Harold Campings Failed Prediction

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Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

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Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

The blissfully ignorant will always exist. The only way to change them is to change the leaders they follow.

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

Definitely foolish. Wicked depending on what happens with all the money his little group gathered. Anyone know if he has skipped town yet and living on a private island somewhere?

[Goat]

Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

Foolish?? He made millions of dollars selling this message.
Wicked?? All those people who trusted him, sent money to them, and ruined their lives for him.

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Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

Did Camping state that his prediction was a prophecy given to him from God?

From what i have read. Camping made a prediction from his calculations. So strictly speaking Camping cannot be called a false prophet. Just a guy who made a calculation based on his understanding that failed.

I do hope the outcome will cause people to question and check what their preachers say. But sadly i think there are just too many people who want someone to just tell them what to do and when to do it.


All Praise The Ancient of Days

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Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

Did Camping state that his prediction was a prophecy given to him from God?

From what i have read. Camping made a prediction from his calculations. So strictly speaking Camping cannot be called a false prophet. Just a guy who made a calculation based on his understanding that failed.

I do hope the outcome will cause people to question and check what their preachers say. But sadly i think there are just too many people who want someone to just tell them what to do and when to do it.


All Praise The Ancient of Days

Agree... lazy people who wont read for themselves. I get it, bc I was once right there with them and thought I understood all I needed to bc of what I heard in sermons and what I thought I had "read" in the bible. I now know that simply reading certain passages, will definitely lead you in a direction especially when coupled with bible study class talk with a group of people who believe the same small section of the entire passage or verse or book etc.... group think. Group think can instill group illusion!

I say... read the bible, one book at a time, not one verse at a time... you have to get the context or everything is biased.

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Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

Did Camping state that his prediction was a prophecy given to him from God?

From what i have read. Camping made a prediction from his calculations. So strictly speaking Camping cannot be called a false prophet. Just a guy who made a calculation based on his understanding that failed.

I do hope the outcome will cause people to question and check what their preachers say. But sadly i think there are just too many people who want someone to just tell them what to do and when to do it.


All Praise The Ancient of Days

Agree... lazy people who wont read for themselves. I get it, bc I was once right there with them and thought I understood all I needed to bc of what I heard in sermons and what I thought I had "read" in the bible. I now know that simply reading certain passages, will definitely lead you in a direction especially when coupled with bible study class talk with a group of people who believe the same small section of the entire passage or verse or book etc.... group think. Group think can instill group illusion!

I say... read the bible, one book at a time, not one verse at a time... you have to get the context or everything is biased.

Agreed. I read the bible like that. Context is everything.

In fact the original Bible was just written as a selection of books to be read like books. The "verse" system was introduced a lot later.

Also as i have read the bible i see where Chapter confines seem to break into two different chapters what really should be one chapter. So it another reason to read the bible books not confining oneself to chapters and verses.


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PS: Just looked up on the net tring to find out when the verse system in the bible was introduced. I read that a french printer named Robert Stephens created the first versed Bible in 1551.

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Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

In fact, paradoxically, it seems to encourage such belief.

Consider, for example, that William Miller (1844) and Charles Russell (1914) both made failed predictions of the end of the world, and were more widely followed in their day than Camping.

Today, close to 25 million people belong to churches that trace their teachings back to these men, including the Seventh Day Adventists (to Miller) and Jehovah's Witnesses (to Russell, and indirectly Miller).

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

He strikes me as sincere, and so in that way foolish. Although he seems almost willfully naive about his role in all of this, taking no responsibility at all for the damage he has caused in the lives of those who followed him.

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Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

I do not see the connection between biblical literalism and Harold Camping making up things that are not in the Bible. He did not read "...May 21, 2011..." in the Bible. I believe the parts of the Bible (which are translated correctly) literally and knew from the first time that I heard Harold Camping's prediction that he was wrong.[/quote]

[Honibaz]

Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

I'd answer yes to the foolish part, but probably more self-deluded rather than wicked to the second. Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity - who knows, as there are always people who want to be on the "inside" with their "special knowledge" of what's going to happen next.

If you want a really good example of someone who merely insinuates these types of things, look no further than Chuck Missler. This guy is very careful to not come out and make declarative statements, but rather walks right up to the edge of making them, thus leaving the audience in a state of near-panic about what might take place. He did this personally in front of group I was a part of back in October of 1998, when talking about the upcoming Y2K crisis. While not telling people directly to sell their homes, buy cattle, ready-to-eat dehydrated meals, and ammunition for the upcoming doomsday...the clear insinuation was that if you were a "smart and discerning" person, you'd be ready to do these things in order to survive while everyone else was suffering through catastrophe. Of course, you could always go in the back of the foyer and buy one of his books on these fantastical subjects for $19.99 (perhaps I could pay for it with Ameros from soon-coming North American Union)

Will they begin to question their pastors harder?...Probably not, but I'm also betting that a majority of atheists and secular humanists wouldn't begin to question Richard Dawkins or anything written in a Dan Brown novel either.

Will it help people let go of Biblical literalism?...Probably not any more than a secularist letting go of the magical world of Darwinian evolution. Anyone up for a Piltdown Man?

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Harold Camping predicted the end of the world again and got it wrong again. He persuaded a lot of too eaily persuaded folk. Some spent their savings.

Will the failed prediction open the eyes of the gullible segments of Christianity. Will they begin to question their pastors harder? Will it help folk to let go of biblical literalism?

Is Camping just foolish or wicked or both?

Did Camping state that his prediction was a prophecy given to him from God?

From what i have read. Camping made a prediction from his calculations. So strictly speaking Camping cannot be called a false prophet. Just a guy who made a calculation based on his understanding that failed.

I do hope the outcome will cause people to question and check what their preachers say. But sadly i think there are just too many people who want someone to just tell them what to do and when to do it.


All Praise The Ancient of Days

it is my undertsanding that he has recalculated for sometime in October or November..the bible says that there would be false prophets and he is one in that he predicted a certain thing it doesn't have to be from God .since he used God words from the bible.... whenever someone makes a prediction like that you should run for the exits....

oh and by the way when Jonestown happened I was a newborn Christian and I had just finished reading the bible entirely for the first time.... so my judgment on those who fell with Jim Jones is that they should have read the bible.. but of course understand that some of them had read the bible ..it's just that they probably saw it their way...

It opened my eyes..to John 14, 15, & 16..and 17 too...
made me read my bible over and over again..especially the New T...
I saw many things that even to day are not mentioned in Churches things Jesus said which are not in the minds of Christians ......secrets..which would make you faith infallible...formidable in Christ....promises that are exceeding great as Peter says in chapter one verse four in either 1st or 2nd Peter...