any. You all loop around it, or as you did, answer my question with a question.

Im seriously doubting the worth of christianity now, why would i want to be like you.

Im sorry i bothered.

[Endlin]

You know what, im pissed.

Forget my Dinosaur questions and answer this one very clear question....


Why would the creator of the universe (finite or infinite) sacrifice his own son, instead of just wiping Satan out.


You've got enough power/spirit/whatever to make the entire universe (Further than we can comprehend still to this day) but cant remove this Satan guy.

Now thats Rubbish!

[Jayhawker Soule]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis: ...

Golly gee, Endlin, I never thought of that. In fact, your insightful analysis must certainly constitute remarkably new information to the hundreds upon hundreds of scholars who have studied and discussed Genesis for hundreds upon hundreds of years. Let me ask a question: Have you ever even once read a single respected commentary on Genesis, or did you decide to ridicule it without burdening yourself (or anyone else) with the benefit of an informed opinion?

An "Aetheist" merely looking for a few answers about "Gensis"? Disingenuous rubbish!

Instead of ridiculing the OPer, why not actually inform him?

An extremely pretentious yet immature young man rudely went unannounced to the Zen Master's home. Barely concealing a smirk, he asked the Zen Master to show him the way to enlightenment.

"First," said the Master, "tea." He walked the young man into the tea room, knelt, and began the slow, studied process of preparing the tea. He then poured tea for the young man -- poured and poured until the tea spilled over onto the lacquered table and, eventually, onto the boys lap and the floor around him.

"What are you doing!" cried the boy, "Can't you see that the cup is full. It can't hold anymore."

"As are you," said the Zen Master quietly, "now please leave."

(Sorry. I know no Zen dinosaur creation stories, but I've always liked this one so I thought I'd share ...)

[JoeyKnothead]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis: ...

Golly gee, Endlin, I never thought of that. In fact, your insightful analysis must certainly constitute remarkably new information to the hundreds upon hundreds of scholars who have studied and discussed Genesis for hundreds upon hundreds of years. Let me ask a question: Have you ever even once read a single respected commentary on Genesis, or did you decide to ridicule it without burdening yourself (or anyone else) with the benefit of an informed opinion?

An "Aetheist" merely looking for a few answers about "Gensis"? Disingenuous rubbish!

Instead of ridiculing the OPer, why not actually inform him?

An extremely pretentious yet immature young man rudely went unannounced to the Zen Master's home. Barely concealing a smirk, he asked the Zen Master to show him the way to enlightenment.

"First," said the Master, "tea." He walked the young man into the tea room, knelt, and began the slow, studied process of preparing the tea. He then poured tea for the young man -- poured and poured until the tea spilled over onto the lacquered table and, eventually, onto the boys lap and the floor around him.

"What are you doing!" cried the boy, "Can't you see that the cup is full. It can't hold anymore."

"As are you," said the Zen Master quietly, "now please leave."

(Sorry. I know no Zen dinosaur creation stories, but I've always liked this one so I thought I'd share ...)

You still fail to answer the OP, and insinuate folks are "too full" of knowledge, or themselves, or whatever for you to answer the OP?

That's not debate, that's just goofy.

[Miles]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis:

God created everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Unfortunately he must have been looking the other way when his children took from Satan.

So Adam and Eve are now cast out of Eden and are left to populate the world.

What about everything on the inside of the Garden of Eden. At what point did contents of Eden spill over into the world. Animals are unaware of what religion is and therefore must be exempt from judgement so why are they not all still locked away in Gods garden?

Which brings me to Dinosaurs.....
1. Could you imagine how big Noah's ark would have had to of been to not only fit every living creature in female and male but also every species of Dinosaur!

2. If Dinosaurs were around just over two thousand years ago (As most christians believe to be the bibles age, and that it mentions dinosaurs) Do you not think theyre would be some proof in drawn pictures or a general panic written into the Bible as they would have been most likely the top of the food chain at the time.

3. I very much doubt the creator of the universe and everything in it would only allow us this one fragile little planet, and then flood it with Dinosaurs.

All that said i would like to ask one very conclusive question.

- If the Holy spirit/God/Creator of the universe can take absolute nothing and create what we see as the world today in entirity only using his imagination (..In Our Image...) Why can God not dispose of one evil angel (Satan) even though it was he who created everything?

As you are likely aware, there's a lot in the Bible that doesn't add up (many instances involving simple logic). And when such cases are brought to the attention of a believer most are either dismissed as irrelevant silliness or, if taken seriously, are seldom adequately answered.

Don't expect too much.

[Jayhawker Soule]

Hi everyone,

I am an Aetheist looking for a few answers. I am not attacking anyone as i believe some religions to be good, and can help change a person for the better. I am merely after a discussion on peoples opinions towards the begining of time and religion.

Lets start with Gensis:

God created everything in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Unfortunately he must have been looking the other way when his children took from Satan.

So Adam and Eve are now cast out of Eden and are left to populate the world.

What about everything on the inside of the Garden of Eden. At what point did contents of Eden spill over into the world. Animals are unaware of what religion is and therefore must be exempt from judgement so why are they not all still locked away in Gods garden?

Which brings me to Dinosaurs.....
1. Could you imagine how big Noah's ark would have had to of been to not only fit every living creature in female and male but also every species of Dinosaur!

2. If Dinosaurs were around just over two thousand years ago (As most christians believe to be the bibles age, and that it mentions dinosaurs) Do you not think theyre would be some proof in drawn pictures or a general panic written into the Bible as they would have been most likely the top of the food chain at the time.

3. I very much doubt the creator of the universe and everything in it would only allow us this one fragile little planet, and then flood it with Dinosaurs.

All that said i would like to ask one very conclusive question.

- If the Holy spirit/God/Creator of the universe can take absolute nothing and create what we see as the world today in entirity only using his imagination (..In Our Image...) Why can God not dispose of one evil angel (Satan) even though it was he who created everything?

As you are likely aware, there's a lot in the Bible that doesn't add up (many instances involving simple logic). And when such cases are brought to the attention of a believer most are either dismissed as irrelevant silliness or, if taken seriously, are seldom adequately answered.

Don't expect too much.

In fact I expect far less from you that I do from serious commentary from the likes of Sarna or Plaut - people I suspect you've never heard of (much less read).

[Miles]

As you are likely aware, there's a lot in the Bible that doesn't add up (many instances involving simple logic). And when such cases are brought to the attention of a believer most are either dismissed as irrelevant silliness or, if taken seriously, are seldom adequately answered.

Don't expect too much.

In fact I expect far less from you that I do from serious commentary from the likes of Sarna or Plaut - people I suspect you've never heard of (much less read).

Expect, don't expect. Do whatever butters your bread. (Where's a good shoulder-shrugging icon when you need it! )