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2 gay guys attempt persecution of Priest (of course)

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Two gay GWU students want priest removed from campus

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ed-campus/

Students and parishioners are rallying behind a Catholic priest at George Washington University after two gay students said they wanted him removed for supporting the church’s stance on homosexuality.

Seniors Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen want the Rev. Gregory Shaffer booted off campus because he taught that homosexual behavior is immoral. The pair has filed a formal complaint with the school’s administration and are holding a vigil outside the Newman Center, where Father Shaffer serves as a chaplain, until he is removed, Catholic News Agency reports.



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It all depends on what the priest has said and done regarding this issue. If all that he has done is to emphasize that the RC position is that Roman Catholics are prohibited from gay sex, abortion, birth control and divorce then I have no issue, for that is the truth. But if this priest is using his position as chaplain of a publicly funded university to proselytize then he has crossed the line. If he is attempting to spread intolerance on the basis of sexual orientation as part of his University duties, then he should not be working for a public institution.
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How can people that have not committed a crime be charged with a hate crime?

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99percentatheism wrote:
Two gay GWU students want priest removed from campus

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ed-campus/

Students and parishioners are rallying behind a Catholic priest at George Washington University after two gay students said they wanted him removed for supporting the church’s stance on homosexuality.

Seniors Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen want the Rev. Gregory Shaffer booted off campus because he taught that homosexual behavior is immoral. The pair has filed a formal complaint with the school’s administration and are holding a vigil outside the Newman Center, where Father Shaffer serves as a chaplain, until he is removed, Catholic News Agency reports.



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I'm curious: why did you use the words "of course" in the title?
Does it imply "of course gay guys would do this", "of course a priest would get this charge" or another reason?


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[Replying to post 2 by McCulloch]

You have been here a long time. There are obvious principles you should know about Christain life.

The very nature OF being a Christian is offering conversion as a matter of being. It is part and parcel of what it is to be a Christian.

There is no such "law" of seperation of Church and State. It is an urban legend that has grown into a factoid because very influential people can be just as ignorant and overbearing as the most debased and uneducated among us.

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99percentatheism wrote: There is no such "law" of separation of Church and State. It is an urban legend that has grown into a factoid because very influential people can be just as ignorant and overbearing as the most debased and uneducated among us.
Would you include Thomas Jefferson, who first used the expression wall of separation between church and state as being one of those influential, ignorant and overbearing people? Jefferson wrote, "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

Jefferson's metaphor of a wall of separation has been cited repeatedly by the influential, ignorant and overbearing U.S. Supreme Court Justices: Chief Justice Morrison Waite; Justice Stephen Johnson Field; Justice Hugo Black and Justice Wiley Rutledge. Some factoid!
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Apples and oranges. :confused2: Will you clarify your "oil and water" one liner?

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99percentatheism wrote:
Two gay GWU students want priest removed from campus

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ed-campus/

Students and parishioners are rallying behind a Catholic priest at George Washington University after two gay students said they wanted him removed for supporting the church’s stance on homosexuality.

Seniors Damian Legacy and Blake Bergen want the Rev. Gregory Shaffer booted off campus because he taught that homosexual behavior is immoral. The pair has filed a formal complaint with the school’s administration and are holding a vigil outside the Newman Center, where Father Shaffer serves as a chaplain, until he is removed, Catholic News Agency reports.



Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... z2PvOQNThX
Will the secular world rally to the defense of the Christian?

Will you?
I don't understand your question. It's really a joke, right? It's really a remark meant in sarcasm, right? It's really not serious, right?

If a sober and truthful answer is welcome, then it ought to be obvious to the most jaded person that the secular world doesn't give a twit about church leadership or persecution of any sort. In fact, the secular world welcomes it, since the church is viewed generally as a social speed bump.

The real question that should be asked is whether the church cares about persecution. It doesn't.

If this were a muslim leader there would be demonstrations and rumors of violence if not violence indeed. You know it. I know it. The church doesn't care. Period.

Not so much as a whisper of disapproval has been raised in the public media by Christians about this. The local community of all denominations ought to speak loudly and long about it. There is no such thing as separation of church and state when state sanctioned persecution raises it's ugly head against innocent Christians.

You get the government you deserve and by our disdain for public outcry Christians get the society they deserve. In the end judgment will come and because Christians have not raised a finger to oppose its' wickedness we shall all be caught up in divine wrath.

May God have mercy upon us.

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