The God of Glory spoke creation into existence

[B Bob]

Thesis: The author of the Bible an d the One telling the story of creation is the God of Eternity, and He He permanently and eternally abides in a temple made without hands, and from His own temple, He spoke creation into existence by lifting up His voice of and from His own bodily form; Jesus Christ


Firstly, ALL scripture is authored by God. All writers wrote the scripture under or through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Therefore, if the Bible says it, God said it. If God said it, it is true whether we believe it or not.

Jesus said to the seventy : "he who heareth you, hearethh me." This was and is Jesus' attitude toward all of the scripture. Another example is found in John 5:45-47. Jesus said to the Jews who were persecuting Him "But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe My words? IOW's if you don't believe what God has said, then how can you believe what I am saying, I speak the words of God, because I am not only the son of man, but I AM also God.
All scripture are truly words spoken by God. Whenever the scriptures are quoted, God is the One that is heard.

Matt 22:31-32
But regarding the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God: 32I AM THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, AND THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB? He (God) is not the God of the dead but of the living.


Job 3:23: Job sought the temple or tabernacle of God (fixed place where God resides), but could not find it, for it had not been revealed to him.

John 2:19-22: Jesus said He (His bodily form) was the temple of God. The temple made without hands.

Col 1:19: Jesus was eternally purposed to be the permanent and fixed dwelling of ALL the fullness of God

Col 2:9: Jesus is the permanent and eternal dwelling of ALL the fullness of God in bodily form (the resurrection and ascended Christ is the Glory of God that Moses saw the hinder parts of. Moses wrote about Him).

1 Cor 15:20-28, 27-28:P This is the depiction and description of who God is, in the end. God the Father subjected all things to the son of man (excepting Himself). After all His works were finished, the son, subjects himself in bodily form to God the Father, so God could be the ALL in ALL. This is the picture of who the God of eternity is. This is the God of the eternal day of creation; the true Sabbath day of God. The day that never ends.

Mark 2:27-28: For the above stated reason, this explains what Jesus meant when He said "man was not made for the Sabbath, but the Sabbath was made for man, therefore, the son of man, is Lord of the Sabbath.

Now, here is the thing: The author of the Bible and the One telling the story of His creation, is the eternal God depicted and described through the invisible thread of the Scriptures (I quoted enough to connect the dots, but many more scriptures lead to the same place because the Scriptures testify about the Glory of God: Jesus Christ).

Therefore, the Bible is written and God has spoken from His eternal place in Heaven. However, we still exist in the fullness of time of God's works. Even though He finished them before the foundation of the world.

If God finished His works before He made man (He did), then He spoke creation into existence from his place in eternity (He did), which is depicted in 1 Cor 15:20-28, 27-28 (it is, God eternally dwells in bodily form of the son of man, Jesus Christ).

We should now understand why Col 1:16-17 says all things were created by Him and through Him (God spoke creation by the voice and through the bodily form of Jesus Christ). God spoke creation into existence and the One who lifted up His voice is the One who is the ALL in ALL depicted in 1 Cor 15:27-28; All the fullness of God, eternally dwelling in the bodily form of His own Glory; Jesus Christ.

This means the voice that was heard at Jesus' baptism of John's baptism into repentance and at the transfiguration, came from God, the ALL in ALL. Why or how? Even before the foundation of the world, God finished all His works, therefore God is the God as depicted and described in 1 Cor 15:20-28, 27-28) that spoke creation into existence. He is also the only God that has ever spoken to man about who He is. He eternally abides in the bodily form of His own Glory; Jesus Christ.

This is the God of eternity and this is the only God that has ever spoken!

[Talishi]

Thesis: The author of the Bible an d the One telling the story of creation is the God of Eternity, and He He permanently and eternally abides in a temple made without hands, and from His own temple, He spoke creation into existence by lifting up His voice of and from His own bodily form; Jesus Christ

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

In the beginning, everything that God created, including human beings, was very good. That means Satan was very good. That means Adam and Eve were very good. That means the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was very good. So how come God warned Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, lest they die?

