Scripture often refers to dead people as having "fallen asleep", or being in a state of "sleep".
What do you do with such and similar expressions?
Do they merely convey a euphemism, or do they have the effect of conveying a specific truth about what death is, as you see it?
Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #2[Replying to post 1 by Checkpoint]
It's a metaphor to help people understand that for God, death is as temporary as sleep. God will resurrect those that are presently dead, death will prove no more permanent than a long sleep. Those that yearn to be with and hold those that they have lost in death will welcome them back to life.
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I wrote about this earlier
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 213#832213
It's a metaphor to help people understand that for God, death is as temporary as sleep. God will resurrect those that are presently dead, death will prove no more permanent than a long sleep. Those that yearn to be with and hold those that they have lost in death will welcome them back to life.
The Resurrection: Soon a Reality
https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/VODBible/pu ... 05_5_VIDEO
I wrote about this earlier
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 213#832213
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #3It indicates that human death is temporary.Checkpoint wrote: Scripture often refers to dead people as having "fallen asleep", or being in a state of "sleep".
What do you do with such and similar expressions?
Do they merely convey a euphemism, or do they have the effect of conveying a specific truth about what death is, as you see it?
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #4What would you say is the nature of that temporary "sleep"?ttruscott wrote:It indicates that human death is temporary.Checkpoint wrote: Scripture often refers to dead people as having "fallen asleep", or being in a state of "sleep".
What do you do with such and similar expressions?
Do they merely convey a euphemism, or do they have the effect of conveying a specific truth about what death is, as you see it?
To be followed by what, do you think?
Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #5[Replying to post 2 by JehovahsWitness] Why does your organization continue to cultivate an aura of imminent fulfillment while their track record is so poor? I imagine that lovely type of reunion is only made possible through your organization?
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #6No, if you are referring to the bible hope of a resurrection, that is made possible through the ransom sacrifice of our Lord Jesus Christ. We (Jehovah's Witnesses) believe Jesus died so that people will have the opportunity to live forever. Those that have already died will, thanks to that sacrifice be bought back to earth to live eternally on it but it paradise conditions with their loved ones.postroad wrote: I imagine that lovely type of reunion is only made possible through your organization?
Many yearn to see a beloved child that died of cancer, a precious husband or wife killed in a car accident, to hold their brother, sister, mother or friend in their arms again. That hope is assured, through the shed blood of Jesus and the undeserved kindness of his Father, Jehovah God.
Hope that clarifies who made this possible,
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #7[Replying to post 6 by JehovahsWitness] You are a well trained in the art of deflection. Every denomination incorporates Jesus at some level. Is salvation as your video presents available through all denominations as long as the lowest common denominator the name "Jesus" is acknowledged?
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #8No, eternal life is not provided throuth any denomination, it is only through the life sacrifice of Jesus Christ. God will offer any that accept that ransom eternal life. That said, only one religion will teach the truth about what that ransom is and why it was necessary, that religion is Jehovah's Witnesses.postroad wrote: [Replying to post 6 by JehovahsWitness] Every denomination incorporates Jesus at some level. Is salvation as your video presents available through all denominations as long as the lowest common denominator the name "Jesus" is acknowledged?
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #9Your post confirms that you do see Jehovah's Witnesses as the only religion that teaches the truth about the ransom that enables eternal life and salvation.JehovahsWitness wrote:No, eternal life is not provided throuth any denomination, it is only through the life sacrifice of Jesus Christ. God will offer any that accept that ransom eternal life. That said, only one religion will teach the truth about what that ransom is and why it was necessary, that religion is Jehovah's Witnesses.postroad wrote: [Replying to post 6 by JehovahsWitness] Every denomination incorporates Jesus at some level. Is salvation as your video presents available through all denominations as long as the lowest common denominator the name "Jesus" is acknowledged?
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Re: Death in the Bible is described as a sleep.
Post #10[Replying to post 8 by JehovahsWitness]
Deflected again. Why must everything be so complicated? Is correct belief essential to salvation? Is correct belief demonstrated in multiple denominations?
Deflected again. Why must everything be so complicated? Is correct belief essential to salvation? Is correct belief demonstrated in multiple denominations?