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Hi everyone,
I have some very interesting readings by a certain Gerrard Winstanley, very hard to find, out of print, yet I don't know if they are still under copyright.
Can I discuss his writings here? Under what limitations?
Thanks..!

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ahigherway wrote:Hi everyone,
I have some very interesting readings by a certain Gerrard Winstanley, very hard to find, out of print, yet I don't know if they are still under copyright.
Can I discuss his writings here? Under what limitations?
Thanks..!

Blessings,
brian
Since he died in 1676, his writings are no longer copyrighted.

A google search has a couple of his readings online at http://www.marxists.org/reference/archi ... /index.htm
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:Hi everyone,
I have some very interesting readings by a certain Gerrard Winstanley, very hard to find, out of print, yet I don't know if they are still under copyright.
Can I discuss his writings here? Under what limitations?
Thanks..!

Blessings,
brian
Since he died in 1676, his writings are no longer copyrighted.

A google search has a couple of his readings online at http://www.marxists.org/reference/archi ... /index.htm
Are you absolutely sure?

The reason I ask is this:
Yes, his works were written around 1648-9. My grandfather gave me a book with some of his main spiritual works (not the ones on the site you mentioned). This book was a compliation done by, I think, Oxford Press, back in 1940's. Then reprinted by Russell & Russell in the 1960's. So are they still copyrighted?
Also, three eariler works of his I found only at the British Library, they photocopied for me, and told me that "they have the copyrights." Is this possible?

Thanks for clarifying. I'd LOVE to share his thoughts here!

Blessings,
brian

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As with using any source here, as long as you attribute the source, quoting any material is not a problem.

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ahigherway wrote:
Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:Hi everyone,
I have some very interesting readings by a certain Gerrard Winstanley, very hard to find, out of print, yet I don't know if they are still under copyright.
Can I discuss his writings here? Under what limitations?
Thanks..!

Blessings,
brian
Since he died in 1676, his writings are no longer copyrighted.

A google search has a couple of his readings online at http://www.marxists.org/reference/archi ... /index.htm
Are you absolutely sure?

The reason I ask is this:
Yes, his works were written around 1648-9. My grandfather gave me a book with some of his main spiritual works (not the ones on the site you mentioned). This book was a compliation done by, I think, Oxford Press, back in 1940's. Then reprinted by Russell & Russell in the 1960's. So are they still copyrighted?
Also, three eariler works of his I found only at the British Library, they photocopied for me, and told me that "they have the copyrights." Is this possible?

Thanks for clarifying. I'd LOVE to share his thoughts here!

Blessings,
brian
They might have the copyrights to the compilation and/or translation.. but british copyright laws and us copyright laws are different
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:
Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:Hi everyone,
I have some very interesting readings by a certain Gerrard Winstanley, very hard to find, out of print, yet I don't know if they are still under copyright.
Can I discuss his writings here? Under what limitations?
Thanks..!

Blessings,
brian
Since he died in 1676, his writings are no longer copyrighted.

A google search has a couple of his readings online at http://www.marxists.org/reference/archi ... /index.htm
Are you absolutely sure?

The reason I ask is this:
Yes, his works were written around 1648-9. My grandfather gave me a book with some of his main spiritual works (not the ones on the site you mentioned). This book was a compliation done by, I think, Oxford Press, back in 1940's. Then reprinted by Russell & Russell in the 1960's. So are they still copyrighted?
Also, three eariler works of his I found only at the British Library, they photocopied for me, and told me that "they have the copyrights." Is this possible?

Thanks for clarifying. I'd LOVE to share his thoughts here!

Blessings,
brian
They might have the copyrights to the compilation and/or translation.. but british copyright laws and us copyright laws are different
Hi goat!
So are you saying that, since I live in Italy, I should consult Italian copyright laws, which may permit me to post these writings without any problems, even if English/American laws are different?

Blessings,
brian

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ahigherway wrote:
Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:
Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:Hi everyone,
I have some very interesting readings by a certain Gerrard Winstanley, very hard to find, out of print, yet I don't know if they are still under copyright.
Can I discuss his writings here? Under what limitations?
Thanks..!

Blessings,
brian
Since he died in 1676, his writings are no longer copyrighted.

A google search has a couple of his readings online at http://www.marxists.org/reference/archi ... /index.htm
Are you absolutely sure?

The reason I ask is this:
Yes, his works were written around 1648-9. My grandfather gave me a book with some of his main spiritual works (not the ones on the site you mentioned). This book was a compliation done by, I think, Oxford Press, back in 1940's. Then reprinted by Russell & Russell in the 1960's. So are they still copyrighted?
Also, three eariler works of his I found only at the British Library, they photocopied for me, and told me that "they have the copyrights." Is this possible?

Thanks for clarifying. I'd LOVE to share his thoughts here!

Blessings,
brian
They might have the copyrights to the compilation and/or translation.. but british copyright laws and us copyright laws are different
Hi goat!
So are you saying that, since I live in Italy, I should consult Italian copyright laws, which may permit me to post these writings without any problems, even if English/American laws are different?

Blessings,
brian
Well, the server being used is based in the U.S... so I would think that U.S. laws would be the most important, since it is Ostenger that would potentially get snagged for copyright violations.

As long as you don't post the whole thing, but only subsections of it, and give proper citations, I don't see any problem.. the fair use laws are in force.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Ok. I'll give it a shot.
I won't be citing the whole book, since it is a compilation of short works. How much of one short work can be quoted?

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ahigherway wrote:Ok. I'll give it a shot.
I won't be citing the whole book, since it is a compilation of short works. How much of one short work can be quoted?

Blessings,
brian
The laws are vague.. but since I bet a lot of it is online, look and do a few paragaaphs and point to a source if possible.
“What do you think science is? There is nothing magical about science. It is simply a systematic way for carefully and thoroughly observing nature and using consistent logic to evaluate results. So which part of that exactly do you disagree with? Do you disagree with being thorough? Using careful observation? Being systematic? Or using consistent logic?�

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Goat wrote:
ahigherway wrote:Ok. I'll give it a shot.
I won't be citing the whole book, since it is a compilation of short works. How much of one short work can be quoted?

Blessings,
brian
The laws are vague.. but since I bet a lot of it is online, look and do a few paragaaphs and point to a source if possible.
Hi Goat,
Ok, I went to make a thread, but it tells me I must be a moderator. Now what?

Blessings,
brian

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