I can think of a number of reasons:
- curiosity
- overwhelming desire to convert the converted
- intellectual challenge
- seeking TRUTH™
- Learn what they believe and how it is defended
- other
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I'm a HUGE ex-fundamentalist now turned huge atheist. I can PM you about my, say, conversion.Galphanore wrote:Exactly, I'd like to know if there are any ex-fundamentalists. If there are any here, I think it'd be a good idea to have a thread dedicated to talking to them about their....conversion?Cephus wrote:I usually don't run into a lot of ex-hardcore fundamentalists turned atheist though, most people who have rejected religion usually weren't the big time Bible bangers, they were more liberal in their theology. I'm probably one of the more stringent ex-Christians around and I was really a strong believer, but when it came down to religion against reality, reality won hands down.McCulloch wrote:The existence of people in this group should give us all hope. Some of us used to be zealots.
You have to remember, we're talking about people who, when religion comes into conflict with reality, religion always wins.
I might have to disagree with you here Occams. I have followed yours and McCulloch posts pretty closely. I came here to be enlightened. To find some peace in some sort of conclusion and to be stimulated into confirming my beliefs. While I am nowhere close to competition to you, QED, McCulloch, and a few others in the realm of philosophy, I am learning just by following the debates you all present. So yes, you can and do enlighten some. And while you may not be able to change anyones mind, you might just be able to clarify their thinking and open up new avenues for their minds to consider.OccamsRazor wrote:I have often thought about why I am here, especially when I know that I can never enlighten anyone nor change anyone's mind. I often think that there are a couple of reasons:
1. I enjoy debating metaphysics very much. I studied Physics and the Philosophy of Science and have always enjoyed the subject.
2. I always like people to challenge my own ideas. Maybe people feel that they may not radically change my view but I feel that my own personal view is really chrystallised by having to answer difficult questions.
I wonder how many people here (i.e. in the A-room), do it, rightly or wrongly, because they enjoy p***ing theists off. I think that there is always a little schadenfreude involved in really upsetting someone by challenging their beliefs.
Imitrex works better.Furrowed Brow wrote:My Brow Furrows when I read bad arguments and I have an obsessive compulsion to put things right before I get a tension headache.
Furrowed Brow wrote:My Brow Furrows when I read bad arguments and I have an obsessive compulsion to put things right before I get a tension headache.
From MAGNUM - Migraine Awareness Group: a National Understanding for MigraineursConfused wrote:Imitrex works better.
Unless FB is a Migraineur, Imitrex will not help his tension headaches.IMITREX® (sumatriptan succinate) is an abortive medication used for the treatment of Migraine attacks in adults. IMITREX® is the oldest of the new 'Tripans' Migraine wonder drugs.
This is a highly effective acute treatment, which appeared in 1993, which will work with efficiency for most Migraineurs, and has very few side effects.
IMITREX® Tablets are the original drawing board up anti-migraine medicine. It's chemical name is sumatriptan succinate, created specifically for Migraine disease.
Imitrex can help with tension headache due to it's vasodilating effects. Not a labeled use, nor is it usually used for them, but can get much quicker relief. Not to mention many people who suffer from migraines usually live a highly stressful life and stress can induce tension headaches which can be precursor for migraines, just a the halo effect is a precursor.McCulloch wrote:Furrowed Brow wrote:My Brow Furrows when I read bad arguments and I have an obsessive compulsion to put things right before I get a tension headache.From MAGNUM - Migraine Awareness Group: a National Understanding for MigraineursConfused wrote:Imitrex works better.Unless FB is a Migraineur, Imitrex will not help his tension headaches.IMITREX® (sumatriptan succinate) is an abortive medication used for the treatment of Migraine attacks in adults. IMITREX® is the oldest of the new 'Tripans' Migraine wonder drugs.
This is a highly effective acute treatment, which appeared in 1993, which will work with efficiency for most Migraineurs, and has very few side effects.
IMITREX® Tablets are the original drawing board up anti-migraine medicine. It's chemical name is sumatriptan succinate, created specifically for Migraine disease.
You kill me. Halo effect is when someone who suffers from migraines starts to see a halo shaped light image before the onset of a migraine. Though it could also be associated with tumors. I think in your case it is sleep deprivation or momentary lapses in reality LOL....Cathar1950 wrote:I read all the time so you guys are all I have to talk to about what interests me.
Also I have experienced just about everything Christians can experience and know just enough to know something is wrong with their reading of Hebrew scriptures and their claim to truth and reality including their NT writings.
But what is this halo effect?
I see them all the time around lights and sometimes objects.
Do I have a brain tumour?
It is good to have a medical staff. I see them all the time and sometimes they are rainbows. But they don't talk to me or anything like that. Usually around light but sometimes around other things most likely refections of light. But I don't have migraines (that I know of) and I love to nap. You might have something on the reality thing.Confused wrote:You kill me. Halo effect is when someone who suffers from migraines starts to see a halo shaped light image before the onset of a migraine. Though it could also be associated with tumors. I think in your case it is sleep deprivation or momentary lapses in reality LOL....Cathar1950 wrote:I read all the time so you guys are all I have to talk to about what interests me.
Also I have experienced just about everything Christians can experience and know just enough to know something is wrong with their reading of Hebrew scriptures and their claim to truth and reality including their NT writings.
But what is this halo effect?
I see them all the time around lights and sometimes objects.
Do I have a brain tumour?