[Peds nurse]

Thesis: The author of the Bible an d the One telling the story of creation is the God of Eternity, and He He permanently and eternally abides in a temple made without hands, and from His own temple, He spoke creation into existence by lifting up His voice of and from His own bodily form; Jesus Christ

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

In the beginning, everything that God created, including human beings, was very good. That means Satan was very good. That means Adam and Eve were very good. That means the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was very good. So how come God warned Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, lest they die?

Hey Talishi!

There is a difference between what God created to be good, and the choice to do good. The tree, is the only thing in your above post, that has no will to do good or bad, it is a tree. So, the tree was good, but represented the choice that man has to make, to do good or not to do good.

[marco]

Thesis: The author of the Bible and the One telling the story of creation is the God of Eternity, and He permanently and eternally abides in a temple made without hands, and from His own temple, He spoke creation into existence by lifting up His voice of and from His own bodily form; Jesus Christ

What's the point of saying He eternally resides in a Temple made without hands. A temple is a place of worship. Whom is God worshipping in his temple? He may, for all you know, live on an icicle or in a fire. Inventing temples for God to live in invisibly doesn't add truth; it obscures it.
. Do these guesses matter?

You suggest that the Bible is inerrant; but there are inconsistencies. People find ways round these inconsistencies or contradictions to extract truth. God didn't dictate the Bible though he may well have penned the Koran.

[Talishi]

There is a difference between what God created to be good, and the choice to do good. The tree, is the only thing in your above post, that has no will to do good or bad, it is a tree. So, the tree was good, but represented the choice that man has to make, to do good or not to do good.

Why would eating fruit from the tree not be good, if everything God created, including the tree, was good? I suspect that God simply created an artificial distinction, declaring by divine fiat, after creation, that the tree was "evil". There was no objective evil. In which case, the original sin consists of not playing along with God's game.

[B Bob]

[Replying to post 4 by marco]

Read the scriptures. The physical body of Jesus is where all the fullness of God permanently abides.

If you don't believe the Bible was authored by God, fine, but I do. Therefore, my thesis is based on the word of God. Whether you believe it is trues or not is irrelevant to the truth. If God said it, it is true.

[B Bob]

Thesis: The author of the Bible an d the One telling the story of creation is the God of Eternity, and He He permanently and eternally abides in a temple made without hands, and from His own temple, He spoke creation into existence by lifting up His voice of and from His own bodily form; Jesus Christ

Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

In the beginning, everything that God created, including human beings, was very good. That means Satan was very good. That means Adam and Eve were very good. That means the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was very good. So how come God warned Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, lest they die?

Good question. The Garden of Eden is a "type and shadow" of heaven. The tree represents the Knowledge" of sin already existed in heaven. Meaning, Lucifer and a third of the angels sinned against God prior to God placing Adam in the Garden. I am not saying sin existed in heaven, i am saying the knowledge of sin existed because sin had already corrupted the creation of God. This is the reason the current earth and heavens will be destroyed and Go will make a new earth and heaven that no longer has the knowledge of sin because it will be forgotten, nor even come to mind (Isa 65:17).

Therefore, since sin already came into existence and the knowledge of it was known in heaven, god warned them not to eat from the tree of this knowledge

[Talishi]

The tree represents the Knowledge" of sin already existed in heaven. Meaning, Lucifer and a third of the angels sinned against God prior to God placing Adam in the Garden. I am not saying sin existed in heaven, i am saying the knowledge of sin existed because sin had already corrupted the creation of God.

That is a rather quick escalation, if God created Heaven on day One, and Adam and Eve on Day Six. That means the angels had about five days to rebel before the Tree could be planted to represent the knowledge of their rebellion. I wonder what God did or said to hack the angels off so soon.

[B Bob]

[Replying to post 8 by Talishi]

A creation day is not a 24 hour day. In fact, we are still living in the sixth day of creation.

[JehovahsWitness]

In the beginning, everything that God created, including human beings, was very good. That means Satan was very good.

This implies God created "satan", an interpretation that Jehovah's Witnesses do not hold to. While everything God created was indeed good, the Jehovah's Witness view is that God only created perfect angels with the capacity of free will.

JW